U.S. accused of Silencing Scientists on polar bears, climate change

JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
This really doesn't surprise me, since they did this to NASA scientists regarding climate change.

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U.S. accused of silencing experts on polar bears, climate change
Scientists told not to speak officially at conferences
Jane Kay, Chronicle Environment Writer
Friday, March 9, 2007

The federal agency responsible for protecting Arctic polar bears has barred two Alaska scientists from speaking about polar bears, climate change or sea ice at international meetings in the next few weeks, a move that environmentalists say is censorship.
The rule was issued last month by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service but was made public this week. The federal government has proposed listing the polar bear as a threatened species, and the wildlife agency is receiving public comment on the proposal.
"It's a gag order," said Deborah Williams, a former high-level Interior Department official in Anchorage, Alaska, who received documents on Wednesday from Alaska scientists who chose to remain unnamed. The documents make the subjects of polar bears, climate change and sea ice off limits to all scientists who haven't been cleared to speak on the topics.
Two of the memos are copies of those prepared for Craig Perham and Janet E. Hohn, who are traveling to Russia and Norway this month and in April. The scientists "will not be speaking on or responding to these issues'' of climate change, polar bears and sea ice, the memos say. Before any trip, such a memo must be sent to the administrator of the Fish and Wildlife Service in Washington.
According to the memos, agency scientists must obtain a memorandum designating which official, if any, is allowed to respond to questions, particularly about polar bears, and include "a statement of assurance that these individuals understand the Administration's position on these issues.''
Tina Kreisher, communications director of the Interior Department, which oversees the wildlife agency, said in an interview Thursday that the government isn't trying to prevent scientists from talking about their findings -- but doesn't want them to make policy statements.
At a news conference, Fish and Wildlife Director H. Dale Hall denied that the memos were a form of censorship. He described the content of the documents as part of a policy to establish an agenda and the appropriate spokesperson for international meetings.
Considering the high-profile nature of climate change and the issues that might come up, it was prudent to know ahead of time what everyone was going to discuss, he said.
"We are not gagging scientists,'' said Hall. They can speak with other scientists at international gatherings in conversations or at dinner but may not speak for the United States government in a formal setting, he said. The agency would frown on their going to news conferences in a host country, he added.
When asked for the administration's position with which the Alaska scientists would have to be familiar, Hall said, "The Earth is warming, and we have to understand how to deal with that and to slow down greenhouse gases and manage the changes that will occur.''
The agency has taken steps to evaluate whether the polar bear should be listed and has significant questions about scientific studies, including those dealing with when sea ice will melt and the effects on the bear, he said.
Environmentalists who petitioned for the new protections for polar bears hope that a listing would force mandatory limits to greenhouse gases. At present, the administration prefers voluntary programs to cut emissions and has taken the position that carbon dioxide, the predominant greenhouse gas, can't be regulated as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act.
Kieran Suckling, policy director of the Center for Biological Diversity, one of the groups that submitted the petition to list the polar bear, said muzzling of scientists at international meetings isn't appropriate.
"That type of memo might be appropriate for the State Department and purely political issues," he said. "What we're dealing with here is science. How many polar bears are there? Why are they going extinct? What is the cause of the ice melting? It's completely inappropriate to ban scientists from talking about science.''
Williams, an attorney who received the documents about rules for scientists' speech, was special assistant to the secretary of the Interior under the Clinton administration for six years. She now heads an environmental consulting firm, Alaska Conservation Solutions.
"I worked very closely with Fish and Wildlife and other Interior agencies, and a memo like this is truly inconceivable," she said. "This is an issue of international significance, and you want your professional public servants to be able to discuss these issues. It is unconscionable to gag them.''
The Bush administration has been under fire for several years for allegedly trying to curb the speech of government scientists who produce studies that contradict the administration's positions, particularly on global warming.
Scientists in the Fish and Wildlife Service, the U.S. Geological Survey and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have been chastised for speaking to reporters, and some have been asked to submit papers and lectures to high-level managers for review. Political appointees at NASA have turned down journalists' requests for interviews with scientists, and the Minerals Management Service has allowed journalists to interview scientists, including on polar bear observations, only if the agency could record them.
The agencies challenged scientists over studies revealing negative effects of oil development on the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and the drownings of polar bears possibly associated with shrinking sea ice.
The beloved furry Arctic animal has become a symbol for the dire effects of a warming world. The plight of the bears, including the deaths of polar bears observed floating in Arctic Ocean waters that may be attributed to the long swim from the diminishing sea ice to land, were reported by The Chronicle last year and captured worldwide attention in former Vice President Al Gore's documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth.''

