Should Bush be Impeached??

callen

jeffer96 wrote:

Um...where exactly did I state that those against Bush had to be democrats? The question was whether or not Bush could be impeached for Iraq. The quotes I posted, which do in fact happen to be from Democrats, all point at Iraq possessing the capabilites to make WMDs. Look, I'm a Republican, but I'm not the biggest Bush supporter by any means. All I'm saying is that intelligence pointed at Iraq having or being able to have WMDs for over a decade. It wasn't just a Bush II thing. I'm sure a good portion of this board hates the President, but the fact he is hated is not enough to impeach him.

where were you.....Bush, Cheney and cronies couldn't say how Iraq was an imminent threat enough..and how evil they were and how they were tied to Al Quaida etc...they used fear to get support for the war..intelligence or not..they're the ones that said anything to get us into war.

And as what the intelligence said...many of us even if we took the evidence at face value still wouldn't have invaded Iraq. It was a bone head move no matter how you looked at it.

callen

zstillings wrote:

I don't think there is any evidence of a "high crime" or "misdemeanor" that would justify the high cost of impeachment. When people talk about how they waste billions on the war to "line Halliburton's pockets," they somehow don't seem to mind the billions that would line the lawyers' pockets.

the crimes YET! I'm just hoping they will...and your reasoning for not investigating and prosecuting make no sence..... ah ah ah..."Lets not impeach Bush cause it will cost too much".

I'm not for impeaching as I don't see any good coming out of it...but again I hope it is investigated so Bush supporters realize they were punked. It will happen by the way..may be 10 years..but the time will come. Bush will go down as the worst president in American history..and people will compare his supporters to Hitlers supporters. No I'm not comparing Hitler to Bush or their actions.

floyd1975

callen wrote:

the crimes YET! I'm just hoping they will...and your reasoning for not investigating and prosecuting make no sence..... ah ah ah..."Lets not impeach Bush cause it will cost too much".

I'm not for impeaching as I don't see any good coming out of it...but again I hope it is investigated so Bush supporters realize they were punked. It will happen by the way..may be 10 years..but the time will come. Bush will go down as the worst president in American history..and people will compare his supporters to Hitlers supporters. No I'm not comparing Hitler to Bush or their actions.

Yet you complain about all of the other costs? A witch hunt was not good for the country during Clinton's times and would not be a good use of tax dollars today.

Byrnzie

callen wrote:

the crimes YET! I'm just hoping they will...and your reasoning for not investigating and prosecuting make no sence..... ah ah ah..."Lets not impeach Bush cause it will cost too much".

I'm not for impeaching as I don't see any good coming out of it...but again I hope it is investigated so Bush supporters realize they were punked. It will happen by the way..may be 10 years..but the time will come. Bush will go down as the worst president in American history..and people will compare his supporters to Hitlers supporters. No I'm not comparing Hitler to Bush or their actions.

Houston Texas!! I don't think I've met a Houstonite on here before. The home of Bill Hicks - that fact alone makes me fond of the place. And the fact that I had a great time at Waterworld there when I was a kid.

soulsinging

this is not really an issue is it? the guy has clearly lost. he's beaten and his agenda and presidency is dead in the water. let him ride those last 2 years into infamy and then get fresh leadership. impeachment would backfire big time and destroy the democrats. plus, we'd have dick cheney in office. the american people think bush is ineffective and incompetent, but they do not think he is a criminal and it is important that the dems acknowledge that. let this victory be abotu restoring america to americans, not wresting america from a bunch of insane republicans and handing it over to a bunch of insane democrats.

callen

zstillings wrote:

Yet you complain about all of the other costs? A witch hunt was not good for the country during Clinton's times and would not be a good use of tax dollars today.

Clinton's indiscretions in no way compare with Bush and croanies getting us in an unwinnable war spending billions of dollars, causing thousands and thousands of human lives.
Lets compare at least apples to oranges..not apples to planets.

callen

Byrnzie wrote:

Houston Texas!! I don't think I've met a Houstonite on here before. The home of Bill Hicks - that fact alone makes me fond of the place. And the fact that I had a great time at Waterworld there when I was a kid.

and its a real bitch having my views in this town...but hey, watcha gonna do. Glad you enjoyed our fair city and water park and of course Mr Hicks. And if you ever come back..first pints on me.

floyd1975

callen wrote:

Clinton's indiscretions in no way compare with Bush and croanies getting us in an unwinnable war spending billions of dollars, causing thousands and thousands of human lives.
Lets compare at least apples to oranges..not apples to planets.

