Israel's ethnic Cleansing campaign picks up speed
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And the killing continues (with full U.S support)...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0812/S00588.htm
Israeli forces kill resident of Ni’lin at protest
Monday, 29 December 2008, 10:35 am
Press Release: International Solidarity Movement
'Israeli forces kill resident of Ni’lin and leave another in critical condition during demonstration of solidarity with Gaza
Israeli forces have killed one Palestinian man from Ni’lin, while another is in critical condition, as they opened fire on a demonstration against the Israeli massacre of the people of Gaza.
Arafat Rateb Khawaje, 22 years old, was shot in the back with live ammunition, he died at 2:45pm in Ramallah Hospital.
Mohammed Kasim Khawaje, 20 years old, was shot in the forehead with live ammunition from close range. He remains in critical condition in Ramallah hospital.
Mohammed Sror was shot in the leg with live ammunition, but his injuries are not critical.
Israeli activist Jonathan Polack said that;
“Fifteen Palestinian youths were protesting when five soldiers, who were 15 metres away opened fire with live ammunition straight at the group of protesters. They shot one protester in the back, one in the forehead and one in the leg”
Ibrahim Amira, member of the Popular Committee in Ni’lin said;
“The Occupation is going to turn Ni’lin into a ghetto as it has turned Gaza into a ghetto. And the same way that a massacre is taking place in Gaza against those resisting the siege, a massacre is now taking place in Ni’lin against those resisting the Aparthied Wall”
Arafat Khawaje is now the third resident of Ni’lin to be killed by Israeli soldiers during demonstrations against the construction of the Apartheid Wall on Nil’in’s land.
On the 29th July 2008, ten year old Ahmed Mousa was shot through the forehead with live ammunition, killing him instantly. The following day Yousef Amira was shot twice from close range with rubber-coated steel bullets leaving him brain-dead. He died a week later on 4th August 2008.
Lina Escobar, a Spanish citizen who witnessed the attack, stated;
“By agreeing to upgrade relations with Israel the European Union is rewarding Israel for it’s policies of mass murder in Lebanon and Palestine. It makes it complicit in the murder of the youth of Ni’lin for protesting their village being turned into a prison by the Apartheid Wall”
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0812/S00588.htm
Israeli forces kill resident of Ni’lin at protest
Monday, 29 December 2008, 10:35 am
Press Release: International Solidarity Movement
'Israeli forces kill resident of Ni’lin and leave another in critical condition during demonstration of solidarity with Gaza
Israeli forces have killed one Palestinian man from Ni’lin, while another is in critical condition, as they opened fire on a demonstration against the Israeli massacre of the people of Gaza.
Arafat Rateb Khawaje, 22 years old, was shot in the back with live ammunition, he died at 2:45pm in Ramallah Hospital.
Mohammed Kasim Khawaje, 20 years old, was shot in the forehead with live ammunition from close range. He remains in critical condition in Ramallah hospital.
Mohammed Sror was shot in the leg with live ammunition, but his injuries are not critical.
Israeli activist Jonathan Polack said that;
“Fifteen Palestinian youths were protesting when five soldiers, who were 15 metres away opened fire with live ammunition straight at the group of protesters. They shot one protester in the back, one in the forehead and one in the leg”
Ibrahim Amira, member of the Popular Committee in Ni’lin said;
“The Occupation is going to turn Ni’lin into a ghetto as it has turned Gaza into a ghetto. And the same way that a massacre is taking place in Gaza against those resisting the siege, a massacre is now taking place in Ni’lin against those resisting the Aparthied Wall”
Arafat Khawaje is now the third resident of Ni’lin to be killed by Israeli soldiers during demonstrations against the construction of the Apartheid Wall on Nil’in’s land.
On the 29th July 2008, ten year old Ahmed Mousa was shot through the forehead with live ammunition, killing him instantly. The following day Yousef Amira was shot twice from close range with rubber-coated steel bullets leaving him brain-dead. He died a week later on 4th August 2008.
