Iraq is finished

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  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,140
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Do you honestly believe that America is there solely for noble and altruistic purposes?


    But........that's what FOX News says! :(
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  • HoonHoon Posts: 175
    It may be a good idea.

    I'm not so sure it was for India/Pakistan though.

    It may just serve the interests of the greedy plan.

    Turkey threatened to enter N. Iraq.

    Anything sounds good really.

    I support all countries getting smaller and divided, some are just too dam big, Some identify with nationalistic pride and won't let go.

    Just make sure each division has equal resources....like water / farmland....or violence will be permanent.
    If you keep yourself as the final arbiter you will be less susceptible to infection from cultural illusion.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Hoon wrote:
    It may be a good idea.

    I'm not so sure it was for India/Pakistan though.

    It may just serve the interests of the greedy plan.

    Turkey threatened to enter N. Iraq.

    Anything sounds good really.

    I support all countries getting smaller and divided, some are just too dam big, Some identify with nationalistic pride and won't let go.

    Just make sure each division has equal resources....like water / farmland....or violence will be permanent.
    ...
    Here's a plan:
    We take the entire fucking region... erase all the goddamn lines on the map... throw all of those fuckers in one room and make them draw up the fucking borders for themselves.
    We'll give 'em a year to figure that shit out. if they don't come up with an agreement bt then... the whole fucking lot is given to Mexico to manage.
    ...
    That should do the trick.
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  • rightonduderightondude Posts: 745
    well......

    Pack up, and bring all your marshmallows ladies and gents....there's gonna be plenty of rather large assorted bonfires to come in Iraq. Mostly in places you wouldn't expect to see either! ;)
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Byrnzie wrote:
    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article1193108.ece

    Sectarian break-up of Iraq is now inevitable, admit officials
    By Patrick Cockburn in Amman
    Published: 24 July 2006


    The Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, meets Tony Blair in London today as violence in Iraq reaches a new crescendo and senior Iraqi officials say the break up of the country is inevitable.

    A car bomb in a market in the Shia stronghold of Sadr City in Baghdad yesterday killed 34 people and wounded a further 60 and was followed by a second bomb in the same area two hours later that left a further eight dead. Another car bomb outside a court house in Kirkuk killed a further 20 and injured 70 people.

    "Iraq as a political project is finished," a senior government official was quoted as saying, adding: "The parties have moved to plan B." He said that the Shia, Sunni and Kurdish parties were now looking at ways to divide Iraq between them and to decide the future of Baghdad, where there is a mixed population. "There is serious talk of Baghdad being divided into [Shia] east and [Sunni] west," he said.

    Hoshyar Zebari, the Iraqi Foreign Minister, told The Independent in an interview, before joining Mr Maliki to fly to London and then Washington, that in theory the government should be able to solve the crisis because Shia, Kurd and Sunni were elected members of it.

    But he painted a picture of a deeply divided administration in which senior Sunni members praised anti-government insurgents as "the heroic resistance".

    In the past two weeks, at a time when Lebanon has dominated the international news, the sectarian civil war in central Iraq has taken a decisive turn for the worse. There have been regular tit-for-tat massacres and the death toll for July is likely to far exceed the 3,149 civilians killed in June.

    Mr Maliki, who is said to be increasingly isolated, has failed to prevent the violence. Other Iraqi leaders claim he lacks experience in dealing with security, is personally very isolated without a kitchen cabinet and is highly dependent on 30-40 Americans in unofficial advisory positions around him.

    "The government is all in the Green Zone like the previous one and they have left the streets to the terrorists," said Mahmoud Othman, a veteran Iraqi politician. He said the situation would be made worse by the war in Lebanon because it would intensify the struggle between Iran and the US being staged in Iraq. The Iraqi crisis would now receive much reduced international attention.

    The switch of American and British media attention to Lebanon and away from the rapidly deteriorating situation in Baghdad is much to the political benefit of Mr Blair and Mr Bush.

    "Maliki's trip to Washington is all part of the US domestic agenda to put a good face on things for November," a European diplomat in Baghdad was quoted as saying.

    Ever since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein a succession of Iraqi political leaders have been fêted in London and Washington where they claimed to have the insurgents on the run. Mr Maliki's meetings with Mr Blair today and Mr Bush tomorrow are likely to be lower key but will serve the same purpose before the US Congressional elections in November. US commanders are considering moving more of their troops - there are some 55,000 near the capital * into Baghdad to halt sectarian violence.

    Meanwhile, Saddam Hussein has begun to receive fluids voluntarily after being taken to hospital following 17 days on a hunger strike to protest against biased court procedures and the murder of three defence lawyers.Among fellow Sunni his defiant court performances have rehabilitated his reputation, though he is still detested by Kurds and Shia.

    Civil war is not finished.. America had a civil war. They have been finished, and will continue to be finished from the moment we invaded, conquered, and impose our will.

    Sadly they Iraq is losing its life, self respect, and identity daily. Many think that is a good thing. Those people are wrong.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    if they're not ready to live together, why not let them divide?
  • rightonduderightondude Posts: 745
    I wonder if everyone will line up miles long with the US soldiers and do high fives like at the end of a hockey game...
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