I was against the Clinton impeachment as well. That was a horrible waste of tax dollars.

Byrnzie

callen wrote:

and its a real bitch having my views in this town...but hey, watcha gonna do. Glad you enjoyed our fair city and water park and of course Mr Hicks. And if you ever come back..first pints on me.

Cool! There's three places I wanna visit in America that I've not been to before. Austin (Butthole Surfers, Richard Linklater, Daniel Johnston, Janis Joplin, Roky Erickson), Seattle, and Alaska. If I pass by Houston I'll give you a shout.

my2hands

miller8966 wrote:

b) instead of impeachment maybe the dems can actualy try to do something..ya know for the people.

you obvioulsy have no idea what you are talking about buddy

WMA

It is probably a little bit premature to call for impeachment.

If something really bad comes out with the oversight and investigations that will be done, the option will still be there. Who knows, maybe they will catch him in a lie under oath or something

hippiemom

NCfan wrote:

Look, I don't like Bush. But there is no evidence to impleach him, or more importantly to take him before the Hague.

Just becuase the Democrats won the majority in Congress, doesn't mean Bush is guilty of anything other than losing the confidence of the electorate. It doesn't mean he's a bad or evil person, it just means people disagree with him.

Of course there's no evidence! There's been no investigations! Evidence doesn't normally just drop out of the sky. That is why I said "probably." My suspicion is that such evidence does exist. If it doesn't, then obviously he shouldn't be impeached.

It's all academic though, because it's not going to happen.

hippiemom

soulsinging wrote:

plus, we'd have dick cheney in office.

But just think if we could get them both!

President Pelosi

floyd1975

hippiemom wrote:

President Pelosi

And once she resigns in disgrace, Democrats can have what they've always wanted...The leader of the KKK himself.

The Illinoisemakers

No Bush should not be impeached, it's a waste of time and money. And, if we're going to send him to the Hague on war crimes, we might as well bring with him all the Democrats and Republicans in Congress who voted for the war.

I really think if the Democrats try to impeach Bush, they are shooting themselves in the foot come the 08 elections. The people gave them Congress so that they can get some things done, and provide some new ideas on Iraq, which seems impossible, but we'll see.

hippiemom

zstillings wrote:

And once she resigns in disgrace, Democrats can have what they've always wanted...The leader of the KKK himself.

He's about a couple hundred years old, isn't he? He'll probably drop dead before all this can take place, in which case it will be ....

President Kennedy!

norm

hippiemom wrote:

He's about a couple hundred years old, isn't he? He'll probably drop dead before all this can take place, in which case it will be ....

President Kennedy!

Maybe we can keep knockin' 'em off until we get to . . .

President Obama:D

floyd1975

cutback wrote:

Maybe we can keep knockin' 'em off until we get to . . .

President Obama:D

Byrd would make sure to amend the constitution before he dies making sure that Obama could never be president. He will use some line like "it's called the White House for a reason."

DCGARDEN

callen wrote:

Clinton's indiscretions in no way compare with Bush and croanies getting us in an unwinnable war spending billions of dollars, causing thousands and thousands of human lives.
Lets compare at least apples to oranges..not apples to planets.

There are a lot of people who feel that Bush was doing what was best for this country. You can play the games and deny that, but you can't possibly be serious about impeaching a president who acted to prevent a threat from materializing - The other guy, while I wasn't for impeaching him, was doing what was best for his purple headed warrior - seriously, don't waste your energy on thoughts of impeaching Bush - I don't think the elections were won because the American people wanted a legal mess that got Bush dismissed that way - they wanted change and check & balances - so I'd start hoping your Dems can provide such things

callen

DCGARDEN wrote:

There are a lot of people who feel that Bush was doing what was best for this country. You can play the games and deny that, but you can't possibly be serious about impeaching a president who acted to prevent a threat from materializing - The other guy, while I wasn't for impeaching him, was doing what was best for his purple headed warrior - seriously, don't waste your energy on thoughts of impeaching Bush - I don't think the elections were won because the American people wanted a legal mess that got Bush dismissed that way - they wanted change and check & balances - so I'd start hoping your Dems can provide such things

on the impeachment thing....don't think Bush needs to be impeached..will ultimately hurt the Democrats.....and I also agree there were alot of people that in their hearts thought he was doing the right thing...but many of us..knew his logic was flawed also knew it was wrong to go into Iraq. I do also think there were lots of soft lies the administration told the American people...and for that they need to be called out so we don't have to go through this BS again.