Does anybody else here feel this way?

ForestBrain

I hate waste. I hate it very much. I hate seeing trees chopped down for somebody's entertainment (i.e., making a raft so they can float on a lake, when they already have a plastic raft). I hate deer hunting. I hate killing animals for food when it isn't necessary. I mean, come on, America does not need to slaughter all of the animals they kill for food! And that "well, animals were overpopulate the country" doesn't work, because the animals are bread to be killed. I just hate it. I hate the unnecessary deaths.
I hate eating meat, I have never had a taste for it and every time I have eaten it, I think of the poor animal and lose my appetite. Is anybody else like this? Am I a weirdo?
(my family loves meat, and I have one sister who wants to try lamb, rabbit, goat, goose, duck...bleh, the savage)

I am not against using wood, I just hate to see it wasted, because trees are so beautiful and were I live there are not very many.

soulsinging

you peta people can take my meat when you pry it from my cold bloody fingers

as ron white says, i didnt crawl to the top of the food chain to eat fucking lettuce. however, i can understand why it bothers people and completely respect their desire not to eat it.

DriftingByTheStorm

Here is the problem:

I really dislike the thought of the poor murdered cows. Their bodies savagely severed from their heads (or vice versa, depends on your perception) ... and their internal organs removed and ground in to hot dogs, while their muscle is torn from the bone and chopped in to strip steaks, flank steaks, skirt stakes, top round, bottom round, t-bones, center cut fillets,porterhouses, tender loins, shoulder, and of course, the ubiquitous ground chuck ...

BUT

I FUCKING LOVE A GOOD BLOODY ASS HAMBURGER ... particularly with blue cheese and a nice smoked applewood bacon ...

???

Shit,
am i a savage?

Ahnimus

Yea, but...

The Aurochs no longer exist, so all we have are domesticated cows which depend on us for survival. We've been farming these creatures for so long that they could not survive without the farm environment.

Also, farming keeps this stuff alive as its important to us.

Bu2

I really love his arm muscle or his thigh, ripped apart by a car bomb. I especially love his brain toasted and sent back home, still warm.

The rib meat of a young, strapping soldier is to die for.

But then again, journalist meat is even tastier....it has a lot more fat on it.

Mind if I cut down a tree and build a fire to roast some Marines on?

hippiemom

ForestBrain wrote:

I hate waste. I hate it very much. I hate seeing trees chopped down for somebody's entertainment (i.e., making a raft so they can float on a lake, when they already have a plastic raft). I hate deer hunting. I hate killing animals for food when it isn't necessary. I mean, come on, America does not need to slaughter all of the animals they kill for food! And that "well, animals were overpopulate the country" doesn't work, because the animals are bread to be killed. I just hate it. I hate the unnecessary deaths.
I hate eating meat, I have never had a taste for it and every time I have eaten it, I think of the poor animal and lose my appetite. Is anybody else like this? Am I a weirdo?
(my family loves meat, and I have one sister who wants to try lamb, rabbit, goat, goose, duck...bleh, the savage)

I am not against using wood, I just hate to see it wasted, because trees are so beautiful and were I live there are not very many.

You're not a weirdo. I don't like waste, I don't like our whole consumerist culture that encourages it. I can't stand the mall, watching all those people wandering around buying a bunch of plastic crap that they don't need because they can't think of anything else to do that day. I hate seeing acres and acres of trees chopped down so that someone can build a development of houses that start at $500,000. Why do we need these houses? I don't notice people with half a million bucks wandering around homeless. Why can't they just stay put, and let the trees and all the life they support stay put too?

Eliot Rosewater

ForestBrain wrote:

I hate waste. I hate it very much. I hate seeing trees chopped down for somebody's entertainment (i.e., making a raft so they can float on a lake, when they already have a plastic raft). I hate deer hunting. I hate killing animals for food when it isn't necessary. I mean, come on, America does not need to slaughter all of the animals they kill for food! And that "well, animals were overpopulate the country" doesn't work, because the animals are bread to be killed. I just hate it. I hate the unnecessary deaths.
I hate eating meat, I have never had a taste for it and every time I have eaten it, I think of the poor animal and lose my appetite. Is anybody else like this? Am I a weirdo?
(my family loves meat, and I have one sister who wants to try lamb, rabbit, goat, goose, duck...bleh, the savage)

I am not against using wood, I just hate to see it wasted, because trees are so beautiful and were I live there are not very many.

I don't think you're a weirdo either. I feel the same way, kinda. I grew up eating meat so it's hard to just never eat it. But I try to eat it less and less. I think hunting is savage. And certainly killing anything, including plants, for no reason is also savage. The whole "God put animals here for us to kill and eat" thing is bullshit. Mostly because I'm not sure God exists, but even if he or she did then I wouldn't think he or she would want us killing any living creature. Of course, that's just like my opinion, dude.