Lina Escobar, a Spanish citizen who witnessed the attack, stated;
“By agreeing to upgrade relations with Israel the European Union is rewarding Israel for it’s policies of mass murder in Lebanon and Palestine. It makes it complicit in the murder of the youth of Ni’lin for protesting their village being turned into a prison by the Apartheid Wall”
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FUCK ISRAEL0
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ethnic cleansing, not even close, hope they destroy hamas0
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Israel hitting key targets all right. like schools.
The UN gave the Israeli government the coordinates to this school, to prevent them from bombing it. they bombed it anyway.
Strike on Gaza school 'kills 40'
15:21 GMT, Tuesday, 6 January 2009
'At least 40 people have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a United Nations-run school in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian medical sources have said.
A number of children were among those who died when the al-Falluj school in the Jabaliya refugee camp took a direct hit, doctors at nearby hospitals said.
People inside had been taking refuge from the Israeli ground offensive.
Earlier, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) warned of a "full-blown humanitarian crisis" in Gaza.
Speaking on the 11th day of the Israeli assault, a senior ICRC official, Pierre Kraehenbuhl, said life in Gaza had become intolerable.
Palestinian medical sources say up to 600 people have been killed since the attacks began, and Mr Kraehenbuhl said much more needed to be done to protect civilians.
At least 70 Palestinians were killed on Tuesday, while four Israeli soldiers were killed by fire from one of their own tanks.
Israel had the invasion plans drawn up 6 months ago, about the time the ceasefire was signed-according to a prominent Israeli newspaper. seems they were waiting for an opportunity to invade. So convenient a few rockets hit some pavement in Israeli occupied territory. there is no proof Hamas is responsible for the rocket attacks.
You know Palestinians were forced to grind up dog food and put it in bread so they had something to eat? you know they are fenced in on all sides? Israel is basically bombing a concentration camp.0 -
does hamas hide behind women and children?
does hamas hide behind militarily insignificant installations?live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.0 -
Commy wrote:Israel hitting key targets all right. like schools.
The UN gave the Israeli government the coordinates to this school, to prevent them from bombing it. they bombed it anyway.
Strike on Gaza school 'kills 40'
15:21 GMT, Tuesday, 6 January 2009
'At least 40 people have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a United Nations-run school in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian medical sources have said.
A number of children were among those who died when the al-Falluj school in the Jabaliya refugee camp took a direct hit, doctors at nearby hospitals said.
People inside had been taking refuge from the Israeli ground offensive.
Earlier, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) warned of a "full-blown humanitarian crisis" in Gaza.
Speaking on the 11th day of the Israeli assault, a senior ICRC official, Pierre Kraehenbuhl, said life in Gaza had become intolerable.
Palestinian medical sources say up to 600 people have been killed since the attacks began, and Mr Kraehenbuhl said much more needed to be done to protect civilians.
At least 70 Palestinians were killed on Tuesday, while four Israeli soldiers were killed by fire from one of their own tanks.
Israel had the invasion plans drawn up 6 months ago, about the time the ceasefire was signed-according to a prominent Israeli newspaper. seems they were waiting for an opportunity to invade. So convenient a few rockets hit some pavement in Israeli occupied territory. there is no proof Hamas is responsible for the rocket attacks.
You know Palestinians were forced to grind up dog food and put it in bread so they had something to eat? you know they are fenced in on all sides? Israel is basically bombing a concentration camp.
Reminds you of how the Israelis purposely bombed several UN targets during the invasion of Lebanon. State-sponsored terrorism at its best.0 -
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FUCK ISRAEL! Hell ya...screw the whole middle east. Turn that sand pit into a great big glass factory. Then we can finally control all their oil. Robotic oil drilling so I can keep driving my HEMI! HOO RAA0
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RM291946 wrote:Commy wrote:Israel hitting key targets all right. like schools.
The UN gave the Israeli government the coordinates to this school, to prevent them from bombing it. they bombed it anyway.
Strike on Gaza school 'kills 40'
15:21 GMT, Tuesday, 6 January 2009
'At least 40 people have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a United Nations-run school in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian medical sources have said.
A number of children were among those who died when the al-Falluj school in the Jabaliya refugee camp took a direct hit, doctors at nearby hospitals said.
People inside had been taking refuge from the Israeli ground offensive.
Earlier, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) warned of a "full-blown humanitarian crisis" in Gaza.
