How To Make Money Off Global Warming?

worldworld Posts: 266
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
Im sure there will be many ways to make some moolah off this global warming thing. I wonder if the cavemen took advantage when their climate changed, any ideas?

Im going to try to figure out how high the oceans will raise and buy land where the new coast will be. All that sweet new ocean front property will be mine.
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  • I'm sure Al Gore could get you some federal funding now that the demowhacko's have control of congress.
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,394
    Uh huh. You all can make money off of global warming trying to come up with better vaccines/cures for new diseases, finding ways to save all the species that will be threatened/dying, hey maybe even marketing boat houses for everyone whos living in an area thats going to soon be underwater!!
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Invest your money buying land in inland deserts? I mean, you can speculate that it'll be the future beach front properties.
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  • worldworld Posts: 266
    Uh huh. You all can make money off of global warming trying to come up with better vaccines/cures for new diseases, finding ways to save all the species that will be threatened/dying, hey maybe even marketing boat houses for everyone whos living in an area thats going to soon be underwater!!

    Our species has gone through MANY climate changes a lot more drastic than what we are seeing now. The humans have always advanced as a species throughout them all, you underestimate us.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    buy stock in air conditioner companies
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • world wrote:
    Our species has gone through MANY climate changes a lot more drastic than what we are seeing now. The humans have always advanced as a species throughout them all, you underestimate us.

    how many people will perish though? this is preventable
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  • worldworld Posts: 266
    how many people will perish though? this is preventable

    Since when did we care about people perishing? Look at Darfur, their is genocide going on and the United Nations still wont recognize it. Also, global climate change is not preventable, its been going on since Day 1 on Earth.
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  • world wrote:
    Im sure there will be many ways to make some moolah off this global warming thing. I wonder if the cavemen took advantage when their climate changed, any ideas?

    Im going to try to figure out how high the oceans will raise and buy land where the new coast will be. All that sweet new ocean front property will be mine.


    i like the way you think.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    soo ... the war on terror is real but global warming is some made up thing by treehuggers who got nothing better to do?
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    polaris wrote:
    soo ... the war on terror is real but global warming is some made up thing by treehuggers who got nothing better to do?

    can we quote you on that one ;)
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    chopitdown wrote:
    can we quote you on that one ;)

    sure ... :) ... part of my plan to infiltrate those on the right!
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    polaris wrote:
    sure ... :) ... part of my plan to infiltrate those on the right!

    well played
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    from stopglobalwarming.org

    Chase Utley
    Location: PA - 19148
    Marching Since: January 3, 2007
    I'm marching because I know how important it is for all of us to face the reality of global warming. It's real, it's a danger and it threatens the well-being of all of us. I love America but I don't love how wasteful we are. With five percent of the world's population, we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy. We need to address global warming in a serious and meaningful way. All of us, not just those of us marching, need to take steps NOW to conserve. We need to think outside the corporate box on this - to solar, wind power, hybrids. We need a major shift in our mindset on what makes up the American dream. It's not two SUV's in every garage, it's creating a good and sustainable life for all of us for generations to come. For me, doing so will start with the very first step I take on this march. This is only the beginning.
  • I want to try to get in touch with some of the people who convinced companies to spend billions for Y2K protection... They have to have some ideas on this.

    I want to invent an air conditioned jacket that people can wear walking from their air conditioned houses to their air conditioned cars.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    how many people will perish though? this is preventable

    All of them. Everybody dies.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    polaris wrote:
    soo ... the war on terror is real but global warming is some made up thing by treehuggers who got nothing better to do?

    No - just the preventable part is made up.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    There’s a lot of talk about a new arctic shipping passage that will eventually open up in (disputed) Canadian water once we can melt all those damn ancient ice flows. We could look into what companies will dominate that route and get in early.
  • worldworld Posts: 266
    I want to try to get in touch with some of the people who convinced companies to spend billions for Y2K protection... They have to have some ideas on this.

