The U.S Government Are Criminals

ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
edited July 2008 in A Moving Train
If anyone is in any doubt about this then watch the following video. I find it especially fitting that Reagan admits to being a terrorist and a supporter of death squads about 10 minutes in...

The parallels with what's happening today won't go unnoticed:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430
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  • this looks good.

    i'll watch it tomorrow.

    :D;):D
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    awesome.

    tomorrow will be a busy day for me. :D
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    is there a torrent of this anywhere? all i could find was one from demonoid but i'm not a member

    edit: well, i found where you can downloand it in mp4 format
    http://keepvid.com/?url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430&q=The+Secret+Government:+The+Constitution+in+Crisis


    lots can be found here
    http://netctr.com/media.html
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    El_Kabong wrote:
    is there a torrent of this anywhere? all i could find was one from demonoid but i'm not a member

    edit: well, i found where you can downloand it in mp4 format
    http://keepvid.com/?url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430&q=The+Secret+Government:+The+Constitution+in+Crisis


    lots can be found here
    http://netctr.com/media.html

    http://www.torrentz.com/d69ed879cf8479d5c5aaa381e1385edd668f1c08
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Bump.
  • You know what? Ollie even gets his own TV show!!

    http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/war-stories-with-oliver-north/EP00446228
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  • The bit on Iran at 29 mins for the next 5 mins or so, is good.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    The bit on Iran at 29 mins for the next 5 mins or so, is good.

    It's kind of incredible - though arguably not - that Reagan is considered (even by some people on this message board) to have been a great President. It certainly brings it home to you with regard to the task ahead when you realise that a large percentage of your own people are flag-sucking, hate mongers.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It certainly brings it home to you with regard to the task ahead when you realise that a large percentage of your own people are flag-sucking, hate mongers.

    Oh for god's sake. What, you drunk?

    First of all, a large percentage of Americans are not flag-sucking hate-mongers.

    Aren't you one of the first delicate flowers to always take offense to anything which you can remotely interpret as a "Generalization"? :rolleyes:

    Secondly, the fact you're someone who lives in China and you sit there pointing a finger and judging anyone else; is laughable. Get a grip.

    I simply love the hypocrisy of people like you.

    Oh so delicate ....and so sensitive.....and so defensive .......and sooooooooooo self-rigtheous.

    But it's always okay for you to open your big mouth and vomit the same exact crap at others, that you get so defensive about.....when other's do it. Or when you perceive they do it.

    Even though you're usually interpreting incorrectly, anyway.
  • StuartCStuartC Posts: 33
    NMyTree wrote:
    Oh for god's sake. What, you drunk?

    First of all, a large percentage of Americans are not flag-sucking hate-mongers.

    Aren't you one of the first delicate flowers to always take offense to anything which you can remotely interpret as a "Generalization"? :rolleyes:

    Secondly, the fact you're someone who lives in China and you sit there pointing a finger and judging anyone else; is laughable. Get a grip.

    I simply love the hypocrisy of people like you.

    Oh so delicate ....and so sensitive.....and so defensive .......and sooooooooooo self-rigtheous.

    But it's always okay for you to open your big mouth and vomit the same exact crap at others, that you get so defensive about.....when other's do it. Or when you perceive they do it.

    Even though you're usually interpreting incorrectly, anyway.

    amen.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NMyTree wrote:
    First of all, a large percentage of Americans are not flag-sucking hate-mongers.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Arabism
    Anti Arab Racism

    United States of America


    William A. Dorman, writing in the compedium The United States and the Middle East: A Search for New Perspectives (1992) notes that whereas "anti-Semitism is no longer socially acceptable, at least among the educated classes. No such social sanctions exist for anti-Arabism."[60]

    Philosopher Ayn Rand displayed strong (and sometimes ill-informed) anti-Arab feelings, which she sought to instill among her followers: "The Arabs are one of the least developed cultures. They are typically nomads [sic]. Their culture is primitive, and they resent Israel because it's the sole beachhead of modern science and civilization on their continent [sic]. When you have civilized men fighting savages, you support the civilized men, no matter who they are."[61].