Speaking on the 11th day of the Israeli assault, a senior ICRC official, Pierre Kraehenbuhl, said life in Gaza had become intolerable.
Palestinian medical sources say up to 600 people have been killed since the attacks began, and Mr Kraehenbuhl said much more needed to be done to protect civilians.
At least 70 Palestinians were killed on Tuesday, while four Israeli soldiers were killed by fire from one of their own tanks.
Israel had the invasion plans drawn up 6 months ago, about the time the ceasefire was signed-according to a prominent Israeli newspaper. seems they were waiting for an opportunity to invade. So convenient a few rockets hit some pavement in Israeli occupied territory. there is no proof Hamas is responsible for the rocket attacks.
You know Palestinians were forced to grind up dog food and put it in bread so they had something to eat? you know they are fenced in on all sides? Israel is basically bombing a concentration camp.
of those 40, 6 were children, playing there where they were not supposed to be at that time. I am not condoning it by any means, but it was, at the time, a military target. A school taken over by Hamas militants.
I don't take anything from the UN seriously cos they are a bunch of screw ups, something that is common knowledge worldwide. But in this case in particular, the UN cannot be trusted cos the UN can't have the common sense to choose an ambassador that is neither Israeli or Palestinian. He is Palestinian and biased and has told a number of outright lies, showing he is incapable of judging the situation fairly and accurately- case in point: 2 days after attacks started, both sides had stated 200, and some odd, palestinians had been killed and almost all were Hamas officers. The Ambassador shot his mouth off about how horrid Israel is and Jews are terrible, and they have killed more than 2000, and most were civilians. He exaggerates greatly and tells lies to make the Hamas look like brave freedom fighters.
Life in Gaza is intolerable. Not enough food and medicine has been getting in. I agree, I'm not making excuses for Israel. I also think they should allow those in need of medical attention to get out.
I'm just saying, know who you are getting info from so you can figure how legit it may be, and don't make it a black and white issue. Both do wrong, but Israel is the only one getting a finger pointed at them. Did you miss what I wrote about Hamas leaders going into hiding just before the strike?
They are both to blame.
you're missing something very important. Calling a school pro-hamas does not make it a military target. bombing schools is a violation of international law. laws that were set up to prevent things like the holocaust, and shit like apartheid.. that's why the UN exists, to prevent terrible shit like that from ever happening again. I agree that the UN is innefectual, but that is in large part due to US actions. The US leads the world in security council vetos since the 70's. they even vetoed a resolution calling on all states to obey international law.
And to where I get my information from. I get as much information as I can on a subject and make up my own mind. nearly every story on mainstream media-cbc, nbc, fox abc cnn-every story is about how Israel is retaliating for rocket attacks. that's not the story here. if Israel is trying to prevent future rocket attacks why are they bombing schools and hospitals? why are they killing innocent people including women and children? seriously...do you think bombing innocent women and children is going to put the Palestinians in their place somehow? that they will be punished and stop? I think the opposite is going to happen. Israel is guaranteeing 50 years of violence with this assault . when you make non violent protest impossible you make violent protest inevitable.
they know this. that alone tells us their motives not to prevent future rocket attacks-there actions are guaranteeing future rocket attacks. and suicide bombings and so on.
and Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of the Palestinian people. sure, they allegedly fired some rockets at Israel, but have you seen the damage of those bottle rockets? the civilian toll,-terrible don't get me wrong, is almost insignificant when compared to the destruction caused by the Israeli military. Palestinian casualties compared to ISraeli isn't even close.
the level of violence is significant...and Israel is clearly violating international law. bombing a fenced in desperate people with nothing to lose. how is that going to prevent future violence?0 -
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 30046.html
Robert Fisk: Why do they hate the West so much, we will ask
So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in "purity of arms". But why should we be surprised?
Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead – almost all civilians, most of them children and women – in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians?
What is amazing is that so many Western leaders, so many presidents and prime ministers and, I fear, so many editors and journalists, bought the old lie; that Israelis take such great care to avoid civilian casualties. "Israel makes every possible effort to avoid civilian casualties," yet another Israeli ambassador said only hours before the Gaza massacre. And every president and prime minister who repeated this mendacity as an excuse to avoid a ceasefire has the blood of last night's butchery on their hands. Had George Bush had the courage to demand an immediate ceasefire 48 hours earlier, those 40 civilians, the old and the women and children, would be alive.
