Is it time for Hillary to fuck off??
Byrnzie
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...errm..no...not quite yet.
Seriously, does this fucking bitch know no shame?
Very good article here...
No shame, no gain
On a night when Obama made history, Clinton's reaction was dangerously abrasive and selfish
Michael Tomasky
June 4, 2008 4:45 AM
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/michael_tomasky/2008/06/no_shame_no_gain.html
The lead story tonight - my "lede," as we spell it here - should have been about the remarkable fact that a black man has been nominated by a major party to lead a developed Western nation for the first time in the history of the world. A man - in whose lifetime people with his shade of skin were denied the right to vote and to use public accommodations - who is now on the cusp of the presidency. It says something good about America, and I would like to have been able to dwell on it.
But no. Once again, it's all about Hillary Clinton, who delivered the most abrasive, self-absorbed, selfish, delusional, emasculating and extortionate political speech I've heard in a long time. And I've left out some adjectives, just to be polite.
Here's an interesting point for you. Barack Obama's speech, which featured a long and gracious nod to Clinton toward the beginning, was posted on various websites as early as 8:10pm East coast time. That means that Clinton - who didn't start speaking until 9:31pm, noticeably missing her introductory cue - and her staff had more than an hour to read Obama's speech and see that he was going to be more than kind to her.
But Clinton, who did not post her speech in advance, gave Obama a much briefer and more perfunctory nod. She congratulated him on his well-run campaign, but not on his victory, which is historic and assured. She told her crowd that, though she is now defeated, she "will be making no decisions tonight." She urged her voters - naturally nudged up to 18 million, which exaggerates the matter by about a half a million votes - to visit her website and send her messages, a piece of demagoguery that merely ensures that a week hence, if she wants to, she'll be able to say, "more than 10 million of my supporters have written to encourage me to go on to Denver". And speaking of the convention city, when her audience began chanting its name, she did not of course try to stop them and say that a convention fight was not in the interest of party unity.
What's her game? It's this, I think. It's not merely to be vice president. Although apparently it is that. I take it she and Bill have decided that being Obama's vice-president for eight years is the most plausible path to the presidency. But she did not on Tuesday night merely try to make a case for herself as a good vice-presidential candidate. She held a rhetorical knife to Obama's throat and said, in not so many words: I'm still calling some shots, buddy. You offer me the vice-presidency, or I walk away. But she has also forced Obama into a situation whereby if he chooses her now, he looks weak. So that's the choice she is hoping to impose on the nominee: don't choose me, and Bill and I will subtly work to see that you lose; choose me, and look like a weakling who can't lead the party without the Clintons after all. Now that's putting the interests of the party first, isn't it?
Democrats had better understand what this means, and they'd better not kid themselves. With any person other than a Clinton, this whole thing would have been over in late February - that is, any other candidate who lost 11 primaries in a row and ran out of money would have been shamed out of the race at that point. Or if not then, after May 6 (North Carolina and Indiana), when it became obvious that she could not come within 100 delegates of Obama, no matter what happened with Florida and Michigan.
But the Clintons know no shame, and more importantly, there has been no referee who could end this game, no one who could say to a Clinton, "Enough now." Well, Democrats have to say it. Now. Enough.
I really wanted to write a happy piece tonight. I wanted to write about Obama's amazing victory and about Clinton's tenacity being finally tempered by an acceptance of reality - reality that she'd lost and reality that, while there are indeed good arguments for her being on the ticket, the person who won the nominee has the right to choose the running mate.
Obama, after a slowish start, ended up giving a good, fiery speech aimed at John McCain. And McCain's speech, though flat in delivery, laid out his themes reasonably well. A race between these two men will be a race between two people who - whatever you think of their politics - are presenting substantive cases to the country and asking the people to choose. That's going to be a good show. But someone has to send that sore loser on the sidelines off to the showers once and for all.'
Seriously, does this fucking bitch know no shame?
Very good article here...
No shame, no gain
On a night when Obama made history, Clinton's reaction was dangerously abrasive and selfish
Michael Tomasky
June 4, 2008 4:45 AM
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/michael_tomasky/2008/06/no_shame_no_gain.html
The lead story tonight - my "lede," as we spell it here - should have been about the remarkable fact that a black man has been nominated by a major party to lead a developed Western nation for the first time in the history of the world. A man - in whose lifetime people with his shade of skin were denied the right to vote and to use public accommodations - who is now on the cusp of the presidency. It says something good about America, and I would like to have been able to dwell on it.
But no. Once again, it's all about Hillary Clinton, who delivered the most abrasive, self-absorbed, selfish, delusional, emasculating and extortionate political speech I've heard in a long time. And I've left out some adjectives, just to be polite.