    During the 1991 Gulf war, anti-Arab sentiments increased in the United States.[62] Arab Americans have experienced a backlash as result of terrorist attacks, including events where Arabs were not involved, like the Oklahoma City bombing, the Iranian hostage crisis, and the explosion of TWA Flight 800.[63] According to a report prepared by the Arab American Institute, three days after the Oklahoma City bombing "more than 200 serious hate crimes were committed against Arab Americans and American Muslims. The same was true in the days following September 11."[63]

    According to a 2001 poll of Arab Americans conducted by the Arab American Institute, "32% of Arab Americans reported having been subjected to some form of ethnic-based discrimination during their lifetimes, 20% reported having experienced an instance of ethnic-based discrimination since September 11. Of special concern, for example, is the fact that 45% of students and 37% of Arab Americans of the Muslim faith report being targeted by discrimination since September 11.[63]

    According to the FBI and Arab groups, the number of attacks against Arabs, Muslims, and others mistaken as such rose considerably after the 9/11 attacks.[64] Hate crimes against people of Middle Eastern origin or descent increased from 354 attacks in 2000, to 1,501 attacks in 2001.[62] Among the victims of the backlash was a Middle Eastern man in Houston, Texas who was shot and wounded after an assailant accused him of "blowing up the country"[63] and four immigrants shot and killed by a man named Larme Price who confessed to killing them as a "revenge" for the September 2001 attacks.[65] Although Price described his victims as Arabs, only one was from an Arab country.

    Eric Boehlert has accused the US media, in particular Fox News, of "pandering to anti-Arab hysteria" by "fudging the facts and ignoring the most rudimentary tenets of journalism in their haste to better tell a sinister story about lurking Middle Eastern dangers".[66] John F. Sugg has accused prominent media terrorism expert Steve Emerson of persistent anti-Arab prejudice and of rushing to accuse Arab-Americans after the Oklahoma City bombing.[67]

    Prominent conservative commentators in the United States have voiced hostility towards Arabs. Bill O'Reilly has described Iraqis as a "pre-historic" and "primitive" group.[68] Michael Savage described Arabs as "non-humans" and "racist, fascist bigots" and advocated a nuclear attack on a "major Arab capital".[69]

    Earl Krugel and Irv Rubin, two members of the Jewish Defense League, described by the US Department of Homeland Security as a terrorist organization,[70] planned to bomb Arab-American Congressman Darrell Issa's office and the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California. The two were arrested as part of a sting operation when they received a shipment of explosives at Krugel's home in L.A. and both met their end in prison.[71] The group was also suspected of involvement in the 1985 bombing of ADC leader Alex Odeh, though no arrests were made.[72]

    Stephen E. Herbits, the Secretary-General of the New York-based World Jewish Congress made several racist remarks and ethnic slurs in an internal memo against the president of the European Jewish Congress Pierre Besnainou: "He is French. Don’t discount this. He cannot be trusted, ... He is Tunisian. Do not discount this either. He works like an Arab." [73] The World Jewish Congress in Israel has condemned the statements as both hateful and racist. "It appears that the struggle in the World Jewish Congress has now turned racist, said MK Shai Hermesh (Kadima), who heads the Israeli board of the WJC. Instead of creating unity among the Jewish people, this organization is just creating division and hatred."[74]

    [edit] Western media

    Main article: Stereotypes of Arabs and Muslims

    Parts of Hollywood are regarded as using a disproportionate number of Arabs as villains and of depicting Arabs negatively and stereotypically. According to Godfrey Cheshire, a critic on the New York Press, "the only vicious racial stereotype that's not only still permitted but actively endorsed by Hollywood" is that of Arabs as crazed terrorists.[75]

    Like the image projected of Jews in Nazi Germany, the image of Arabs projected by western movies is often that of "money-grubbing caricatures that sought world domination, worshipped a different God, killed innocents, and lusted after blond virgins." [76]