What happened was not just shameful. It was a disgrace. Would war crime be too strong a description? For that is what we would call this atrocity if it had been committed by Hamas. So a war crime, I'm afraid, it was. After covering so many mass murders by the armies of the Middle East – by Syrian troops, by Iraqi troops, by Iranian troops, by Israeli troops – I suppose cynicism should be my reaction. But Israel claims it is fighting our war against "international terror". The Israelis claim they are fighting in Gaza for us, for our Western ideals, for our security, for our safety, by our standards. And so we are also complicit in the savagery now being visited upon Gaza.
I've reported the excuses the Israeli army has served up in the past for these outrages. Since they may well be reheated in the coming hours, here are some of them: that the Palestinians killed their own refugees, that the Palestinians dug up bodies from cemeteries and planted them in the ruins, that ultimately the Palestinians are to blame because they supported an armed faction, or because armed Palestinians deliberately used the innocent refugees as cover.
The Sabra and Chatila massacre was committed by Israel's right-wing Lebanese Phalangist allies while Israeli troops, as Israel's own commission of inquiry revealed, watched for 48 hours and did nothing. When Israel was blamed, Menachem Begin's government accused the world of a blood libel. After Israeli artillery had fired shells into the UN base at Qana in 1996, the Israelis claimed that Hizbollah gunmen were also sheltering in the base. It was a lie. The more than 1,000 dead of 2006 – a war started when Hizbollah captured two Israeli soldiers on the border – were simply dismissed as the responsibility of the Hizbollah. Israel claimed the bodies of children killed in a second Qana massacre may have been taken from a graveyard. It was another lie. The Marwahin massacre was never excused. The people of the village were ordered to flee, obeyed Israeli orders and were then attacked by an Israeli gunship. The refugees took their children and stood them around the truck in which they were travelling so that Israeli pilots would see they were innocents. Then the Israeli helicopter mowed them down at close range. Only two survived, by playing dead. Israel didn't even apologise.
Twelve years earlier, another Israeli helicopter attacked an ambulance carrying civilians from a neighbouring village – again after they were ordered to leave by Israel – and killed three children and two women. The Israelis claimed that a Hizbollah fighter was in the ambulance. It was untrue. I covered all these atrocities, I investigated them all, talked to the survivors. So did a number of my colleagues. Our fate, of course, was that most slanderous of libels: we were accused of being anti-Semitic.
And I write the following without the slightest doubt: we'll hear all these scandalous fabrications again. We'll have the Hamas-to-blame lie – heaven knows, there is enough to blame them for without adding this crime – and we may well have the bodies-from-the-cemetery lie and we'll almost certainly have the Hamas-was-in-the-UN-school lie and we will very definitely have the anti-Semitism lie. And our leaders will huff and puff and remind the world that Hamas originally broke the ceasefire. It didn't. Israel broke it, first on 4 November when its bombardment killed six Palestinians in Gaza and again on 17 November when another bombardment killed four more Palestinians.
Yes, Israelis deserve security. Twenty Israelis dead in 10 years around Gaza is a grim figure indeed. But 600 Palestinians dead in just over a week, thousands over the years since 1948 – when the Israeli massacre at Deir Yassin helped to kick-start the flight of Palestinians from that part of Palestine that was to become Israel – is on a quite different scale. This recalls not a normal Middle East bloodletting but an atrocity on the level of the Balkan wars of the 1990s. And of course, when an Arab bestirs himself with unrestrained fury and takes out his incendiary, blind anger on the West, we will say it has nothing to do with us. Why do they hate us, we will ask? But let us not say we do not know the answer.0 -
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RM291946 wrote:Hamas were holed up hiding in it...speaking of hiding behind children.
UN is doing a crap job of preventing apartheid and the like.
Over the past few years Hamas militants have murdered 1100 Israeli's and more than 4000 Palestinians (admittedly..they are proud of how many Jews they have killed, but it was also information provided by the CIA). Now that Israel has finally gotten fed up enough to say screw you to the worthless UN who do nothing but apologise for Hamas, the militants are sinking further into the more populated areas, placing innocent people between them and Israeli troops.
