Why won't Dean talk to Obama and Clintons about a Compromise?

jbalicki10jbalicki10 Posts: 517
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
I don't get it. The democratic party should be uniting instead of dividing. Obama should show that he can indeed work with own party and get Clintons onboard or get some kind compromise and move forward. If Obama can't get his own party together, how the heck is he going to get republicans to work him as well? Dean is a joke for not even hinting to Obama or Hillary to work together instead of dividing.

Heck even the conservative republicans are backing McCain. It's these reasons I may change my vote to McCain.
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  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    compromise?

    on what issue?

    It would appear that by Hillary continuing to campaign on, the fault for the party division might be hers.
  • SilverSeedSilverSeed Posts: 336
    Work together in their race against each other? Not happening.

    The remaining superdelegates need to announce who they're going for. It's that simple.
    When Jesus said "Love your enemies" he probably didn't mean kill them...

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  • As Democrats, they should be able to work together.

    As politicians, they're both too selfish to make that happen.
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    I don't get it. The democratic party should be uniting instead of dividing. Obama should show that he can indeed work with own party and get Clintons onboard or get some kind compromise and move forward. If Obama can't get his own party together, how the heck is he going to get republicans to work him as well? Dean is a joke for not even hinting to Obama or Hillary to work together instead of dividing.

    Heck even the conservative republicans are backing McCain. It's these reasons I may change my vote to McCain.

    By compromise, just what do you mean? Joint ticket? No fucking way that's happening. How does Obama "compromising" with clinton "show that he can work with his own party"? No one can work with the clintons.
    As far as conservative republicans backing McCain, i have another question. Did you see the NC and IN republican primary statistics? McCain recieved in the low 70's of voter percentage, AND HE'S THE NOMINEE! There's no one else still running against him! It seems to me he still has a "consrvative problem". Besides which candidate would you expect consevatives to support? Obama?
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    i don't understand why this is so catastrophic to some. it's a damn election. and i'm definitely excited that my vote (may 20! i already sent my ballot in!) will actually count for something. what is the problem with going forward until there is a clear majority?

    obama has worked with his own party and with republicans. i'm sure the party will unite after the nomination. people have worked too hard and have become invested in the process and the party again. i can't really see that many people becoming bitter enough not to vote if their candidate isn't chosen. that's pretty lame. there's too much at stake.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,299
    SilverSeed wrote:
    Work together in their race against each other? Not happening.

    The remaining superdelegates need to announce who they're going for. It's that simple.
    Exactly.
    It will hurt the party more if the head of the DNC came out and forced her to quit. It'll piss off the millions that voted for her.

    It's up to a) Clinton and b) the Superdelegates at this point.
  • DixieNDixieN Posts: 351
    As democrats, they will work together. Obama's making noises about Hillary being on a VP shortlist. I don't know if this is just a ploy to knock the remaining wind out of her sails, but it would, in fact, be a smart move. I'd love to see it. It's an ideal ticket that would make the Republicans pee their sneakers. I'd like to see that.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    DixieN wrote:
    As democrats, they will work together. Obama's making noises about Hillary being on a VP shortlist. I don't know if this is just a ploy to knock the remaining wind out of her sails, but it would, in fact, be a smart move. I'd love to see it. It's an ideal ticket that would make the Republicans pee their sneakers. I'd like to see that.
    I don't want a Clinton or a Bush in the executive branch of our government...enough is enough. A Clinton on the ticket means my vote goes to McCain, probably.....or Nader again....who knows. :D
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  • butterfly1butterfly1 Posts: 372
    The Clintons pay no attention to Howard Dean.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    DixieN wrote:
    As democrats, they will work together. Obama's making noises about Hillary being on a VP shortlist. I don't know if this is just a ploy to knock the remaining wind out of her sails, but it would, in fact, be a smart move. I'd love to see it. It's an ideal ticket that would make the Republicans pee their sneakers. I'd like to see that.
    i think you are misinterpreting the "noises". When asked, what do you expect him to say? "Hell fucking no?" Of course he wouldn't say that. And i disagree about it being a smart move. It would be political suicide. It would be far from an ideal ticket. In fact, i believe it would be an absolute trainwreck. I'm thinking Kathleen Sebelius fo VP.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • jbalicki10jbalicki10 Posts: 517
    I'm not suggesting a "joint" ticket, I'm suggesting giving clinton a cabinet position or advisor role.
  • butterfly1butterfly1 Posts: 372
    Interestingly, the joint ticket talk is surfacing again today (friday). Some in the DP see it as a condition of the superdelegates pledging for Obama and a way of "healing" the rifts in the party. I must admit, and I disclose an anti-Clinton bias here-that the idea has the kind of logic would not surprise me if it were to come to pass. Obama gets what he wants, and Clinton gets teed up for another run as veep should they win the election.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    I'm not suggesting a "joint" ticket, I'm suggesting giving clinton a cabinet position or advisor role.