    The 2000 film Rules of Engagement drew criticism from Arab groups, described as "probably the most racist film ever made against Arabs by Hollywood" by the ADC.[75] Paul Clinton of the Boston Globe wrote "at its worst, it's blatantly racist, using Arabs as cartoon-cutout bad guys".[75]

    Jack Shaheen, in his book Reel Bad Arabs,[77] surveyed more than 900 film appearances of Arab characters. Of those, only a dozen were positive and 50 were balanced. Shaheen writes that "[Arab] stereotypes are deeply ingrained in American cinema. From 1896 until today, filmmakers have collectively indicted all Arabs as Public Enemy #1 – brutal, heartless, uncivilized religious fanatics and money-mad cultural "others" bent on terrorizing civilized Westerners, especially [Christians] and [Jews]. Much has happened since 1896… Throughout it all, Hollywood's caricature of the [Arab] has prowled the silver screen. He is there to this day – repulsive and unrepresentative as ever."[78].

    Some feel the obese, corrupt oil sheik has become the new fat, grotesque Jewish banker or merchant as a negative stereotype in Western media[79]. Ironically, the Arab leaders that resemble these caricatures the most are often the most dependent on US support for their positions.

    According to Newsweek columnist Meg Greenfield, anti-Arab sentiment presently cause misconceptions about Arabs, and hinder genuine peace in the Middle East.'
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NMyTree wrote:
    Secondly, the fact you're someone who lives in China and you sit there pointing a finger and judging anyone else; is laughable. Get a grip.

    I'd like you to elaborate on this comment. Also, when was the last time China invaded another country?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jesus Hated Bald Pussy
    Hunter S. Thompson - From 'Kingdom Of Fear'


    'Let's face it- the yo-yo president of the U.S.A. knows nothing. He is a dunce. He does what he is told to do- says what he is told to say- poses the way he is told to pose. He is a Fool.

    This is never an easy thing for the voters of this country to accept.

    No. Nonsense. The president cannot be a Fool. Not at this moment in time- when the last living vestiges of the American Dream are on the line. This is not the time to have a bogus rich kid in charge of the White House.

    Which is, after all, our house. That is our headquarters- it is where the heart of America lives. So if the president lies and acts giddy about other people's lives- if he wantonly and stupidly endorses mass murder as a logical plan to make sure we are still Number One- he is a Jackass by definition- a loud and meaningless animal with no functional intelligence and no balls.

    To say that this goofy child president is looking more and more like Richard Nixon in the summer of 1974 would be a flagrant insult to Nixon.

    Whoops! Did I say that? Is it even vaguely possible that some New Age Republican whore-beast of a false president could actually make Richard Nixon look like a Liberal?

    The capacity of these vicious assholes we elected to be in charge of our lives for four years to commit terminal damage to our lives and our souls and our loved ones is far beyond Nixon's. Shit! Nixon was the creator of many of the once-proud historical landmarks that these dumb bastards are savagely destroying now: the Clean Air Act of 1970; Campaign Finance Reform; the endangered species act; opening a Real Politik dialogue with China; and on and on.

    The prevailing quality of life in America- by any accepted methods of measuring- was inarguably freer and more politically open under Nixon than it is in this evil year of Our Lord 2002.

    The Boss was a certified monster who deserved to be impeached and banished. He was a truthless creature of former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover- a foul human monument to corruption and depravity on a scale that dwarfs any other public official in American history. But Nixon was at least smart enough to understand why so many honorable patriotic U.S. citizens despised him. He was a Liar. The truth was not in him.

    Nixon believed- as he said many times- that if the president of the United States does it, it can't be illegal. But Nixon never understood the much higher and meaner truth of Bob Dylan's warning that "To live outside the law you must be honest."

    The difference between an outlaw and a war criminal is the difference between a pedophile and a Pederast: The pedophile is a person who thinks about sexual behavior with children, and the Pederast does these things. He lays hands on innocent children- he penetrates them and changes their lives forever.

