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    Many people see Chomsky as blaming America for the world's problems, but I think they're missing his main point that we should be criticizing ourselves before we criticize others for doing the same things. He's an American, so he criticizes American policy first and most often. That doesn't mean he's ignoring the crimes of other nations. He just wants to focus on America, because he's an American and he's not happy with its policies.
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    stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    Saturnal wrote:
    Many people see Chomsky as blaming America for the world's problems, but I think they're missing his main point that we should be criticizing ourselves before we criticize others for doing the same things. He's an American, so he criticizes American policy first and most often. That doesn't mean he's ignoring the crimes of other nations. He just wants to focus on America, because he's an American and he's not happy with its policies.

    That is my point....he criticizes America first before he even looks at the rest of the world doings....He them overlooks them.....= double standards
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    ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    stickfig13 wrote:
    Well then you missed the point of the article when you read it. Everyone who has followed Chomsky's career knows that this is his biggest flaw.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anti-Chomsky_Reader

    see the first section under contents....it is the first chapter of the book.

    You mean the section which quotes exclusively from 'The Anti-Chomsky Reader', which doesn't refer to, or quote from his work, but instead makes some sweeping, un-supported statements that have the sole intention of criticising him?
    If you can go to his actual writings and/or sayings instead and find me an example of, for instance, an expression of sympathy for the Khmer Rouge then I'll be grateful.
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    stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You mean the section which quotes exclusively from 'The Anti-Chomsky Reader', which doesn't refer to, or quote from his work, but instead makes some sweeping, un-supported statements that have the sole intention of criticising him?
    If you can go to his actual writings and/or sayings instead and find me an example of, for instance, an expression of sympathy for the Khmer Rouge then I'll be grateful.

    http://www.mekong.net/cambodia/chomsky.htm
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    stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You mean the section which quotes exclusively from 'The Anti-Chomsky Reader', which doesn't refer to, or quote from his work, but instead makes some sweeping, un-supported statements that have the sole intention of criticising him?
    If you can go to his actual writings and/or sayings instead and find me an example of, for instance, an expression of sympathy for the Khmer Rouge then I'll be grateful.
    http://www.jim.com/chomsdis.htm
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    stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You mean the section which quotes exclusively from 'The Anti-Chomsky Reader', which doesn't refer to, or quote from his work, but instead makes some sweeping, un-supported statements that have the sole intention of criticising him?
    If you can go to his actual writings and/or sayings instead and find me an example of, for instance, an expression of sympathy for the Khmer Rouge then I'll be grateful.


    see section on Cambodia. With collected writings...http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomskyhoax.html
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    stickfig13 wrote:
    That is my point....he criticizes America first before he even looks at the rest of the world doings....He them overlooks them.....= double standards
    As an American citizen he sees it as his duty to participate. Wouldn't it be a better place if we all felt that way? We certainly wouldn't have such a large democratic deficit - the gap between public opinion and policy. Chomsky is a true American. He's not trying to find someone to blame, he's trying to change policy for the better and so it can be even in the same ballpark as public opinion. Most people just don't give a fuck. It's like Ed said in Storytellers when he said that it's like a childhood game.....we know they're fucking with us yet we do nothing about it. Chomsky refuses to accept that. He can change things here in his own country far better than anywhere else. Plus, we all know that this is where the problem lies anyway, let's all open our eyes please.
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    stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    As an American citizen he sees it as his duty to participate. Wouldn't it be a better place if we all felt that way? We certainly wouldn't have such a large democratic deficit - the gap between public opinion and policy. Chomsky is a true American. He's not trying to find someone to blame, he's trying to change policy for the better and so it can be even in the same ballpark as public opinion. Most people just don't give a fuck. It's like Ed said in Storytellers when he said that it's like a childhood game.....we know they're fucking with us yet we do nothing about it. Chomsky refuses to accept that. He can change things here in his own country far better than anywhere else. Plus, we all know that this is where the problem lies anyway, let's all open our eyes please.



    The rest of the world is doing it.....but he is a patriot by calling out the US because it practices geo-politics.

    and Ed is any political converstion doesn't carry much weight with me....uh um
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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    stickfig13 wrote:
    The rest of the world is doing it.....but he is a patriot by calling out the US because it practices geo-politics.

    and Ed is any political converstion doesn't carry much weight with me....uh um


    practicing geo-politics, aka- attempt to take over the world.
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    Commy wrote:
    Not at all. They found actual stories about the Khmer Rouge massacre that were completely fabricated, and pointed that out. When we look back on it now we can see they really didn't need to, there were plenty oif horror stories..but they wanted a Russian sattelite to be so evil and look so bad in the world's eye that they fabricated stories about an already terrible atrocity that was taking place.

    It is a look at the very complex propaganda system in the United States, not a look into the Khmer Rouge Massacre.

    truth is, no one knew of what was going on in cambodia for sure until 1979, when they were liberated by the vietnamese.

    i'm not commenting on chomsky in this respect, cause i don't know all the facts about what he did or did not say, or the context to which he did or did not say them in. if he said things in support of cambodia and the khmer rouge, though, that is unfortunate. it would, however, put him directly in line with US policy, seeing that we both covertly and overtly supported the khmer rouge well into the 90's. so for those of you that think he disagrees with US policy no matter what, then i guess he would have been greatly against the khmer rouge regime.

    seriously, it is the most depressing thing i have ever wittnessed. i was in cambodia this past january, and visited the killing fields and tuol sleng, and was speechless...in tears. the fact that we supported this regime for so long, even after they were thrown from power, is sickenning...all part of our anti-vietnamese platform that lasted until clinton in '94.

    ok, i'm depressed again...
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