Here's an interesting point for you. Barack Obama's speech, which featured a long and gracious nod to Clinton toward the beginning, was posted on various websites as early as 8:10pm East coast time. That means that Clinton - who didn't start speaking until 9:31pm, noticeably missing her introductory cue - and her staff had more than an hour to read Obama's speech and see that he was going to be more than kind to her.
But Clinton, who did not post her speech in advance, gave Obama a much briefer and more perfunctory nod. She congratulated him on his well-run campaign, but not on his victory, which is historic and assured. She told her crowd that, though she is now defeated, she "will be making no decisions tonight." She urged her voters - naturally nudged up to 18 million, which exaggerates the matter by about a half a million votes - to visit her website and send her messages, a piece of demagoguery that merely ensures that a week hence, if she wants to, she'll be able to say, "more than 10 million of my supporters have written to encourage me to go on to Denver". And speaking of the convention city, when her audience began chanting its name, she did not of course try to stop them and say that a convention fight was not in the interest of party unity.
What's her game? It's this, I think. It's not merely to be vice president. Although apparently it is that. I take it she and Bill have decided that being Obama's vice-president for eight years is the most plausible path to the presidency. But she did not on Tuesday night merely try to make a case for herself as a good vice-presidential candidate. She held a rhetorical knife to Obama's throat and said, in not so many words: I'm still calling some shots, buddy. You offer me the vice-presidency, or I walk away. But she has also forced Obama into a situation whereby if he chooses her now, he looks weak. So that's the choice she is hoping to impose on the nominee: don't choose me, and Bill and I will subtly work to see that you lose; choose me, and look like a weakling who can't lead the party without the Clintons after all. Now that's putting the interests of the party first, isn't it?
Democrats had better understand what this means, and they'd better not kid themselves. With any person other than a Clinton, this whole thing would have been over in late February - that is, any other candidate who lost 11 primaries in a row and ran out of money would have been shamed out of the race at that point. Or if not then, after May 6 (North Carolina and Indiana), when it became obvious that she could not come within 100 delegates of Obama, no matter what happened with Florida and Michigan.
But the Clintons know no shame, and more importantly, there has been no referee who could end this game, no one who could say to a Clinton, "Enough now." Well, Democrats have to say it. Now. Enough.
I really wanted to write a happy piece tonight. I wanted to write about Obama's amazing victory and about Clinton's tenacity being finally tempered by an acceptance of reality - reality that she'd lost and reality that, while there are indeed good arguments for her being on the ticket, the person who won the nominee has the right to choose the running mate.
Obama, after a slowish start, ended up giving a good, fiery speech aimed at John McCain. And McCain's speech, though flat in delivery, laid out his themes reasonably well. A race between these two men will be a race between two people who - whatever you think of their politics - are presenting substantive cases to the country and asking the people to choose. That's going to be a good show. But someone has to send that sore loser on the sidelines off to the showers once and for all.'
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Hillary had a better chance at beating McCain. Its a shame0
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down_ski wrote:Hillary had a better chance at beating McCain. Its a shame
I don't see how either one of them can't landslide McCain.If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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Abookamongstthemany wrote:I don't see how either one of them can't landslide McCain.
Landslide? Have you seen the recent polls? It will be close...but if the Iraq continues to improve by November. Obama has no chance.0 -
down_ski wrote:Landslide? Have you seen the recent polls? It will be close...but if the Iraq continues to improve by November. Obama has no chance.
This election is there for the Dems to take. They can only lose it by beating themselves trying so hard to prove how republican lite they are...which is usually the case.If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde0 -
down_ski wrote:Landslide? Have you seen the recent polls? It will be close...but if the Iraq continues to improve by November. Obama has no chance.
If the Iraq continues to improve? Yep, I reckon in a year or two we'll all be booking holidays to Iraq and drinking pina colada's on the Persian gulf.
Meanwhile..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7432587.stm
'21:49 GMT, Monday, 2 June 2008 22:49 UK
Nine killed by Mosul suicide bomb
Nine people have been killed by a suicide car bomb attack in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, police say.
Nearly 50 others were wounded by the blast, which targeted the provincial police headquarters in the city centre.
Four policemen were among those killed as an explosives-laden car exploded near a checkpoint outside the compound about 2000 local time, police said.
No group has claimed responsibility for the attack but Mosul is the last major urban stronghold of al-Qaeda in Iraq.
The US military and Iraqi troops launched an offensive to clear the city - 390 km (240 miles) north of Baghdad - of Sunni militants last month.
Washington says violence against its troops in Iraq is at a four-year low and believes al-Qaeda is on the defensive in the country.