    Being the object of a pedophile's warped affections is a Routine feature of growing up in America- and being a victim of a Pederast's crazed "love" is part of dying. Innocence is no longer an option. Once penetrated, the child becomes a Queer in his own mind, and that is not much different than murder.

    Richard Nixon crossed that line when he began murdering foreigners in the name of "family values"- and George Bush crossed it when he sneaked into office and began killing brown-skinned children in the name of Jesus and the American people.

    When Muhammad Ali declined to be drafted and forced to kill "gooks" in Vietnam he said, "I ain't got nothin' against them Viet Cong. No Cong ever called me Nigger."

    I agreed with him, according to my own personal ethics and values. He was Right.

    If we all had a dash of Muhammad Ali's eloquent courage, this country and the world would be a better place today because of it.

    Okay. That's it for now. Read it and weep.... See you tomorrow, folks. You haven't heard the last of me. I am the one who speaks for the spirit of freedom and decency in you. Shit. Somebody has to do it.

    We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world- a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are not just Whores for power and oil, but killer whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and that is how history will judge us.... No redeeming social value. Just whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you.

    Well, shit on that dumbness. George W. Bush does not speak for me or my son or my mother or my friends or the people I respect in this world. We didn't vote for these cheap, greedy little killers who speak for America today- and we will not vote for them again in 2002. Or 2004. Or ever.

    Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?

    They are the same ones who wanted Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hate mongers among us- they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis.

    And I am too old to worry about whether they like it or not. Fuck them.'
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I'd like you to elaborate on this comment. Also, when was the last time China invaded another country?

    you mean aside from tibet?
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    you mean aside from tibet?

    yeah. ;)
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Byrnzie wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Arabism
    Anti Arab Racism

    United States of America


    William A. Dorman, writing in the compedium The United States and the Middle East: A Search for New Perspectives (1992) notes '

    You're too funny.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I'd like you to elaborate on this comment. Also, when was the last time China invaded another country?


    Um, like......four months ago......five.....six months ago. Who knows exactly how long it has been going on. You know, that Tibet thing.

    You're acting like the Americans you hate....... See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak No Evil ...when in regards to your own.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jesus Hated Bald Pussy
    Hunter S. Thompson - From 'Kingdom Of Fear'


    'Let's face it- the yo-yo president of the U.S.A. knows nothing. He is a dunce. He does what he is told to do- says what he is told to say- poses the way he is told to pose. He is a Fool.

    This is never an easy thing for the voters of this country to accept.

    No. Nonsense. The president cannot be a Fool. Not at this moment in time- when the last living vestiges of the American Dream are on the line. This is not the time to have a bogus rich kid in charge of the White House.

    Which is, after all, our house. That is our headquarters- it is where the heart of America lives. So if the president lies and acts giddy about other people's lives- if he wantonly and stupidly endorses mass murder as a logical plan to make sure we are still Number One- he is a Jackass by definition- a loud and meaningless animal with no functional intelligence and no balls.

    To say that this goofy child president is looking more and more like Richard Nixon in the summer of 1974 would be a flagrant insult to Nixon.

    Whoops! Did I say that? Is it even vaguely possible that some New Age Republican whore-beast of a false president could actually make Richard Nixon look like a Liberal?

    The capacity of these vicious assholes we elected to be in charge of our lives for four years to commit terminal damage to our lives and our souls and our loved ones is far beyond Nixon's. Shit! Nixon was the creator of many of the once-proud historical landmarks that these dumb bastards are savagely destroying now: the Clean Air Act of 1970; Campaign Finance Reform; the endangered species act; opening a Real Politik dialogue with China; and on and on.

    The prevailing quality of life in America- by any accepted methods of measuring- was inarguably freer and more politically open under Nixon than it is in this evil year of Our Lord 2002.

    The Boss was a certified monster who deserved to be impeached and banished. He was a truthless creature of former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover- a foul human monument to corruption and depravity on a scale that dwarfs any other public official in American history. But Nixon was at least smart enough to understand why so many honorable patriotic U.S. citizens despised him. He was a Liar. The truth was not in him.

