Freedom fries & Freedom toast

Byrnzie

whulmef wrote:

Apparently the whole Freedom Fries thing started at some burger joint in Eastern North Carolina. It might have been at a Cubbies at the beach/beaufort. Not sure though. I have a feeling Freedom Fries is not used on the menu anymore. I may be imagining, but didnt some legislature approve the name change, like NC state legislature or Congress?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/send_wolfowitz_.html
Jones, a one-time Democrat who switched his party affiliation for the Republicans' 1994 takeover of Congress, is best known as the one-time staunch Iraq war supporter who called for the House of Representatives' cafeteria to rename its French fries "freedom fries" to protest France's unwillingness to join the operation.

The cafeteria assented, going so far as to rename their French toast "freedom toast."

Byrnzie

chopitdown wrote:

is it 2001-02 again?

He who forgets the past is destined to repeat it.

Flannel Shirt

America owes its existence to France (there rest of the world, blame France...he he ). We may still be fighting the Brits if not for them.

Long live France. Americas Grandfather.

Everyone is fucking nuts.

First of all....I still cannot believe one of my leaders (sorry world) wanted to change the name of the French Fries to Freedom Fries. Like its important to anything at all? Like its anything but moronic? Like France gives a flying fuck (probably happy).

Second, now that he has his 20/20 hindsight goggles on, he wants to send this Wolf scumbag over there to be mayor because he got us into this mess? Didnt he insult French Fries because he agreed with this Wolf?

farfromglorified

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/database/article_display.cfm?HHID=531

...about half way down...you learn something new everyday. Nice to see stupidity is not a modern invention.

norm

farfromglorified wrote:

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/database/article_display.cfm?HHID=531

...about half way down...you learn something new everyday. Nice to see stupidity is not a modern invention.

"Americans renamed sauerkraut "liberty cabbage"; dachshunds "liberty hounds"; and German measles "liberty measles."

W.....T......F??????

farfromglorified

cutback wrote:

"Americans renamed sauerkraut "liberty cabbage"; dachshunds "liberty hounds"; and German measles "liberty measles."

W.....T......F??????

Hehe...nice, huh? Actually I don't think Americans deserve all the "credit" for those. The "liberty measels" one was a British thing, I'm pretty sure.

chopitdown

Byrnzie wrote:

He who forgets the past is destined to repeat it.

very true, and i really hope we never live through something as stupid as freedom fries ever again.

he still stands

chopitdown wrote:

very true, and i really hope we never live through something as stupid as freedom fries ever again.

there are so many ignorant, ethnocentric people in this country... it is inevitable.

chopitdown

he still stands wrote:

there are so many ignorant, ethnocentric people in this country... it is inevitable.

it prob is inevitable, but there are seriously many other problems to worry about than changing "french" to freedom. It's just as much a waste of energy to change it to freedom fires as it is to complain about it...and with that I'll heed my advice.

THC

dunkman wrote:

i long for the day when an obnoxious american asks me for a 'glasgow kiss'...

I've heard through the grapevine that the 'ol glasgow kiss involves a lot of hand shananegans.....which is why is popularity is steadily on the rise!

Ahnimus

wikipedia.org wrote:

Culinary origin of the term
The straightforward explanation of the term is that it means 'potatoes fried in the French sense of the verb': 'to fry' can mean either sautéing or deep-fat frying, while its French origin 'frire' unambiguously means deep-frying : frites being its past participle used with a plural feminine substantive as in pommes de terre frites, 'deep-fried potatoes'.[1][2] Thomas Jefferson, famous for serving French dishes, wrote exactly the latter French expression.[1][3] In the early 20th century, the term 'French fried' was being used for foods such as onion rings or chicken, apart from potatoes.[4][5]

It is sometimes suggested that the verb 'to french' originally meant to julienne-cut.[6] But this term refers specifically to trimming the meat off the shanks of chops[7] and is not attested until after 'French fried potatoes' had appeared.

I don't think there is anything wrong with renaming something. Just as many cultures refer to "french fries" as "chips". But it is pretty obvious what is intended when a person changes all references to "french" into "freedom".

Ahnimus

THC wrote:

I've heard through the grapevine that the 'ol glasgow kiss involves a lot of hand shananegans.....which is why is popularity is steadily on the rise!

I'd never heard of it, so I looked it up.

A headbutt (or a Glasgow kiss[1]) is a strike with the head, typically involving the use of robust parts of the cranium as area of impact. Effective headbutting revolves around striking a sensitive area with a less sensitive area, such as striking the nose of an opponent with the forehead. A misplaced headbutt can cause more damage to the headbutter than the headbuttee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_kiss

Cosmo

It's sad and scary that more Americans hate France than Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
Why Saudi Arabia? Because the vast majority of the September 11th Hi-jackers were from Saudi Arabia... none of them were French. Schools in Saudi Arabia routinely preach hatred towards the West and extreme hatred towards Israel. And I suspect that when we find the terrorist's money trail, it'll lead back to Saudi Arabian citizens.
Why Pakistan? Because the majority of their people hate the West, specifically the U.S. The only 'Friend' we have over there is Musharaf... and he's about as good a friend to us as Saddam Hussein and Usama bin Laden were, back in the 1980s. If the enemy of your enemy hates everything about you (except for your money)... don't be a dick and give that asshole weapons... or admit you're a dick and quit complaining when those weapons are trained on you tomorrow. Plus... the Islamic Pakistan, with their shakey, fragile government (that rose to power in a military coup), already has nukes. In my opinion, this makes them one of the most dangerous nations in the world, in regards to the security of the U.S.
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France? Why do so many Americans hate them? You'll get a bunch of varying excuses about World War I and World War II and stuff about 'Oil For Food' scandals... but, when you get right down to it... it's mostly because they didn't go along with us on our little Crusade.

moeaholic

the only time i've heard the term "freedom fries" was when the senate wanted it to be listed on their menu instead of "french fries". that's it. and "freedom toast"..........first time i've heard that one.

