Global Warming: Hysteria Vs. Skepticism

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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Obi Once wrote:
    I stopped reading here, did I miss something interesting?

    actually, i believe he puts one of these posts up once in a while and when it gets shot down a la sunday silence ... he disappears ...
  • Obi Once
    Obi Once Posts: 918
    There is a x pages long thread about global warming already, whats the point starting the same discussion in a new thread?

    Oh btw the disappearing part, does it involve magic? I love magic!
    your light's reflected now
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Obi Once wrote:
    Oh btw the disappearing part, does it involve magic? I love magic!

    <Loudly clapping and giggling uncontrollably> More magic!!
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    polaris wrote:
    ... secondly, like i said above, climate change will cause more extreme weather events, like what is happening now in europe - is this particular storm directly caused by greenhouse gases? - can't say for sure but when you look at the bigger picture, there is definitely a pattern of cause and effect
    And climate change was also behind the relative hurrican free season on the east coast in 2006. The lack of huricanes saved millions of dollars and most likely a few lives.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • YourBuddy
    YourBuddy Posts: 59
    For any global warming believers here, explain why the state of florida orange crops are being lost to frost...i mean shouldn't it be hotter there if global warming was in fact occuring
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    YourBuddy wrote:
    For any global warming believers here, explain why the state of florida orange crops are being lost to frost...i mean shouldn't it be hotter there if global warming was in fact occuring
    Global warming is a misnomer. It should correctly be referred to as global climate change. Humans affect global climate change primarily through the greenhouse effect. It is unknown how much of an impact that the greenhouse effect has on global climate change.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • YourBuddy
    YourBuddy Posts: 59
    surferdude wrote:
    Global warming is a misnomer. It should correctly be referred to as global climate change. Humans affect global climate change primarily through the greenhouse effect. It is unknown how much of an impact that the greenhouse effect has on global climate change.

    either theory is unproven, the earth has gone through so many climate shifts before humans even walked the earth...i dont believe we are causeing much of a shift.

    Think about all the gases that are relesed naturally through volcanic eruptions and such
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    surferdude wrote:
    Global warming is a misnomer. It should correctly be referred to as global climate change.


    well put!



    and polaris, thanks for the link....http://www.thestar.com/News/article/172778. some good info
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    YourBuddy wrote:
    either theory is unproven, the earth has gone through so many climate shifts before humans even walked the earth...i dont believe we are causeing much of a shift.

    Think about all the gases that are relesed naturally through volcanic eruptions and such
    I think you misunderstand the term "theory". In science a theory is as pretty much a given. There has been loads of evidence and scientific inquiry that agrees that the initial hypothesis holds.

    Yes, the world has gone through many climate shifts before. No one is disputing this, the differnce is that there has never been a species on this earth that has the ability and the record to disturb the environment to the extent as humans. Not even close. Never before has this amount of greenhouse gasses through the actions of a species before.

    Although volcanic and geological events do in fact release greenhouse gasses, the majority of gasses released is nothing more than water vapour. There are spikes in the temperature record that do account for major geological events, but compared to the accumulated amount of human produced green house gasses, they do not alter the atmsopheric composition in anywhere near the same amount as humans.

    Lastly, do you disagree with the greenhouse effect and greenhouse gasses or do you think that is a load of hot air too? Excuse the pun :)
  • bryanfury
    bryanfury Posts: 461
    YourBuddy wrote:
    For any global warming believers here, explain why the state of florida orange crops are being lost to frost...i mean shouldn't it be hotter there if global warming was in fact occuring

    yikes...
    those undecided, needn't have faith to be free
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    YourBuddy wrote:
    For any global warming believers here, explain why the state of florida orange crops are being lost to frost...i mean shouldn't it be hotter there if global warming was in fact occuring
    Climate change is a better term. Global temperatures are rising but each area of the world may be effected differently. Some drier, some wetter, some warmer, some cooler, but the global average will and is rising. Lastly, climate change will result in more extreme weather. Extreme cold and storms are consistent with climate change.

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