    Nixon believed- as he said many times- that if the president of the United States does it, it can't be illegal. But Nixon never understood the much higher and meaner truth of Bob Dylan's warning that "To live outside the law you must be honest."

    The difference between an outlaw and a war criminal is the difference between a pedophile and a Pederast: The pedophile is a person who thinks about sexual behavior with children, and the Pederast does these things. He lays hands on innocent children- he penetrates them and changes their lives forever.

    Being the object of a pedophile's warped affections is a Routine feature of growing up in America- and being a victim of a Pederast's crazed "love" is part of dying. Innocence is no longer an option. Once penetrated, the child becomes a Queer in his own mind, and that is not much different than murder.

    Richard Nixon crossed that line when he began murdering foreigners in the name of "family values"- and George Bush crossed it when he sneaked into office and began killing brown-skinned children in the name of Jesus and the American people.

    When Muhammad Ali declined to be drafted and forced to kill "gooks" in Vietnam he said, "I ain't got nothin' against them Viet Cong. No Cong ever called me Nigger."

    I agreed with him, according to my own personal ethics and values. He was Right.

    If we all had a dash of Muhammad Ali's eloquent courage, this country and the world would be a better place today because of it.

    Okay. That's it for now. Read it and weep.... See you tomorrow, folks. You haven't heard the last of me. I am the one who speaks for the spirit of freedom and decency in you. Shit. Somebody has to do it.

    We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world- a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are not just Whores for power and oil, but killer whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and that is how history will judge us.... No redeeming social value. Just whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you.

    Well, shit on that dumbness. George W. Bush does not speak for me or my son or my mother or my friends or the people I respect in this world. We didn't vote for these cheap, greedy little killers who speak for America today- and we will not vote for them again in 2002. Or 2004. Or ever.

    Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?

    They are the same ones who wanted Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hate mongers among us- they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis.

    And I am too old to worry about whether they like it or not. Fuck them.'

    I don't know what's funnier. That you think I disagree with that or that you think you're proving some kind of point with it. :D
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Jesus Hated Bald Pussy
    Hunter S. Thompson - From 'Kingdom Of Fear'


    'Let's face it- the yo-yo president of the U.S.A. knows nothing. He is a dunce. He does what he is told to do- says what he is told to say- poses the way he is told to pose. He is a Fool.

    This is never an easy thing for the voters of this country to accept.

    No. Nonsense. The president cannot be a Fool. Not at this moment in time- when the last living vestiges of the American Dream are on the line. This is not the time to have a bogus rich kid in charge of the White House.

    Which is, after all, our house. That is our headquarters- it is where the heart of America lives. So if the president lies and acts giddy about other people's lives- if he wantonly and stupidly endorses mass murder as a logical plan to make sure we are still Number One- he is a Jackass by definition- a loud and meaningless animal with no functional intelligence and no balls.

    To say that this goofy child president is looking more and more like Richard Nixon in the summer of 1974 would be a flagrant insult to Nixon.

    Whoops! Did I say that? Is it even vaguely possible that some New Age Republican whore-beast of a false president could actually make Richard Nixon look like a Liberal?

    The capacity of these vicious assholes we elected to be in charge of our lives for four years to commit terminal damage to our lives and our souls and our loved ones is far beyond Nixon's. Shit! Nixon was the creator of many of the once-proud historical landmarks that these dumb bastards are savagely destroying now: the Clean Air Act of 1970; Campaign Finance Reform; the endangered species act; opening a Real Politik dialogue with China; and on and on.

    The prevailing quality of life in America- by any accepted methods of measuring- was inarguably freer and more politically open under Nixon than it is in this evil year of Our Lord 2002.

    The Boss was a certified monster who deserved to be impeached and banished. He was a truthless creature of former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover- a foul human monument to corruption and depravity on a scale that dwarfs any other public official in American history. But Nixon was at least smart enough to understand why so many honorable patriotic U.S. citizens despised him. He was a Liar. The truth was not in him.