But the US believes the group still retains the capability of instigating high-profile car bombs and suicide attacks in and around Mosul.'0 -
No way.. America is more sexist than racist.. Obama is young and fresh. I can't see Hillary winning by much against McCain. I think Obama has the better chance.down_ski wrote:Hillary had a better chance at beating McCain. Its a shame
Seriously.. Did we need 24 years of Clinton/Bush?0 -
LikeAnOcean wrote:No way.. America is more sexist than racist.. Obama is young and fresh. I can't see Hillary winning by much against McCain. I think Obama has the better chance.
Seriously.. Did we need 24 years of Clinton/Bush?
Yep, let's vote in Obama so we can change up the last name but keep the same shitty foreign and largely the same domestic policies!If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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Her speech seemed like she was conceding. Once it's official, Obama will take down McCain.PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
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I love how people call her a "fucking bitch" as if that's not as offensive as calling Obama a "fucking nigger."Jam out with your clam out.0
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If it is, can she take Obama and McCain with her? That'd be neat.Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.0
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How many millions did she spend again? And her backers?
I think I'd ride it out til the end too in fairness.The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you0 -
what exactly is she waiting for?0
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Byrnzie wrote:If the Iraq continues to improve? Yep, I reckon in a year or two we'll all be booking holidays to Iraq and drinking pina colada's on the Persian gulf.
Meanwhile..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7432587.stm
'21:49 GMT, Monday, 2 June 2008 22:49 UK
Nine killed by Mosul suicide bomb
Nine people have been killed by a suicide car bomb attack in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, police say.
Nearly 50 others were wounded by the blast, which targeted the provincial police headquarters in the city centre.
Four policemen were among those killed as an explosives-laden car exploded near a checkpoint outside the compound about 2000 local time, police said.
No group has claimed responsibility for the attack but Mosul is the last major urban stronghold of al-Qaeda in Iraq.
The US military and Iraqi troops launched an offensive to clear the city - 390 km (240 miles) north of Baghdad - of Sunni militants last month.
Washington says violence against its troops in Iraq is at a four-year low and believes al-Qaeda is on the defensive in the country.
But the US believes the group still retains the capability of instigating high-profile car bombs and suicide attacks in and around Mosul.'
yeah really improve by november he he he maybe 50yrs from now ....jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
down_ski wrote:Landslide? Have you seen the recent polls? It will be close...but if the Iraq continues to improve by November. Obama has no chance.
Looks like Obama may be in with a chance then...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24962128
3 GIs killed during small-arms attack in Iraq
Soldiers targeted in restive Sunni town; mass grave discovered elsewhere
8:13 a.m. ET June 4, 2008
BAGHDAD - Three American soldiers have been killed in a small-arms fire attack in northern Iraq, the U.S. military said on Wednesday.
A brief statement said the soldiers died Wednesday in Hawija, a restive Sunni Arab town about 150 miles north of Baghdad.
The soldiers' names are being withheld until their families are notified.
The deaths came as Iraqi villagers and soldiers unearthed at least 13 bodies from a shallow, dusty grave in farmland south of Baghdad. The U.S. military also said Wednesday it found another 10 bodies in a sewer shaft east of the capital.
Associated Press Television News footage showed Iraqi troops and civilians digging in dusty soil in a deserted agricultural area on the outskirts of Latifiyah, about 20 miles south of Baghdad. At least three severely decomposed bodies could be seen unearthed from side-by-side graves. One had a turban or bandage tied crudely around his head...0 -
Hilary wants the presidency so bad its a little freaky.0
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No...we do not want, need or even deserve that.LikeAnOcean wrote:Seriously.. Did we need 24 years of Clinton/Bush?All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0 -
she is a fucking bitch. Its just an honest assessment of her as a person. A vicious, evil cunt. Would you prefer i just called her an asshole? Perhaps a mother fucker? A vile, conniving, worthless sack of shit of a person? I'm sorry i dont use more gender neutral terms, but they mean the same thing to me.
SHe's read the Prince too many times. Its like she worships that book. She will do whatever it takes to get what she wants0 -
MrSmith wrote:she is a fucking bitch. Its just an honest assessment of her as a person. A vicious, evil cunt. Would you prefer i just called her an asshole? Perhaps a mother fucker? A vile, conniving, worthless sack of shit of a person? I'm sorry i dont use more gender neutral terms, but they mean the same thing to me.
SHe's read the Prince too many times. Its like she worships that book. She will do whatever it takes to get what she wants
I was gonna use the words 'fucking cunt' but thought better of it after having just returned from a two week ban. Although I fully endorse your sentiments good Sir! The bitch needs to be tarred and feathered.0
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