Will Obama REALLY have all troops out withing 16 months??

eekamouse

If he is elected President, do you REALLY think Obama has the power/hutzpa/whatever to pull the majority of troops out of Iraq?

Don't quote me shit. Search your heart.

I say fuck no, and I may even vote for him anyway.

How's that for tension?

lazymoon13

I doubt it.

Abookamongstthemany

I say no and fuck no, I won't vote for him.

Abookamongstthemany

Maybe everyone will come to this realization and we can all quit bullshitting about him being this anti-war candidate. That would be nice....especially if the media ever reported it like it really is.

eekamouse

Omg I Agree With You Two...

Abookamongstthemany

eekamouse wrote:

Omg I Agree With You Two...

Do we disgree often? I wasn't aware.

anotherclone

I think he actually said in an interview on 60 Minutes, that he will remove troops as the situation warrants once he is privvy to information that he doesn't have now.

In other words, who the hell really knows. I'm saying this as an Obama supporter.

RockinInCanada

Man the lies that people will say to get elected....just another presidential red herring comment.

As an aside I am really not interested at all about this American election...maybe I have problems deciphering between candidate 'A' and 'B'.

lazymoon13

I said I doubt it, but I do believe he will begin to move troops out faster then bush or mccain.

Abookamongstthemany

One of his advisors was interviewed saying the 16 month estimate is a 'best case scenario'. And since when does anything work out for the best case scenario in our gov't? Their biggest cop outs include the words 'unforeseen', 'not expected', 'emergency'....

he still stands

No.

But Kucinich would have.

He would have also had us out of the WTO and NAFTA by that time.

Plus pot would be legal.

Kucinich 2012!!!

Abookamongstthemany

he still stands wrote:

No.

But Kucinich would have.

He would have also had us out of the WTO and NAFTA by that time.

Plus pot would be legal.

Kucinich 2012!!!

Hell yeah!!!

RockinInCanada

he still stands wrote:

No.

But Kucinich would have.

He would have also had us out of the WTO and NAFTA by that time.

Plus pot would be legal.

Kucinich 2012!!!

Pot being legal is not good.....for the reason the government would control supply and punish private "growers" and pad their coffers through excesive tax on it.

However decriminalization is another topic that should be looked at.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

lazymoon13 wrote:

I said I doubt it, but I do believe he will begin to move troops out faster then bush or mccain.

Hey...your nickname is something a girl would pick... you're a girl right?

my2hands

some folks have convinced themselves Obama is a war monger :rolleyes:

DriftingByTheStorm

In 16 months America will be deeper in to some sort of all out shitstorm war (think WWIII) than it has EVER been.

The market is about to plunge.
If it doesn't it will ONLY be because the Fed has thrown SO much money at it that the dollar ends up collapsing.

Either way inflation is running 15-20% per YEAR and going UP ...

Oil will start costing us $125 then $150 then $200 a barrell ...
at which point "something" is going to "happen" and "someone" will get "blamed" ... and then ... Rat-a-tat-tat ... KaBLAM!
The US goes apeshit beserker against the entire Muslim world ...
The Russians take sides. The Chinese take sides.
Western Europe probably pussies out, and the Israelis put their fingers mighty close to all their red buttons.

Just wait.
Its going to uravel nice and slow, just like our economy,
but rest assured, America ain't going down without a fight.
They are gonna make it one hell of a grand finale.

So,
i guess to answer your question.
Uh no ... the troops will be "reassigned", but they sure as fuck ain't coming home. That is, unless the plan gets twisted, and we no longer pick a foreign enemy to blame ... and they just bring the guns home to aim at us!

What, you're tired of paying $10 for a loaf of bread?
Suck rifle barrell and march off to the FEMA camp, motherfucker!

DriftingByTheStorm

my2hands wrote:

some folks have convinced themselves Obama is a war monger :rolleyes:

and some folks are wise enough to know that Obama is a fucking puppet stooge just like every other goddamn president in the last 30-50 years (or more).

The guy will do what the MIC and TPTB want.
If the troops get pulled, it will only be because the plan is changing.
But you can't possibly believe they are coming home any time this decade.
Can you?


Oh. And if he is NOT a stooge ... then my guess would be the plan is to get Hillary on as VP, and then "take care" of old Obama. Yeah. I wouldn't rule that one out either. Oh no, the president has been shot! Oh no! No fear, Hillary is here!
:cool:

my2hands

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

In 16 months America will be deeper in to some sort of all out shitstorm war (think WWIII) than it has EVER been.

The market is about to plunge.
If it doesn't it will ONLY be because the Fed has thrown SO much money at it that the dollar ends up collapsing.

Either way inflation is running 15-20% per YEAR and going UP ...

Oil will start costing us $125 then $150 then $200 a barrell ...
at which point "something" is going to "happen" and "someone" will get "blamed" ... and then ... Rat-a-tat-tat ... KaBLAM!
The US goes apeshit beserker against the entire Muslim world ...
The Russians take sides. The Chinese take sides.
Western Europe probably pussies out, and the Israelis put their fingers mighty close to all their red buttons.

Just wait.
Its going to uravel nice and slow, just like our economy,
but rest assured, America ain't going down without a fight.
They are gonna make it one hell of a grand finale.

So,
i guess to answer your question.
Uh no ... the troops will be "reassigned", but they sure as fuck ain't coming home. That is, unless the plan gets twisted, and we no longer pick a foreign enemy to blame ... and they just bring the guns home to aim at us!

What, you're tired of paying $10 for a loaf of bread?
Suck rifle barrell and march off to the FEMA camp, motherfucker!

you really need to stop watching alex jones clips and consiracy docs online... seriously man, good god

my2hands

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

But you can't possibly believe they are coming home any time this decade.
Can you?

yes i do believe that... even nixon had to end an unpopluar war

DriftingByTheStorm

my2hands wrote:

yes i do believe that... even nixon had to end an unpopluar war

The Vietnam War "failed" because it was a localized war. "Vietnam".
Though it did a hell of a job of redistributing the wealth of the people back to the MIC and the bankers.

The "War On Terror" will not end if\when troops leave Iraq.

And comparing the passive unpopularity (yeah, answering "no" to a "do you support this 'war" on a survey don't count as active reistance) of this "war" to the massive and constant physical protest of Vietnam is just silly.

If they could hold out that long in the face of such vocal and persistent ORGANIZED reistance to a localized war ... they sure as hell aren't stopping this GLOBAL war, just because 90% of the masses press "2" on their telephone in a response to a survey.

BTW, even your overtly-liberal neo-con hating friends find agreement with Alex Jones on some of his major tenants. Take Naomi Wolf, an extreme liberal, who has written a book about the 10 Steps Towards Fascism. Hell, she was on the Alex Jones show a few months back rabidly agreeing with him ... and basicaly acknowledging that we are headed straight for a police state ... ALL TEN SIGNS PRESENT!

So???

RolandTD20Kdrummer

The draft scenario plays into it as well. This war machine that we got now is going privatized all the way. If nobody volunteers, they'll suck it out of the unborn generations and funnel it into self run companies that the can play stock with insider style, and do it all with even greater profit.