El_Kabong

ForestBrain wrote:

I hate waste. I hate it very much. I hate seeing trees chopped down for somebody's entertainment (i.e., making a raft so they can float on a lake, when they already have a plastic raft). I hate deer hunting. I hate killing animals for food when it isn't necessary. I mean, come on, America does not need to slaughter all of the animals they kill for food! And that "well, animals were overpopulate the country" doesn't work, because the animals are bread to be killed. I just hate it. I hate the unnecessary deaths.
I hate eating meat, I have never had a taste for it and every time I have eaten it, I think of the poor animal and lose my appetite. Is anybody else like this? Am I a weirdo?
(my family loves meat, and I have one sister who wants to try lamb, rabbit, goat, goose, duck...bleh, the savage)

I am not against using wood, I just hate to see it wasted, because trees are so beautiful and were I live there are not very many.

and think of how much loose leaf paper is used to just to be balled up and thrown...or in the end that is what happens, anyway....

ppl like rush limbaugh claim there are more trees now than when colombus landed :rolleyes:

there's this side road i take to the highway on my way to work, it was a real pretty windy stretch of woods w/ a few houses here and there....now large sections have been cleared out :(

El_Kabong

don't gimme no wrote:

I don't think you're a weirdo either. I feel the same way, kinda. I grew up eating meat so it's hard to just never eat it. But I try to eat it less and less. I think hunting is savage. And certainly killing anything, including plants, for no reason is also savage. The whole "God put animals here for us to kill and eat" thing is bullshit. Mostly because I'm not sure God exists, but even if he or she did then I wouldn't think he or she would want us killing any living creature. Of course, that's just like my opinion, dude.

exactly, aren't we all supposed tobe god's creations? we could live in balance but it seems we just want to tear down everything and build a strip mall or fast food place or check advance place....

Eliot Rosewater

El_Kabong wrote:

exactly, aren't we all supposed tobe god's creations? we could live in balance but it seems we just want to tear down everything and build a strip mall or fast food place or check advance place....

I fucking hate those check advance places. They're popping up all over. One on every other block. They prey on the poor and should be illegal. Plus they look like goddamn casinos or something with all their bright lights and shit. Fewer things get me more hostile than those places. It makes me hope and hope that there's a hell so they can burn for eternity alongside anyone else who preys on the poor.

Edit: There, they're, their....

ForestBrain

don't gimme no wrote:

I don't think you're a weirdo either. I feel the same way, kinda. I grew up eating meat so it's hard to just never eat it. But I try to eat it less and less. I think hunting is savage. And certainly killing anything, including plants, for no reason is also savage. The whole "God put animals here for us to kill and eat" thing is bullshit. Mostly because I'm not sure God exists, but even if he or she did then I wouldn't think he or she would want us killing any living creature. Of course, that's just like my opinion, dude.

According to the Bible, animals were meant to be companions to man, not food. Sin is what started death, according to the Bible.
But I'm not a dude, I'm a woman

jlew24asu

what a weirdo

RockinInCanada

I do have thoughts like the poster states (and she is not weird for believing that) and I also do not believe in the God told me I can stuff...however what alleviates my concerns about this matter is to look at nature....there are predators in every environment...there are those that eat only meat, those that veggies and meat and then just plain old herbovoires.

What I am getting at is that nature obviously dictates that some species will kill others for food. Therefore us eating meat is a natural concept in my mind.

HOWEVER I hate the fact that we do waste so much...as compared to Native Americans and buffalo (used every part for something from food to clothes to tools etc.) That is something that bothers me...however eating meat does not because I think it is natural.

genie

ForestBrain wrote:

I hate waste. I hate it very much. I hate seeing trees chopped down for somebody's entertainment (i.e., making a raft so they can float on a lake, when they already have a plastic raft). I hate deer hunting. I hate killing animals for food when it isn't necessary. I mean, come on, America does not need to slaughter all of the animals they kill for food! And that "well, animals were overpopulate the country" doesn't work, because the animals are bread to be killed. I just hate it. I hate the unnecessary deaths.
I hate eating meat, I have never had a taste for it and every time I have eaten it, I think of the poor animal and lose my appetite. Is anybody else like this? Am I a weirdo?
(my family loves meat, and I have one sister who wants to try lamb, rabbit, goat, goose, duck...bleh, the savage)

I am not against using wood, I just hate to see it wasted, because trees are so beautiful and were I live there are not very many.

