Life!

mdigenakis

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Um... Wow.

pro-choice, pro-death penalty. Consistency, i guess.

mdigenakis

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

What would you think of your mother had she murdered, I mean, aborted you?

its harder when its someone you love. like maybe a future brother or sister. i don't know. i can't convince you and i shouldn't try. it's hard.

hippiemom

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

What would you think of your mother had she murdered, I mean, aborted you?

I'm guessing he wouldn't think anything of it at all, since he wouldn't be here.

ThumbingMyWay32

mdigenakis wrote:

pro-choice, pro-death penalty. Consistency, i guess.

The sentenced have a choice? I'm having a hard time digesting that. Break it down for me. I'm open-minded.

ThumbingMyWay32

hippiemom wrote:

I'm guessing he wouldn't think anything of it at all, since he wouldn't be here.

He'd have a hard time selling his original post to his mother I'm guessing.

ThumbingMyWay32

mdigenakis wrote:

its harder when its someone you love. like maybe a future brother or sister. i don't know. i can't convince you and i shouldn't try. it's hard.

No, the hardest part is expressing your opinions in the manner in which you have them laid out in your mind. That goes for anyone. I understand that.

mdigenakis

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

The sentenced have a choice? I'm having a hard time digesting that. Break it down for me. I'm open-minded.

i would rather abortion be legal, because if it wasn't....well....we've heard the stories. i'm glad my mom is still alive.

ThumbingMyWay32

mdigenakis wrote:

i would rather abortion be legal, because if it wasn't....well....we've heard the stories. i'm glad my mom is still alive.

To me, ending life in the womb is just as tragic as "those stories." Adoption is a very simple solution in this case. There are plenty of folks willing to take the slack for the "mistakes" people sometimes make. I guess this all goes back to family, in a way, looking at it through this perspective. We as a society are one big family. Being as passionate about life as you seem to be, being pro-choice dumbfounds someone like me.

mdigenakis

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

To me, ending life in the womb is just as tragic as "those stories." Adoption is a very simple solution in this case. There are plenty of folks willing to take the slack for the "mistakes" people sometimes make. I guess this all goes back to family, in a way, looking at it through this perspective. We as a society are one big family. Being as passionate about life as you seem to be, being pro-choice dumbfounds someone like me.

ok. i can't argue because their is nothing to argue about.

lucylespian

surferdude wrote:

You gotta love an advocate for life with this mentality.

Yeah, I saw that and wondered too. Like......... "I love life enough to kill anyone who threatens it ", almost as good as teh thread picking on Ed over spelling , witht the spelling errors in it.

BUt really, I'm sitting her on Friday afternoon, goofing off as usual, and wondering WTF this htread is about really. Was a family member murdered, is this an anti-abortion thread............, what tell me ??

mdigenakis

lucylespian wrote:

Yeah, I saw that and wondered too. Like......... "I love life enough to kill anyone who threatens it ", almost as good as teh thread picking on Ed over spelling , witht the spelling errors in it.

stop dwelling on this. its a simple statement of justice. if someone killed a person close to you what would you demand? so why not feel for the millions killed everyday for no other purpose than the indirect financial gain of others. do you not feel for them?

ThumbingMyWay32

mdigenakis wrote:

stop dwelling on this. its a simple statement of justice. if someone killed a person close to you what would you demand? so why not feel for the millions killed everyday for no other purpose than the indirect financial gain of others. do you not feel for them?

If I were you, I would demand life imprisonment. Or, some sort of rehabilitation.

lucylespian

OK, that's why I asked, what is this thrad really about, cos i'm not getting it.

TBH , I don't dwell on every injustice in this world. Humans have been turds to each other since the dawn of time, yet at the same time managed to invent "humanity" or humane thinking. I think our societies have generally less violence in them than at any time in the past, even though there is still too much. I can't fix that, so I just do teh best I can with my tiny part of teh world every day. If I dwell on bad stuff too much, I get depressed and that doesn't help me or anyone.

mdigenakis

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

If I were you, I would demand life imprisonment. Or, some sort of rehabilitation.

i wouldn't i'm sorry. it's something i feel very strongly about. if its an "accident" scenario then i agree with you whole heartedly, but whoever has the arrogance to take life away with their own malicious intent/ desire in mind, then they must not have any more days.

War is a different story all together. its kill or be killed in war, so i can't even get into that. our troops could speak for themselves. just felt i had to mention that because i foresaw(if thats even a word, let alone the spelling) this coming into the discussion soon.

ThumbingMyWay32

lucylespian wrote:

OK, that's why I asked, what is this thrad really about, cos i'm not getting it.