PaperPlates

Cosmo wrote:

It's sad and scary that more Americans hate France than Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
Why Saudi Arabia? Because the vast majority of the September 11th Hi-jackers were from Saudi Arabia... none of them were French. Schools in Saudi Arabia routinely preach hatred towards the West and extreme hatred towards Israel. And I suspect that when we find the terrorist's money trail, it'll lead back to Saudi Arabian citizens.
Why Pakistan? Because the majority of their people hate the West, specifically the U.S. The only 'Friend' we have over there is Musharaf... and he's about as good a friend to us as Saddam Hussein and Usama bin Laden were, back in the 1980s. If the enemy of your enemy hates everything about you (except for your money)... don't be a dick and give that asshole weapons... or admit you're a dick and quit complaining when those weapons are trained on you tomorrow. Plus... the Islamic Pakistan, with their shakey, fragile government (that rose to power in a military coup), already has nukes. In my opinion, this makes them one of the most dangerous nations in the world, in regards to the security of the U.S.
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France? Why do so many Americans hate them? You'll get a bunch of varying excuses about World War I and World War II and stuff about 'Oil For Food' scandals... but, when you get right down to it... it's mostly because they didn't go along with us on our little Crusade.

Is it "okay" that they hate us? Is it okay with you that many nations hate Americans? Rhetorical question, because I know that it is. Its justified in your mind. But we're required to love every nation.

And I couldn't care less what they call french fries, as long as they taste good.

Specifics

PaperPlates wrote:

Is it "okay" that they hate us? Is it okay with you that many nations hate Americans? Rhetorical question, because I know that it is. Its justified in your mind. But we're required to love every nation.

And I couldn't care less what they call french fries, as long as they taste good.

I'd say there's more reason to hate you than hate them, you cant see that?
The French are for the most part arrogant pricks, as a people they are probably the most disliked amongst Europeans. But they keep their arrogance to their own personal space mostly, whereas america likes to export theirs in massive amounts.

So yes i can see why people would dislike the French but hate america.

PS sorry frenchies i dont particularly dislike you but on my travels i find it to be true:(:)

PPS not sorry to america

MrBrian

Specifics wrote:

I'd say there's more reason to hate you than hate them, you cant see that?
The French are for the most part arrogant pricks, as a people they are probably the most disliked amongst Europeans. But they keep their arrogance to their own personal space mostly, whereas america likes to export theirs in massive amounts.

So yes i can see why people would dislike the French but hate america.

PS sorry frenchies i dont particularly dislike you but on my travels i find it to be true:(:)

PPS not sorry to america

haha! You know, I think your reply is fairly accurate.

MrBrian

Cosmo wrote:

It's sad and scary that more Americans hate France than Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
Why Saudi Arabia? Because the vast majority of the September 11th Hi-jackers were from Saudi Arabia... none of them were French. Schools in Saudi Arabia routinely preach hatred towards the West and extreme hatred towards Israel. And I suspect that when we find the terrorist's money trail, it'll lead back to Saudi Arabian citizens.
Why Pakistan? Because the majority of their people hate the West, specifically the U.S. The only 'Friend' we have over there is Musharaf... and he's about as good a friend to us as Saddam Hussein and Usama bin Laden were, back in the 1980s. If the enemy of your enemy hates everything about you (except for your money)... don't be a dick and give that asshole weapons... or admit you're a dick and quit complaining when those weapons are trained on you tomorrow. Plus... the Islamic Pakistan, with their shakey, fragile government (that rose to power in a military coup), already has nukes. In my opinion, this makes them one of the most dangerous nations in the world, in regards to the security of the U.S.
...
France? Why do so many Americans hate them? You'll get a bunch of varying excuses about World War I and World War II and stuff about 'Oil For Food' scandals... but, when you get right down to it... it's mostly because they didn't go along with us on our little Crusade.

I think America should hate itself more so than any other country on earth and should call for an immediate boycott of itself. Based on above logic.

hypocrisy fries anyone?

mdigenakis

MrBrian wrote:

I think America should hate itself more so than any other country on earth and should call for an immediate boycott of itself. Based on above logic.

hypocrisy fries anyone?

how about a freedom turd?

onelongsong

Byrnzie wrote:

What are peoples opinions on this? I'd like to hear what some pro-war Republicans on here think of these things. I went to a bar in Florida a couple of years ago and they had 'freedom fries' on the menu. I proceeded to rip the piss out of the owner. He he he!

Discuss!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/send_wolfowitz_.html
Jones, a one-time Democrat who switched his party affiliation for the Republicans' 1994 takeover of Congress, is best known as the one-time staunch Iraq war supporter who called for the House of Representatives' cafeteria to rename its French fries "freedom fries" to protest France's unwillingness to join the operation.

The cafeteria assented, going so far as to rename their French toast "freedom toast."

it never ceases to amaze me what people will worry about. they'll thumb their noses at real problems like global warming and climate change; yet their infantile reaction to what a resturant calls it's menu selections is monumental. if you have a problem with my freedom burgers i refuse to serve you and ask you to leave.