i like to eat meat every now and again. i also sympathise with your thread.
i think more people like you should be in power.

onelongsong

ForestBrain wrote:

I hate waste. I hate it very much. I hate seeing trees chopped down for somebody's entertainment (i.e., making a raft so they can float on a lake, when they already have a plastic raft). I hate deer hunting. I hate killing animals for food when it isn't necessary. I mean, come on, America does not need to slaughter all of the animals they kill for food! And that "well, animals were overpopulate the country" doesn't work, because the animals are bread to be killed. I just hate it. I hate the unnecessary deaths.
I hate eating meat, I have never had a taste for it and every time I have eaten it, I think of the poor animal and lose my appetite. Is anybody else like this? Am I a weirdo?
(my family loves meat, and I have one sister who wants to try lamb, rabbit, goat, goose, duck...bleh, the savage)

I am not against using wood, I just hate to see it wasted, because trees are so beautiful and were I live there are not very many.

we share the same basic beliefs but differently. when people started buying food at the grocery; hunting dropped considerably. in fact; in 1941 or 42; the illinois game and fish reported the states population for deer at 2. we killed the preditors and took away habitat and they over populated and died out. we had 2 choices; either we hire government hit-men to reduce the population or we let hunters pay us to make good use of the animals.
as far as veggies are concerned; as a farmer i can tell you that the ground has to be prepared 3 times minimum prior to planting. so a big diesel tractor passes that field polluting the air 3 times; then planting making 4; cultivating between the rows at least 2 times; then we have spraying adding another 2 times; then harvesting adding another. years ago when prople grew their own food that wasn't the case. animals won't over populate the country. i don't know where you heard that. they will starve and become extinct. except of course insects and rodents that feed off our waste.
one grass fed cow causes less waste than a dozen carrots. the animal roams freely controlling the natural grasses. the only time energy is used is to truck them to the packing house then again to the markets.
i'm beginning to rant so i'll stop; but i think i got the point accross.

onelongsong

ForestBrain wrote:

I hate waste. I hate it very much. I hate seeing trees chopped down for somebody's entertainment (i.e., making a raft so they can float on a lake, when they already have a plastic raft). I hate deer hunting. I hate killing animals for food when it isn't necessary. I mean, come on, America does not need to slaughter all of the animals they kill for food! And that "well, animals were overpopulate the country" doesn't work, because the animals are bread to be killed. I just hate it. I hate the unnecessary deaths.
I hate eating meat, I have never had a taste for it and every time I have eaten it, I think of the poor animal and lose my appetite. Is anybody else like this? Am I a weirdo?
(my family loves meat, and I have one sister who wants to try lamb, rabbit, goat, goose, duck...bleh, the savage)

I am not against using wood, I just hate to see it wasted, because trees are so beautiful and were I live there are not very many.

i'm a big enviornmentalist and i've got to ask:
you talked about using a plastic raft; but plastics are made from oil. wood is renewable and organic. it's decay replenishes the soil. what would you like to see used?

norm

onelongsong wrote:

i'm a big enviornmentalist and i've got to ask:
you talked about using a plastic raft; but plastics are made from oil. wood is renewable and organic. it's decay replenishes the soil. what would you like to see used?

bamboo?....not answering for her isn't bamboo an environmentally safe wood?....can you make a canoe out of bamboo?

Jeanie

cutback wrote:

bamboo?....not answering for her isn't bamboo an environmentally safe wood?....can you make a canoe out of bamboo?

Bamboo is considered a pest in some places here cb.

Think fb's point was she doesn't like to see people wasting trees for their amusement and I'd have to agree with that.

Just as I agree that OLS is right about plastic/rubber rafts being petroleum products and therefore worse for the environment than a tree raft.

Just hope I never need a raft!!

http://www.bamboowholesale.com.au/html/bamboo.html

norm

Jeanie wrote:

Bamboo is considered a pest in some places here cb.

but i think that's the point.....bamboo is readily available and is a strong wood...i could be wrong.....:)

Jeanie

cutback wrote:

but i think that's the point.....bamboo is readily available and is a strong wood...i could be wrong.....:)

True, but I think cutting it would probably only spread it further. Least that's what seems to happen with it when we've played with it here!

But yeah, it would be handy for a raft if it was available. Supposing I needed one.

ForestBrain

onelongsong wrote:

i'm a big enviornmentalist and i've got to ask:
you talked about using a plastic raft; but plastics are made from oil. wood is renewable and organic. it's decay replenishes the soil. what would you like to see used?

See...it was a show I was watching. They HAD a plastic raft, and then they cut down seven or eight trees with which to make ANOTHER raft, just for fun.