    I want to invent an air conditioned jacket that people can wear walking from their air conditioned houses to their air conditioned cars.

    lmao, forget those "Pump" shoes. I want "AC Shoes" to keep my feet from getting sweaty.
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  • worldworld Posts: 266
    polaris wrote:
    Chase Utley
    Location: PA - 19148
    Marching Since: January 3, 2007
    I'm marching because I know how important it is for all of us to face the reality of global warming. It's real, it's a danger and it threatens the well-being of all of us. I love America but I don't love how wasteful we are. With five percent of the world's population, we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy. We need to address global warming in a serious and meaningful way. All of us, not just those of us marching, need to take steps NOW to conserve. We need to think outside the corporate box on this - to solar, wind power, hybrids. We need a major shift in our mindset on what makes up the American dream. It's not two SUV's in every garage, it's creating a good and sustainable life for all of us for generations to come. For me, doing so will start with the very first step I take on this march. This is only the beginning.

    I think your wrong with a lot of these ideas. I have no idea what this is: "we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy." That statement sounds very strange and dumb. Isnt wind energy? How do we consume that? Isnt wind unlimited?

    Also, corporations will save any type of oil problem. Why would a corporation ignore vast profits from having a great car that would save us so much money at the pump? Corporations will battle to have the fastest and best looking non-gas car. Hybrids are availible from many car corporations right now, and the future is bright from these companies if you take a look at their concept cars. Corporations will discover the cure for cancer and aids, corporations will sell and battle each other for the cheapest, biggest, fastest, and best looking renewable energy SUV/sportscar/luxurycar.
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  • I want to invent an air conditioned jacket that people can wear walking from their air conditioned houses to their air conditioned cars.

    Too late

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  • world wrote:
    I think your wrong with a lot of these ideas. I have no idea what this is: "we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy." That statement sounds very strange and dumb. Isnt wind energy? How do we consume that? Isnt wind unlimited?

    Maybe a graph will help you comprehend:

    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_pri_ene_con_mil_ton_oil_equ_sha_of_tot-tonnes-oil-equivalent-share-total&b_printable=1
    world wrote:
    Also, corporations will save any type of oil problem. Why would a corporation ignore vast profits from having a great car that would save us so much money at the pump? Corporations will battle to have the fastest and best looking non-gas car. Hybrids are availible from many car corporations right now, and the future is bright from these companies if you take a look at their concept cars. Corporations will discover the cure for cancer and aids, corporations will sell and battle each other for the cheapest, biggest, fastest, and best looking renewable energy SUV/sportscar/luxurycar.

    Corporations have no interest in solving problems, though they can be tools to that end. Spirit of battle collapses when competition is destroyed by a monopoly, or oligopoly. The oil industry is an oligopoly with an expensive infastructure entrenched in the production of oil. They do have an interest in keeping their investment profitable. They have a monopoly over transportation fuel which has lead to windfall profits. No industry records larger profits.

    Wealth brings access to power and the ability to influence government policy, foreign and domestic. Big oil has lied to congress. Big oil has attempted to subvert science. Big oil manipulates supply for profit. And they are the White House. One mans "any type of oil problem" is not worth solving if the problem itself is profit to the bottom line of the deciders. If war is more profitable than science the corporate agenda will take the golden road. Conspiracy theories of WMDs, delusions of preaching governance overseas and ridding the world of evil must help some people sleep.

    People will solve all these problems you mentioned. Corporations can and should be used as tools. But they are not worthy of fundamental praise as saviors.
  • worldworld Posts: 266
    Ah, I didnt know that energy was only just oil. Because energy can come from a hampster running in a wheel. Maybe the statement should read ""we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's oil."

    While I agree that the oil companies are a bunch of basterds, I think the car companies will make the changes. I really dont think Toyota and Honda give a shit if Exxon makes huge profits. I think Toyota and Honda want to make huge profits for themselves. Look at all the concept cars at the Detroit auto show. They include a plug-in electric GM car, a diesal-electric hybrid Honda truck, a bunch of hydrogen cars from various companies, and even a few hybrid sports cars and SUVs.

    Clearly the oil companies suck, but the car companies are placing their chips on fuel effecient autos. Every year, more and more hybrids are coming out. Car commercial now include bragging on having the most fuel effecient cars on the road. Its not because some CEO wants to save the planet, its because he looks at the profits.
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  • world wrote:
    Im sure there will be many ways to make some moolah off this global warming thing. I wonder if the cavemen took advantage when their climate changed, any ideas?