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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    old news fore sure ...

    but really, it's worked for them ... there are still many people who still don't buy the concept of climate change ... so, whatever tactics they used - it's allowed them to go unaccountable for 6+ years ...
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    How can they prevent them from speaking.....UNLESS those scientist work for the government and the trip to the international conference is funded by it as well.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Drew263Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    polaris wrote:
    old news fore sure ...

    but really, it's worked for them ... there are still many people who still don't buy the concept of climate change ... so, whatever tactics they used - it's allowed them to go unaccountable for 6+ years ...


    I buy into climate change. I'm just not willing to blame America and/or human beings. Especially when China (talk to someone that has been there) gets zero blame or no one even discusses how our climate change compares with the warming on Mars, Pluto, and Venus.

    Until the subject is fairly discussed..I'm dismissing it as partisan bullshit politics.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Drew263 wrote:
    I buy into climate change. I'm just not willing to blame America and/or human beings. Especially when China (talk to someone that has been there) gets zero blame or no one even discusses how our climate change compares with the warming on Mars, Pluto, and Venus.

    Until the subject is fairly discussed..I'm dismissing it as partisan bullshit politics.

    I haven't seen a single person blaming the US. Nor any scientist blaming human beings.

    It would be nice if there weren't any politics involved in the whole debate. It would be nice if we could take a step back look at the facts, take necessary measure, not only because of this threat but simply because we will not be able to sustain our modern way of life forever and it would be a wise move to invest in new technologies, new ways now instead of looking for possible solutions when the problem might be beyond repair.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • WMAWMA Posts: 175
    From today:

    http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=841
    Washington, DC — Federal climate, weather and marine scientists will be subject to new restrictions as to what they can say to the media or in public, according to agency documents released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). Under rules posted last week, these federal scientists must obtain agency pre-approval to speak or write, whether on or off-duty, concerning any scientific topic deemed “of official interest.”
    ...

    the new order forbids agency scientists from communicating any relevant information, even if prepared and delivered on their own time as private citizens, which has not been approved by the official chain-of-command:

    Any “fundamental research communication” must “before the communication occurs” be submitted to and approved by the designated “head of the operating unit.” While the directive states that approval may not be withheld “based on policy, budget, or management implications of the research,” it does not define these terms and limits any appeal to within Commerce;

    National Weather Service employees are allowed only “as part of their routine responsibilities to communicate information about the weather to the public”; and

    Scientists must give the Commerce Department at least two weeks “advance notice” of any written, oral or audiovisual presentation prepared on their own time if it “is a matter of official interest to the Department because it relates to Department programs, policies or operations.”
    ...
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Drew263 wrote:
    I buy into climate change. I'm just not willing to blame America and/or human beings. Especially when China (talk to someone that has been there) gets zero blame or no one even discusses how our climate change compares with the warming on Mars, Pluto, and Venus.

    Until the subject is fairly discussed..I'm dismissing it as partisan bullshit politics.

    great attitude ... we produce more gHg's then any other country in the world and you want to make this a geo-political issue?

    it's why we don't get anywhere ...

    well, like i said before - it's time we are working on solutions with people who really care ... the time for debate is long past
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    polaris wrote:
    well, like i said before - it's time we are working on solutions with people who really care ... the time for debate is long past
    This sounds so frighteningly like something Ronald Reagan would have said during the Cold War or George Bush would have said after 9/11. All you were missing is you're for us or against us.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    surferdude wrote:
    This sounds so frighteningly like something Ronald Reagan would have said during the Cold War or George Bush would have said after 9/11. All you were missing is you're for us or against us.

    if u see that parallel, that's fine by me ... i do know that the contexts are completely different ... what i also know is that with ALL the information available to oneself now - trying to convince someone that climate change is real now is going to be difficult ...
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