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I agree. I think China is a amazing country and the people there would be fun to be around. The government however ruins it for everyone, and we don't help the issue when we give them such a trade deficit. It is too bad China is going to own everything our kids do.
Why only America? The olympics are a world event.. why not "Grow some balls world"???
I don't give a shit about the rest of the world. If they boycott... great. America needs to. It's the right thing for America to do. I can't say for the rest of the world. I'm sure it's the right thing to do. However, I live in America, and I feel fucking dirty about it.
The olympics are in China to
a - get close to Korea
b - promote democracy
That is my opinion.
It is a shame that the Olympics, which are supposed to celibate/promote unity, are being held in a country that wishes to segregate itself.
Then again, it is a shame that the Olympics is supposed to be a spotlight for amature athletes. It is nice to see the best of the best play, but disappointing at the same time.
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Boycotting the Olympics doesn't do shit. It just punishes the athletes. China could give a fuck if we don't show up.
Exactly what I was thinking. It is not like China was a good, just, democratic country when they were awarded the olympics, and the government just changed its policies recently. If other countries wanted to take a stand they should have done it back then when the olympic city was being decided on. To boycott now is just a usless publicity stunt and only hurts the athletes who have been training.
What should be done, as responsible individuals, is to boycott the medias who will try to make money of this event. Just don't watch these games, let them play in complete indifference. If enough people do that maybe medias and governments (who generally take decisions hand in hand) will understand that some principles are not for sale.
The countries that offered the games to china already knew who they were at that time, so boycotting won't come from them. But make this a money loosing event and maybe the point will come accross.
What should be done, as responsible individuals, is to boycott the medias who will try to make money of this event. Just don't watch these games, let them play in complete indifference. If enough people do that maybe medias and governments (who generally take decisions hand in hand) will understand that some principles are not for sale.
The countries that offered the games to china already knew who they were at that time, so boycotting won't come from them. But make this a money loosing event and maybe the point will come accross.
The thing is, only a very few amount of people still care about the olympics anyway especially for watching it on TV... I'd wager that whoever has the TV deal is losing a hell of a lot of money on it and would rather not have it.
They'll promo the hell out of it, but I doubt it comes back with numbers that even partially make back the money spent broadcasting them and that's without dumpy China being involved. They could have them in Utopia and still not crack decent numbers at this point.
As dirty and corrupt as the IOC is.... it's really kind of appropriate they are happening in China isn't it?
What better place to have this glossy over hyped overly corrupted event than have great athletes running in toxic air and the bottoms of the shells melting in the horrid river pollutants...
The idea of the olympics is this pure thing, the reality is that nothing could be further from the truth. It's like 1950's Americana.
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The olympics are in China to
a - get close to Korea
b - promote democracy
That is my opinion.
It is a shame that the Olympics, which are supposed to celibate/promote unity, are being held in a country that wishes to segregate itself.
If the Olympics are supposed to be "celibate," why do they give the athletes condoms???
What do you mean "get close to Korea"???
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After leaving Afgan the States had the stones to boycott to protest Russia taking up their slack. Now we have the States and friends back in Afgan and there is talk of a boycott again. Now I have seen it all.
Did the world in general think that China was going to get it's house in shape when the were granted the olympics? ha ha ha
After leaving Afgan the States had the stones to boycott to protest Russia taking up their slack. Now we have the States and friends back in Afgan and there is talk of a boycott again. Now I have seen it all.
Did the world in general think that China was going to get it's house in shape when the were granted the olympics? ha ha ha
We were in Afghanistan before the Soviets invaded???? When??? I remember reading about the unsuccessful British invasions of Afghanistan....but the U.S.???
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
I agree, wholeheartedly, tho it will prolly never happen, unfortunately. But I'd like to see individual athletes put their IDEALS (YES! i DO believe in those!!) before their personal interests and refuse to participate. I know it's a long shot, but I can dream.
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We were in Afghanistan before the Soviets invaded???? When??? I remember reading about the unsuccessful British invasions of Afghanistan....but the U.S.???
Sorry Ty. CIA involvement to suck the Russians in. Same thing in my eyes. Meddling is meddling now.
I agree, wholeheartedly, tho it will prolly never happen, unfortunately. But I'd like to see individual athletes put their IDEALS (YES! i DO believe in those!!) before their personal interests and refuse to participate. I know it's a long shot, but I can dream.
To boycott now seems pointless and kind of hypocritical. Beijing was awarded the Olympics back in 2001, so if other countries didn't approve of their government why didn't they stop them from getting the Olympics in the first place? It is not like China didn't control Tibet back then. To boycott now just makes the athletes carry the weight for something the IOC didn't have the guts to do 7 years ago (which seems entirely unfair to them).
