We are not addicted to oil.

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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Jim Colyer wrote:
    *** We need to exhaust all options. We need to conserve, make optimum use of our resources. *** We need an ongoing effort to develop alternative fuels for the future.


    i agree with these two statements, particularly the conservation and the development of alternative fuel sources.

    mammasan wrote:
    The public school does but my son goes to private school and they do not provide bus service.


    really? wow. on long island, school districts MUST provide bus service to all students, even those who attend private schools. you still pay your school taxes, your child is a student, that's a shame.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    i agree with these two statements, particularly the conservation and the development of alternative fuel sources.





    really? wow. on long island, school districts MUST provide bus service to all students, even those who attend private schools. you still pay your school taxes, your child is a student, that's a shame.

    It's not that big of a deal. His school is on my way to work so I just drop him off.
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Cosmo wrote:
    We're SUPPOSED to leave the place better than the way we found it... like the way your parents did for you. We are looking to be the first generation to scuttle the place for our kids to clean up.
    I think it could be easily arguedthat every generation since the industrial revolution has left a bigger mess for the next generation. Whether it be institutional fiscal mismanagement and debt, arms build up, unsustainable government programs or the environment.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    surferdude wrote:
    I think it could be easily arguedthat every generation since the industrial revolution has left a bigger mess for the next generation. Whether it be institutional fiscal mismanagement and debt, arms build up, unsustainable government programs or the environment.

    how can anyone argue against this?
  • audome25audome25 Posts: 163
    You need to get off your fat ass and walk somewhere. Or ride a bike. Or campaign for some form of public transport if your town lacks such.


    ok so I will campaign for it and it will appear. awesome. i live in the liberal utopia of seattle, I'll be dead before they get their heads out of their asses.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    mammasan wrote:
    It's not that big of a deal. His school is on my way to work so I just drop him off.

    for you it may not be...but nonetheless, i think it is to a degree. even just discussing our fuel usage, makes sense to provide bus service..and sure, as a taxpayer too. i just assumed all areas were the same in that sense. wow. do they not provide textbooks either? or what about extra special services? our public schools provide busing, all textbooks for private students and also whatever 'special needs' support a student may need/use if not available within the private school.

    sorry, didn't mean to go off topic...obviously, this just surprises me.


    anyway, i think ASLL of this is a very big issue. if we have learned nothing else, we should at least realize depending on a finite source for energy is foolhardy at best....and eventually, someone down the line will be forced to find a better solution, so why not now? i think it would truly make a HUGE difference.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    People have been around for nearly 1 million years. What did people do before cars a hundred years ago? Some 999,900 years with no car. 100 years with cars.. hmmm.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    People have been around for nearly 1 million years. What did people do before cars a hundred years ago?


    so you want to go back to horse and buggy? that'll make for a helluva long commute. :p unless you want to completely change what our society has become, and good luck with that....makes much more sense to focus on REAL solutions, such as alternative fuel sources.

    just caught your edit........um........990,000 years ago humanity didn't have jobs that they showed up for, certainly didn't travel anywhere near as much, or as often as we do now, etc. unless you are promoting we return to being hunters/gathers, etc...why not focus on what we CAN do, right now? the industrial revolution has come and gone, with it's good and bad...unless you want to somehow change all that seems silly to even focus on such.
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  • Jam-fanJam-fan Posts: 70
    we're not addicted to oil, but the lifestyle... duh, those were my two year old cousin's first words. until we can reform this ultra-convenient lifestyle there isn't much hope for a more environmentally friendly way of life until all the oil has been depleted. That may take a long long while, and when that day comes, the damage will have been done. The real problem is that the culture we have immersed ourselves in is resistant to change. There is no way that change is gonna come unless we all make a conscious effort to do so. Just listen to "undone" and you'll understand.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Jam-fan wrote:
    we're not addicted to oil, but the lifestyle... duh, those were my two year old cousin's first words. until we can reform this ultra-convenient lifestyle there isn't much hope for a more environmentally friendly way of life until all the oil has been depleted. That may take a long long while, and when that day comes, the damage will have been done. The real problem is that the culture we have immersed ourselves in is resistant to change. There is no way that change is gonna come unless we all make a conscious effort to do so. Just listen to "undone" and you'll understand.


    do you really think it's feasible/doable, to truly change the lifestyle though? i agree, changes definitely should/can be made...but to such a degree, that i don't know. i think it is possible, at the very least, to have the lifestyle, or a similar, yet altered lifestyle...and find alternative, environmentally-friendly ways to support the lifestyle. i think it's incremental changes all the way around, and that will be most acceptable, easier to accomplish, and still very positive results. i REALLY would LOVE to see a renewable/sustainable alternate fuel source in my lifetime. i want to be driving my car on corn power before i die. :D
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