TBH , I don't dwell on every injustice in this world. Humans have been turds to each other since the dawn of time, yet at the same time managed to invent "humanity" or humane thinking. I think our societies have generally less violence in them than at any time in the past, even though there is still too much. I can't fix that, so I just do teh best I can with my tiny part of teh world every day. If I dwell on bad stuff too much, I get depressed and that doesn't help me or anyone.

Which makes mdig's sig even more baffling. But, I do generally agree with your point.

ThumbingMyWay32

mdigenakis wrote:

i wouldn't i'm sorry. it's something i feel very strongly about. if its an "accident" scenario then i agree with you whole heartedly, but whoever has the arrogance to take life away with their own malicious intent/ desire in mind, then they must not have any more days.

War is a different story all together. its kill or be killed in war, so i can't even get into that. our troops could speak for themselves. just felt i had to mention that because i foresaw(if thats even a word, let alone the spelling) this coming into the discussion soon.

I understand what you're trying to say. I'm a staunch conservative with no religious affiliations, at all. That's hard for most people here to understand. We all have our peculiarities

mdigenakis

lucylespian wrote:

OK, that's why I asked, what is this thrad really about, cos i'm not getting it.

TBH , I don't dwell on every injustice in this world. Humans have been turds to each other since the dawn of time, yet at the same time managed to invent "humanity" or humane thinking. I think our societies have generally less violence in them than at any time in the past, even though there is still too much. I can't fix that, so I just do teh best I can with my tiny part of teh world every day. If I dwell on bad stuff too much, I get depressed and that doesn't help me or anyone.

it was in response to the many 6 to 7 figure number of deaths worldwide that seemed to be a mere after thought to a few people on this thread. it's not very coherent opinion i gave. its filled with hypocrisy and irony that many dwelled on. i do dwell on some of the injustice in the world, i try not because it gets me down. it was a sort of "love your fellow man (and woman), but don't screw them for your betterment" thread.

"Well I guess
There's nothing wrong with what you say
But don't sell me,
'There can't be better ways"

lucylespian

mdigenakis wrote:

it was in response to the many 6 to 7 figure number of deaths worldwide that seemed to be a mere after thought to a few people on this thread. it's not very coherent opinion i gave. its filled with hypocrisy and irony that many dwelled on. i do dwell on some of the injustice in the world, i try not because it gets me down. it was a sort of "love your fellow man (and woman), but don't screw them for your betterment" thread.

"Well I guess
There's nothing wrong with what you say
But don't sell me,
'There can't be better ways"

I guess we all do the best we can, but are not really empowered to alter what you are referring to. I'm not sure which 6-7 figure deaths you are talking about.
Mind you, there is no winning here. Let's say fro example you are talking about starvation in Africa. If we interfere,that is Western Imperialism, if we don't, we are heartless selfish bastards.
If we are talking natural disasters, well, apparently they are "Gods will" or "Acts of God", so you are either gonna have to talk to him or some of his subscibers, but I'm a devout athiest, so I'll pass on that one.
War, well thta is a big business there are plenty of reasons for it and people out there who profit from it and foster it, but I doubt any are here on this board.
Most of the kids here are very idealistic and keen for social justice in a way that I was very much myself before I became a bit worn down by life.
The Moving Train attracts a lot of impassioned and informed thought and apathy is not a notable characteristic of this turf. So no-one is suggesting they have all the answers to everything, so what ??

You are still not really being very clear about what your point is, but hey, that's OK too !!!!!!!!!

mdigenakis

"Well I guess
There's nothing wrong with what you say
But don't sell me,
'There can't be better ways"

ThumbingMyWay32

lucylespian wrote:

I guess we all do the best we can, but are not really empowered to alter what you are referring to. I'm not sure which 6-7 figure deaths you are talking about.
Mind you, there is no winning here. Let's say fro example you are talking about starvation in Africa. If we interfere,that is Western Imperialism, if we don't, we are heartless selfish bastards.
If we are talking natural disasters, well, apparently they are "Gods will" or "Acts of God", so you are either gonna have to talk to him or some of his subscibers, but I'm a devout athiest, so I'll pass on that one.
War, well thta is a big business there are plenty of reasons for it and people out there who profit from it and foster it, but I doubt any are here on this board.
Most of the kids here are very idealistic and keen for social justice in a way that I was very much myself before I became a bit worn down by life.
The Moving Train attracts a lot of impassioned and informed thought and apathy is not a notable characteristic of this turf. So no-one is suggesting they have all the answers to everything, so what ??

You are still not really being very clear about what your point is, but hey, that's OK too !!!!!!!!!

I believe you meant Americans... Not God.