To boycott now seems pointless and kind of hypocritical. Beijing was awarded the Olympics back in 2001, so if other countries didn't approve of their government why didn't they stop them from getting the Olympics in the first place? It is not like China didn't control Tibet back then. To boycott now just makes the athletes carry the weight for something the IOC didn't have the guts to do 7 years ago (which seems entirely unfair to them).
totally agree. and for most of these athletes, its their life goal, the culmination of years of training. and they only have one shot, two olympics if you're lucky, and only the few have three chances. china should never have been awarded the olympics and no one had the stones to deny them that years ago. even a chump like spielberg couldnt deny china's request when he signed on to "direct" the 2008 games. only now, because its "cool" in hollywood circles to protest darfur, did he withdraw. withdrawing is the right thing, but his ignorance was really exposed when he signed up in the beginning.
I don't give a shit about the rest of the world. If they boycott... great. America needs to. It's the right thing for America to do. I can't say for the rest of the world. I'm sure it's the right thing to do. However, I live in America, and I feel fucking dirty about it.
While I agree China does some pretty crappy stuff....they are slowly but surely becoming westernized. The more interactions we have with they're government but more importantly with China's people the better and the sooner we can all just get over ourselves. Same reason going into Iraq and bombing the shit out of them just put us back couple generations.
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I don't give a shit about the rest of the world. If they boycott... great. America needs to. It's the right thing for America to do. I can't say for the rest of the world. I'm sure it's the right thing to do. However, I live in America, and I feel fucking dirty about it.
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a - get close to Korea
b - promote democracy
That is my opinion.
It is a shame that the Olympics, which are supposed to celibate/promote unity, are being held in a country that wishes to segregate itself.
Then again, it is a shame that the Olympics is supposed to be a spotlight for amature athletes. It is nice to see the best of the best play, but disappointing at the same time.
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
But what will I buy at Dollar World if China stops shipping shit here in response.
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Exactly. What's the point of boycotting?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Exactly what I was thinking. It is not like China was a good, just, democratic country when they were awarded the olympics, and the government just changed its policies recently. If other countries wanted to take a stand they should have done it back then when the olympic city was being decided on. To boycott now is just a usless publicity stunt and only hurts the athletes who have been training.
The countries that offered the games to china already knew who they were at that time, so boycotting won't come from them. But make this a money loosing event and maybe the point will come accross.
The thing is, only a very few amount of people still care about the olympics anyway especially for watching it on TV... I'd wager that whoever has the TV deal is losing a hell of a lot of money on it and would rather not have it.
They'll promo the hell out of it, but I doubt it comes back with numbers that even partially make back the money spent broadcasting them and that's without dumpy China being involved. They could have them in Utopia and still not crack decent numbers at this point.
As dirty and corrupt as the IOC is.... it's really kind of appropriate they are happening in China isn't it?
What better place to have this glossy over hyped overly corrupted event than have great athletes running in toxic air and the bottoms of the shells melting in the horrid river pollutants...
The idea of the olympics is this pure thing, the reality is that nothing could be further from the truth. It's like 1950's Americana.
well. their baby girls need somewhere to go.
can i get a rimshot?
cross the river to the eastside
What do you mean "get close to Korea"???
Did the world in general think that China was going to get it's house in shape when the were granted the olympics? ha ha ha
I agree, wholeheartedly, tho it will prolly never happen, unfortunately. But I'd like to see individual athletes put their IDEALS (YES! i DO believe in those!!) before their personal interests and refuse to participate. I know it's a long shot, but I can dream.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Sorry Ty. CIA involvement to suck the Russians in. Same thing in my eyes.
We must not stand for the illegal occupation of....
oh crap.
Boycott the USA!!!
To boycott now seems pointless and kind of hypocritical. Beijing was awarded the Olympics back in 2001, so if other countries didn't approve of their government why didn't they stop them from getting the Olympics in the first place? It is not like China didn't control Tibet back then. To boycott now just makes the athletes carry the weight for something the IOC didn't have the guts to do 7 years ago (which seems entirely unfair to them).
totally agree. and for most of these athletes, its their life goal, the culmination of years of training. and they only have one shot, two olympics if you're lucky, and only the few have three chances. china should never have been awarded the olympics and no one had the stones to deny them that years ago. even a chump like spielberg couldnt deny china's request when he signed on to "direct" the 2008 games. only now, because its "cool" in hollywood circles to protest darfur, did he withdraw. withdrawing is the right thing, but his ignorance was really exposed when he signed up in the beginning.
why would they boycott it??
Agreed. Fucking pansy athletes and musicians. Don't stand up to fucking no one.
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