    Im going to try to figure out how high the oceans will raise and buy land where the new coast will be. All that sweet new ocean front property will be mine.
    You live in Chicago. If the glaciers melt than the warm ocean current will stop flowing to our hemisphere because of the amount of freshwater flowing southward. That means we're going to be in 6 feet of snow and cities as far north as yours might not / probably won't have a summer.

    Better start a wool coat business instead.
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  • worldworld Posts: 266
    You live in Chicago. If the glaciers melt than the warm ocean current will stop flowing to our hemisphere because of the amount of freshwater flowing southward. That means we're going to be in 6 feet of snow and cities as far north as yours might not / probably won't have a summer.

    Better start a wool coat business instead.

    So global warming will then give way to global cooling? That sound genious. Sell everyone shit to deal with the warmth, wait till cooling kicks in then sell them some warming shit.
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  • world wrote:
    Ah, I didnt know that energy was only just oil. Because energy can come from a hampster running in a wheel. Maybe the statement should read ""we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's oil."

    I suppose graphs can be tricky. The graph in my earlier post was primary energy consumption (total all major forms) converted into oil units for ease of comparison. Here is a breakdown by energy types:

    Coal:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_coa_con_mil_ton_oil_equ_sha_of_tot-tonnes-oil-equivalent-share-total&b_printable=1

    Electricity:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_ele_con-energy-electricity-consumption&b_printable=1

    Geothermal:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_geo_pow_use-energy-geothermal-power-use&b_printable=1

    Hydroelectricity Consumption:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_hyd_con_mil_ton_oil_equ_sha_of_tot-tonnes-oil-equivalent-share-total&b_printable=1

    Natural Gas:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_nat_gas_con_mil_ton_oil_equ_sha_of_tot-tonnes-oil-equivalent-share-total&b_printable=1

    Nuclear:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_nuc_con_mil_ton_oil_equ_sha_of_tot-tonnes-oil-equivalent-share-total&b_printable=1

    Oil:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_oil_con_mil_ton_sha_of_tot-consumption-million-tonnes-share-total&b_printable=1

    And, as you alluded to, wind:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_win_ene_ins-energy-wind-installation&b_printable=1

    Traditional fuel (wood, charcol, animal and plant waste)
    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/ene_tra_fue_con-energy-traditional-fuel-consumption&b_printable=1
  • worldworld Posts: 266
    No matter how many graphs you show me, this earth will never run out of energy. The statement "we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy or oil" when applied to actual science is incorrect. It is impossible to use up energy. The amount of energy we have on the planet will remain constant forever. If you want, we can go deeper and start a discussion about thermodynamics if that will help you understand.

    If you dont trust me, ill go find some research papers and get a few names of really old dead guys with names I cant pronounce or spell that can prove that "we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy" is wrong.
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  • world wrote:
    No matter how many graphs you show me, this earth will never run out of energy. The statement "we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy or oil" when applied to actual science is incorrect. It is impossible to use up energy. The amount of energy we have on the planet will remain constant forever. If you want, we can go deeper and start a discussion about thermodynamics if that will help you understand.

    If you dont trust me, ill go find some research papers and get a few names of really old dead guys with names I cant pronounce or spell that can prove that "we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy" is wrong.
    yes.

    "Fuel" would be a good choice of word,... but then again that depends heavily on if we and our politicians quit taking it up the ass from the non-renewable fuel industry. Biofuel, baby. Solar, hydro,.. lots of options that don't involve burning oil.
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  • world wrote:
    No matter how many graphs you show me, this earth will never run out of energy. The statement "we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy or oil" when applied to actual science is incorrect. It is impossible to use up energy. The amount of energy we have on the planet will remain constant forever. If you want, we can go deeper and start a discussion about thermodynamics if that will help you understand.

    If you dont trust me, ill go find some research papers and get a few names of really old dead guys with names I cant pronounce or spell that can prove that "we consume twenty-five percent of the planet's energy" is wrong.

    I understand thermodynamics, and that's a silly semantic argument that's just avoiding the truth. Technically you are correct, but the fact remains that the US is the greatest energy consumer.

    When energy in the form of stored chemical energy (fossil fuels) is converted to other forms of energy (mostly thermal) through combustion, it is effectively 'consumed'. It is no longer in a form that is useful to humans, so it can't be reused. The earth could absolutely run out of 'energy' in the form of fossil fuels, because once all that stored energy is converted to other forms, we don't get to use it again.
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