    Nixon believed- as he said many times- that if the president of the United States does it, it can't be illegal. But Nixon never understood the much higher and meaner truth of Bob Dylan's warning that "To live outside the law you must be honest."

    The difference between an outlaw and a war criminal is the difference between a pedophile and a Pederast: The pedophile is a person who thinks about sexual behavior with children, and the Pederast does these things. He lays hands on innocent children- he penetrates them and changes their lives forever.

    Being the object of a pedophile's warped affections is a Routine feature of growing up in America- and being a victim of a Pederast's crazed "love" is part of dying. Innocence is no longer an option. Once penetrated, the child becomes a Queer in his own mind, and that is not much different than murder.

    Richard Nixon crossed that line when he began murdering foreigners in the name of "family values"- and George Bush crossed it when he sneaked into office and began killing brown-skinned children in the name of Jesus and the American people.

    When Muhammad Ali declined to be drafted and forced to kill "gooks" in Vietnam he said, "I ain't got nothin' against them Viet Cong. No Cong ever called me Nigger."

    I agreed with him, according to my own personal ethics and values. He was Right.

    If we all had a dash of Muhammad Ali's eloquent courage, this country and the world would be a better place today because of it.

    Okay. That's it for now. Read it and weep.... See you tomorrow, folks. You haven't heard the last of me. I am the one who speaks for the spirit of freedom and decency in you. Shit. Somebody has to do it.

    We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world- a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are not just Whores for power and oil, but killer whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and that is how history will judge us.... No redeeming social value. Just whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you.

    Well, shit on that dumbness. George W. Bush does not speak for me or my son or my mother or my friends or the people I respect in this world. We didn't vote for these cheap, greedy little killers who speak for America today- and we will not vote for them again in 2002. Or 2004. Or ever.

    Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?

    They are the same ones who wanted Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hate mongers among us- they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis.

    And I am too old to worry about whether they like it or not. Fuck them.'

    Hunter S Thompson was working on a story about the WTC collapse, HE THOUGHT HE HAD PROOF, and he THOUGHT HE WOULD BE "SUICIDED".

    ?? :( ?? :eek: ?? :( ??
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  • Byrnzie wrote:
    It's kind of incredible - though arguably not - that Reagan is considered (even by some people on this message board) to have been a great President. It certainly brings it home to you with regard to the task ahead when you realise that a large percentage of your own people are flag-sucking, hate mongers.

    Reagan strikes me as a play along type guy, just happy to be doing his country the ultimate patriotic service after decidedly wrapping up his movie career, and I think that's how the people around him made him feel most of the time. Who knows how early and to what degree the Alzheimer's kicked in.

    It is rather incredible. "Beware the MIC". It's a rather complex statement, whereby many doing just a small part adds up to a lot...and there will always be those individuals (and like minded group$) within the institution willing to step forward and make the hard (life and death) decisions and further justify them as a necessary evil (and live by it as law).....and $ucceed very handsomely in the process.

    but at what expense?

    I could elaborate... but I'll stop there.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NMyTree wrote:
    You're too funny.


    Yeah, I'm hilarious.
    I live in NYC- ask 99.9% of the people here. They would say wipe the entire middle east out.
    I know it's not realistic, and I know that there are many innocent people over there who are outraged by what their people did.... but there is no way in hell I want to relive 9/11 and if that means bombing them all- so be it. Ask a NY'er to tell you about 9/11.... the horror is as real as it was as the afternoon of that horrible day....

    I'm not a monster- I work with run away and homeless children... sit on the board of 3 local charities including Tuesday's Children- a not for profit serving children who lost a parents on 9/11. I see every day first hand what those monsters did to this city..... with that I believe it with 100% of my heart that we should have went over on 9/12/2001 and bombed the hell hell out of those animals.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NMyTree wrote:
    Um, like......four months ago......five.....six months ago. Who knows exactly how long it has been going on. You know, that Tibet thing.

