McCain says.....
ajedigecko
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that america has become a nation of whiners. i agree with him completely on this topic.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
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sounds like he's whining about it...
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
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Your first mistake was comparing the two threads... The Obama one was about a statement that can actually create discussion about an issue, but this one is just an extremely simple statement.
Your post is pretty black & white and will only be taken two ways... some people will be insulted that a presidential candidate is calling the country a bunch of whiners, but most of us do agree with the statement to a point.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
BTW, his campaign logo and colors are pretty uninspiring- you can definitely see he is directing himself with plain people that like boredom..
Wow, reading the whole quote just shows how out of touch that rich people are with the rest of the country... He's talking in big picture terms, and completely missing how our economic mess is hurting average people.
From former senator Phil Gramm, McCain's economic advisor:
"You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession," he said, noting that growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices. "We may have a recession; we haven't had one yet."
"We have sort of become a nation of whiners," he said. "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline" despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.
"We've never been more dominant; we've never had more natural advantages than we have today," he said. "We have benefited greatly" from the globalization of the economy in the last 30 years.
edit: Gramm in all his delusion also said today that without John McCain, the United States would have lost the war on Iraq.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
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The McCain campaign is working hard to distance itself from statements made by economic adviser Phil Gramm describing the current economic downturn as a "mental recession" and saying America had "sort of become a nation of whiners."
But in an initial statement published by Politico and then, seemingly, removed from its site, a McCain campaign aide actually stood by Gramm's remarks, saying the interview as a whole was merely meant as a preview of the Senator's economic agenda.
"Mr. Gramm was simply saying that we are laying out the economic plan this week," the piece quoted a "McCain official" as saying. "The plan is comprehensive, providing immediate near-term relief for Americans hurting today as well as longer-term solutions to get our economy back on track, secure our energy future and deliver jobs, prosperity and opportunity for the next generation. We're laying out that plan this week with an emphasis on the critical importance of job creation, and it's been a great success so far."
Only after the fallout from Gramm's statement did the McCain campaign fully backtrack.
"Phil Gramm's comments are not representative of John McCain's views," read a campaign statement. "John McCain travels the country every day talking to Americans who are hurting, feeling pain at the pump and worrying about how they'll pay their mortgage. That's why he has a realistic plan to deliver immediate relief at the gas pump, grow our economy and put Americans back to work."
The two statements - the first one issued to Politico and the one offered to the press list this morning - are diametrically different. And they seem to reflect recognition, by the McCain camp, that Gramm's remark on the economy is simply un-spinnable.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/10/mccain-campaign-initially_n_111929.html
Macho bullshit.
as i have given it more thought, i do think we are a nation of whiners only because we have become cynical towards their guidance and supposed leadership.
Tell me what is good about the economy right now, Mr. Dickhead Gramm? Sell me on the idea that we have a glorious booming, growing economy.
Here's something else. Generally speaking, isn't it a good idea to have your policy advisor actually agree with your actual policies when they speak for you? So, is this how John McCain feels?
These stupid old rich men. They don't know jack shit.
end of rant.
Somehow I think they may be rich because they do know something.
I was ranting...
however they don't know we're either in or entering a recession.
I'd say that makes them pretty stupid.
in your post it does not say that Mccain supported the statement but it does say that a McCain aide said it. lets be fair, if an Obama supporter said something liek this we woudl be saying that Obama did not say it. do you remember that whole tread about teh muslims not being allowed behind Obama for that photo-op. most people here said that this was not Obama doing that. we must say the same thing here.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
He made the comment after spending several hours reading the Message Pit
Dick
Or the "Kiss Obama's Ass Forum"
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/X/e/1/mccain_bush_brokeback.jpg
that was a disturbing picture. why did his hand need to be that low and his eyes closed?
kind of made me recall the time when i was a child and opened my christmas gift. it was a gi joe air craft carrier.
That was a kickass gift !!
http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/wishbook/ussflagg.jpg