    I was thinking the same...
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    I'm not suggesting a "joint" ticket, I'm suggesting giving clinton a cabinet position or advisor role.

    After the campaign she has run, i wouldn't offer her a job scooping the white house dog shit from the lawn just prior to the easter egg hunt. He doesn't need her. He doesn't want her. A joint ticket will never happen. Perhaps she can go hunting with dick cheney since she grew up hunting and shit.
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  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    I'm not suggesting a "joint" ticket, I'm suggesting giving clinton a cabinet position or advisor role.

    This made me giggle a little bit. No offense to you but when I see an opportunity, I'm going to crack a joke. :)

    In what capacity would she advise him?

    How to avoid sniper fire?
    How to alienate everyone in America that isn't 1) old or 2) a rural voter?
    How to act like a psychotic ex-girlfriend that won't give up?
    or how about something to do with budgeting and paying bills?
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    Politicians and campaigns are about as real as professional wrestlers and their on-screen storylines. They appear to hate each other, they verbally bash each other, etc... Backstage they're all friends for the most part. They hang out, get drunk, pass around the same groupies. They're all millionaires who just have to put on this whole charade for everyone. None of them give a fuck.

    If the current state of American politics were a WWE match, it would go a little something like this... (Ironically, all 3 of these "quality" candidates made an appearance on Monday Night Raw the other week.)

    Here's Obama and McCain in the ring, battling it out. All of a sudden, Hillary comes to ringside. Obama is cautious, wary of Hillary. The ref gets knocked out by some impossible twist of fate, and Hillary grabs a steel chair and goes into the ring... She can wipe out Obama, wake up the ref, and help McCain, and ultimately herself to victory. Just as she's about bust Barack wide open, stares him down, Barack pleads on his knees... THEN, she does a complete 180 and wails the old turd (McCain) square in his ugly dome. They wake the ref, Obama gets the pin, the victory, and Obama and Hillary hold hands raised in victory above their heads. WHAT AN ALLIANCE! The crowd goes wild as they CAN'T BELIEVE what just happened.

    McCain whipes the blood off. Stares at the duo as they walk back up the ramp in victory, in utter disbelief. He gathers himself, goes back stage, (the cameras are off at this point) and joins the other 2 in the shower. They laugh about what just happened @ the event, talk about how they will spend their millions, do absolutely nothing good for anyone else in between their next big on-screen bullshit "match," and try not to be caught staring at each other's private parts. A little towel whipping probably goes on too.

    Just like any WWE event, you, the viewer / fan ends up paying way too much money for an event that is essentially 7/8 talk, promos, and bullshit, and only a mere 1/8 action.

    Fuck all three of these people. We're screwed any way you look at it. They are just 3 of the same that will spend all of our money, any moronic way that they want, compromise our security, and take away our liberty as they do it.

    FUCK THEM.
  • LaterDaysLaterDays Posts: 142
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    I'm not suggesting a "joint" ticket, I'm suggesting giving clinton a cabinet position or advisor role.

    Anything shy of the Nominee position and it isn't a "compromise" Hillary will be willing to take.
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