I think Ed was right

RolandTD20Kdrummer

If you're looking to be strengthened/challenged/expanded on a hypothesis, it's an interesting tool.

I rarely if ever talk about this type of stuff face to face with people at length, if they disagree I just drop it once people get angst and borderline combative.. It's just too uncomfortable for my liking. People are stuck in what their realities are. Me I'm open to heaing about anything. I'm comfortable with it. Some people freak out.

LikeAnOcean

Byrnzie wrote:

I read about the interview with Eddie Vedder some time back where the interviewer asked him if he ever posted anything on this message board. Ed then spoke about the fact that he corrected someone on the lyrics to one of his songs. The person he corrected came back with the reply 'Nope'.
I think Ed then said something to the effect of life being too short. I.e, trying to debate/discuss anything with most people on a message board is like pissing in the wind.
Now it supposedly took Ed just one or two posts to figure this out.
I think that after 2 years of my posting on here, and over 10,000 posts later, I've realised he was right.

The last post on the 'Slow death in Gaza' thread sums it up perfectly. Some people choose to be blind, deaf, and dumb.

Not that this applies to everyone of course. There's some really intreresting, and smart characters on the M.T, and I've loved reading their posts these past two years.
It's just fucking frustrating when everyday you encounter one of the 'nope' brigade...one of the soundbite brigade. People with nothing to bring to the table. It kind of throws a dampner on things, and makes you think that we really are just pissing in the wind.

Whaddya reckon?

I remember it was a thread about the lyrics for Unemployable, whether it was "scared of life" or "scared alive". I remember he talked about it at on one of the '06 boots and being the nerd I am I remember posting in that thread.. I really hope I wasn't the asshole who argued with him. I thought it was "scared of live".. It really is "scared alive".

Byrnzie

mammasan wrote:

What boggles my mind about this board is that people are viewed as blind, deaf, uninformed, sheeple, or even unintelligent simply because they don't agree with the majority of posters. Just because someone does not share your view or opinion on an issue or event does not make them any less aware or informed than you. We all have different opinion and views and by sharing them we have the opportunity to expand our understanding of the world. By shutting our minds, eyes and ears to those views and opinions is to be misinformed and unaware.

I didn't say that I thought anyone was blind, deaf, or uninformed, simply because they don't agree with me.

Byrnzie

Colorsblending9 wrote:

And furthermore: the amount of blatant Anti-Israel crap posted on this board, a lot of which comes from blatant anti-Israel sources, makes it clear to me.

If someone posts something which you believe derives from a 'blatant Anti-Israel source' then you can easily check the legitimacy of the information by refering to other sources to check it's validity. Just saying that Chomsky, or Norman Finkelstein, or the U.N, or Amnesty, or whoever, is an 'anti-Israel' source, doesn't cut it.

Colorsblending9 wrote:

Please criticize Israel's policies, (like most Israelis do), but don't hold Israel to such a ridiculous double standard.

You don't think Israel is being held to a double-standard - to it's advantage - by the western media? The evidence is there for all to see. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/ap-report.html

Anyway, back to topic.

Byrnzie

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

It's not just message boards...it's people in general....life. I still like putting my opinions out there and having the chance to debate them against differing ones. It tests what I think and how I feel instead of just thinking a certain way and closing myself off to other views. And it makes you look deeper into why you think they way you do and forces you to really get into the thick of things, uild a better understanding and see what your support of whatever idea really includes.

True.

Fahka

I can see how ed would feel that way.. but that was just one dumb person.


I think there is plenty deep meaningful discussion to be had via this board.. its just a matter of the who and what... So to deem the whole thing useless from one experience is kind of silly IMO


Theres no black and white

mammasan

Byrnzie wrote:

I didn't say that I thought anyone was blind, deaf, or uninformed, simply because they don't agree with me.

And I never said you did.

kenny olav

how weird would it be if Ed was on here, especially AMT?

the only message board i've heard of that the band members actually post on, is that of The Cardigans (Swedish band who had a 90's hit with 'Lovefool', fyi). they are actually a pretty cool band, and about five years back i used to go on there quite a bit, but it got stale. their bass player was on A LOT, just chattin it up with fans... nothing too serious. occasionally the singer Nina Persson was on. but they're not a mega huge band, so i see how they could keep it low key. they even used their full names as their usernames. i'm sure it would be total madness if pearl jam members posted on here.

kenny olav

sorry, kinda went off topic...

to quote a shitty song by 311: fuck the naysayers, coz they don't mean a thing.

Byrnzie

Byrnzie wrote:

True.

I just realised that I could be accused of the same offence for my above reply. Is a 'true' any better or worse than a 'nope'?

angryyoungman

Byrnzie wrote:

I read about the interview with Eddie Vedder some time back where the interviewer asked him if he ever posted anything on this message board. Ed then spoke about the fact that he corrected someone on the lyrics to one of his songs. The person he corrected came back with the reply 'Nope'.
I think Ed then said something to the effect of life being too short. I.e, trying to debate/discuss anything with most people on a message board is like pissing in the wind.
Now it supposedly took Ed just one or two posts to figure this out.
I think that after 2 years of my posting on here, and over 10,000 posts later, I've realised he was right.

The last post on the 'Slow death in Gaza' thread sums it up perfectly. Some people choose to be blind, deaf, and dumb.

Not that this applies to everyone of course. There's some really intreresting, and smart characters on the M.T, and I've loved reading their posts these past two years.
It's just fucking frustrating when everyday you encounter one of the 'nope' brigade...one of the soundbite brigade. People with nothing to bring to the table. It kind of throws a dampner on things, and makes you think that we really are just pissing in the wind.

Whaddya reckon?

i agree which for the most part is why i dont get involved on the moving train forum, sea biscuit pisses in the wind less

Abookamongstthemany

Byrnzie wrote:

True.

Ha! I was reading back through this thread and saw my reply from earlier....and jeez at the typos, it was a complete mess. I'm glad you could decipher through it to get some sort of meaning out of it enough to say 'true'

So anyways, I fixed it up a bit to be more clear.

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5516206&postcount=21