    1959. Hmm, let me see, since that time the U.S has bombed or invaded:

    Cuba 1959-60
    Guatemala 1960
    Belgian Congo 1964
    Guatemala 1964
    Dominican Republic 1965-66
    Peru 1965
    Laos 1964-73
    Vietnam 1961-73
    Cambodia 1969-70
    Guatemala 1967-69
    Lebanon 1982-84
    Grenada 1983-84
    Libya 1986
    El Salvador 1981-92
    Nicaragua 1981-90
    Libya 1986
    Iran 1987-88
    Libya 1989
    Panama 1989-90
    Iraq 1991-2002
    Kuwait 1991
    Somalia 1992-94
    Croatia 1994 (of Serbs at Krajina)
    Bosnia 1995
    Iran 1998 (airliner)
    Sudan 1998
    Afghanistan 1998
    Yugoslavia 1999
    Afghanistan 2001-02
    Iraq 2003 -
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Hunter S Thompson was working on a story about the WTC collapse, HE THOUGHT HE HAD PROOF, and he THOUGHT HE WOULD BE "SUICIDED".

    ?? :( ?? :eek: ?? :( ??

    'To continue reading this article, you will need to purchase this article.'
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Hunter S Thompson was working on a story about the WTC collapse, HE THOUGHT HE HAD PROOF, and he THOUGHT HE WOULD BE "SUICIDED".

    ?? :( ?? :eek: ?? :( ??

    Here ya go...

    http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/03/312533.shtml

    Edit: Actually, even this is only the first pasge of the article.

    Fuck the Toronto Globe.
    Must be able to get the whole thing somewhere.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Byrnzie wrote:
    1959. Hmm, let me see, since that time the U.S has bombed or invaded:

    Cuba 1959-60
    Guatemala 1960
    Belgian Congo 1964
    Guatemala 1964
    Dominican Republic 1965-66
    Peru 1965
    Laos 1964-73
    Vietnam 1961-73
    Cambodia 1969-70
    Guatemala 1967-69
    Lebanon 1982-84
    Grenada 1983-84
    Libya 1986
    El Salvador 1981-92
    Nicaragua 1981-90
    Libya 1986
    Iran 1987-88
    Libya 1989
    Panama 1989-90
    Iraq 1991-2002
    Kuwait 1991
    Somalia 1992-94
    Croatia 1994 (of Serbs at Krajina)
    Bosnia 1995
    Iran 1998 (airliner)
    Sudan 1998
    Afghanistan 1998
    Yugoslavia 1999
    Afghanistan 2001-02
    Iraq 2003 -


    So now you've resorted to making an argument for something I have not argued against? :D

    Uh boy.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NMyTree wrote:
    So now you've resorted to making an argument for something I have not argued against? :D

    Uh boy.

    I'm not sure what argument you are making. Maybe you'd care to explain to it to me?
    Seems to me that - like with that pointlessly drawn out debate we had over Israel-Palestine - that you're simply trying to be clever and to catch me out. I don't know why. I'd have thought there'd be something more productive for you to do.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Hunter S Thompson was working on a story about the WTC collapse, HE THOUGHT HE HAD PROOF, and he THOUGHT HE WOULD BE "SUICIDED".

    ?? :( ?? :eek: ?? :( ??
    He also caught that little punk G W passed out in his bathtub during a superbowl party back in the day. He should have taken pictures.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,561
    thanks for posting, still got that otther 9/11 one to watch. I dont really know much about politics and how it all works etc but i find stuff like this interesting though ;p
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I BrisK I wrote:
    thanks for posting, still got that otther 9/11 one to watch. I dont really know much about politics and how it all works etc but i find stuff like this interesting though ;p

    This one's really good.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I'm not sure what argument you are making. Maybe you'd care to explain to it to me?
    Seems to me that - like with that pointlessly drawn out debate we had over Israel-Palestine - that you're simply trying to be clever and to catch me out. I don't know why. I'd have thought there'd be something more productive for you to do.

    You're just playing around, here.

    You know what my point was from my very first post.

    You made a sweeping generalization. Which is interesting considering you're always the first to pounch on anyone else, when you perceive a generalization regarding Muslims.
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