What Israel did in Lebanon is despicable, but this time around....
Well we supposedly democratically elected Bush, didn't mean we shoulda kept him..And what about Castro and saddam..etc
Just cos they were elected doesn't mean they will keep their promises, and/or should be allowed to stay in power. Hamas have killed thousand's of their own, stolen the donated money from the civilians that was <i>supposed</i> to be for building up Gaza, and killed hundreds of Jews..Even the Palestinian leadership in West Bank hates them..
I mean..when even Palestinians hate Hamas, why do you keep defending them.
Thank-you...
Whether or not you support Israel's a ctions(fully, partially or not at all), there is no defense for Hamas. None.
Very interesting how the message pit was very relatively quiet in 2007 during the Hamas-Fatah civil war, when atrocities were being committed...0 -
RM291946 wrote:Hamas were holed up hiding in it...speaking of hiding behind children.
UN is doing a crap job of preventing apartheid and the like.
Over the past few years Hamas militants have murdered 1100 Israeli's and more than 4000 Palestinians (admittedly..they are proud of how many Jews they have killed, but it was also information provided by the CIA). Now that Israel has finally gotten fed up enough to say screw you to the worthless UN who do nothing but apologise for Hamas, the militants are sinking further into the more populated areas, placing innocent people between them and Israeli troops.
What Israel did in Lebanon is despicable, but this time around....
Well we supposedly democratically elected Bush, didn't mean we shoulda kept him..And what about Castro and saddam..etc
Just cos they were elected doesn't mean they will keep their promises, and/or should be allowed to stay in power. Hamas have killed thousand's of their own, stolen the donated money from the civilians that was <i>supposed</i> to be for building up Gaza, and killed hundreds of Jews..Even the Palestinian leadership in West Bank hates them..
I mean..when even Palestinians hate Hamas, why do you keep defending them.
I'm not defending Hamas...their policies are not perfect...BUT their policies are preferable to those of Israel or the US. Hamas has agreed to a long term truce if the 1967 borders were to be recognized, that's more than can be said of either the US or Israel. Israel is demanding Hamas recognize Israel's right to exist without even considering for a second that Palestine has that same right. Hamas, given a chance, would pursue peace, as they've said-Israel hasn't even agreed to the same.
The only reason you think Hamas is a terrorist organization is because the US and Israel have labeled them as such. They are no different than any group, well their level of violence is far less than that of Israel's, they don't have as much money for infrastructure or things like that-but they are simply trying to survive in a concentration camp, which is what Israel has turned Gaza and the West Bank into.
Israel is far more violent, and I can prove that statement.0 -
Commy wrote:First of all, its irrelevent if Hamas is hiding in schools or hospitals...calling a hospital pro hamas does not make it a military target. There is no excuse for bombing hospitals and schools-NONE. and that's exactly what Israel is doing.
Good post. I agree that it is irrelevant whether or not Hamas is inside the schools but it is also irrelevant to be discussing this since there were no fighters there in the first place. The UN has stated this and as the Israelis did with Lebanon they will come up with bullshit to excuse their butchery.
UN: No fighters in targeted school
The head of the UN agency in Gaza running the school that was attacked by Israel forces has rejected claims that Hamas fighters were inside the converted shelter.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middl ... 69377.html
In addition to this,
UN halts Gaza aid after convoy hit
The United Nations has suspended its aid operations in the Gaza Strip in the wake of a series of Israeli attacks on its personnel and buildings.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middl ... 39688.html
So what are they gonna say now, there are fighters in the convoys?
Finally,
Lets see if the Israelis will yet again ignore another UN resolution
UN passes Gaza ceasefire resolution
The United Nations Security Council in New York has passed a resolution calling for an "immediate, durable and fully respected ceasefire" in Gaza. The resolution passed with 14 votes in favour and only the US abstaining.0 -
Palestinian Jews will take back GAZA! It will happen, and there is nothing that the rest of the world can do to stop it. You poor, confused souls. Your radical obsessing is nothing short of propaganda. There is no truth, only Israel.0
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