social scurity benefits

deadnote
deadnote Posts: 1,678
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
when is the government gonna budge and up the benefits for deserving qualifliers
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  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    I dunno---maybe when people that didn’t put a dime into it stop getting money?
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    when do i get my Porsche 911?
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    deadnote wrote:
    when is the government gonna budge and up the benefits for deserving qualifliers

    A better question is when is congress going to admit that it's broken and scrap it altogether.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    deadnote wrote:
    when is the government gonna budge and up the benefits for deserving qualifliers

    when they stop paying those who are defrauding them.
    i found out the receptionist at my doctors office was receiving social security disability benefits and working under her husbands social security number. i've reported her every month for 4 months yet as of yesterday; she's still working there.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    onelongsong wrote:
    when they stop paying those who are defrauding them.
    i found out the receptionist at my doctors office was receiving social security disability benefits and working under her husbands social security number. i've reported her every month for 4 months yet as of yesterday; she's still working there.


    Maybe you should change her last name to Lopez or Sanchez and they may act a tad quicker.

    Don't you have to work down there to actually get money when you retire?
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    When will Congress stop taking money from the surplus, and instead leave it there (collecting interest) to pay benefits for people down the road?
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    even flow? wrote:
    Maybe you should change her last name to Lopez or Sanchez and they may act a tad quicker.

    Don't you have to work down there to actually get money when you retire?

    i was gainfully employed for 33 years before becoming disabled. then i started a business i could work from home (ranching). all i do is watch the buffalo eat and process orders. since they put me on morphine and phenobarbitol i get ssdi. i have surgery in a forthnight so we'll see what happens.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    know1 wrote:
    A better question is when is congress going to admit that it's broken and scrap it altogether.
    No time soon, I hope. It's my only income now.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    know1 wrote:
    A better question is when is congress going to admit that it's broken and scrap it altogether.

    What would happen to all the people who rely on it?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    I can't see the program going away, too many people depend on it, although it was never designed for that. It's a catastrophe that's for sure and one that is coming to a head shortly. It's been drained for other issues for sure and if invested properly the money would be there, but who knows what the outcome will be? :)
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    blackredyellow wrote:
    When will Congress stop taking money from the surplus, and instead leave it there (collecting interest) to pay benefits for people down the road?

    good question. deadnotes post talked about 'deserving qualifiers'. it's disgusting to think that people like hippiemom and other deserving recipients may one day, not have this kind of support.

    where's the money going? $507 billion spent for the global war on terror to date, might have something to do with that.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    bush proposed to fix it, everyone (dems) said "there's nothing wrong with it"
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    A better question would be:
    When are they going to STOP TAXING it?

    WHEN RON PAUL GETS ELECTED!

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    810wmb wrote:
    bush proposed to fix it, everyone (dems) said "there's nothing wrong with it"

    If Congress wouldn't have skimmed off the surplus for the past decades, we'd have plenty of money in there for the system to last for the loooonnnnggggg foreseeable future.
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    of a sunny day
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  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    blackredyellow wrote:
    If Congress wouldn't have skimmed off the surplus for the past decades, we'd have plenty of money in there for the system to last for the loooonnnnggggg foreseeable future.


    that's true, but when it came time to address the problem, the dems said it was fine....
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    810wmb wrote:
    that's true, but when it came time to address the problem, the dems said it was fine....

    You mean when there was a Republican majority in the house and senate?

    Politicians on neither side wanted it, it isn't the best campaigning move to piss off the old people.

    Blaming the dems for something that both parties do is my biggest pet peeve of conservative talk radio.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Lizard wrote:
    I dunno---maybe when people that didn’t put a dime into it stop getting money?


    this is wrong... and scrapping it is wrong too... i know it has become popular propaganda with some, especially from the right. but thats because they have their facts wrong

    the real issue is the fact that ZERO income over $97,500 gets taxed for social security... thats right folks... you only pay that 6.2 % tax on the first 100k of your income... so that means bill gates is only paying into social security on his first 100k, which means he is apying just about the same as us per year, yet he is worth $50 billion dollars.

    so open all income to the 6.2 % tax and we could do a whole hell of a lot with it. but oh no, the ceo making $20,000,000 this year cant afford to pay that 6% :rolleyes:

    if you take advantage of this country and its economic system and opportunites then you should help give back to the country...

    there is no reason why bill gates only paid about $3,000 more than me in social security taxes last year... that is just bullshit
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    hippiemom wrote:
    No time soon, I hope. It's my only income now.


    see... this is what i am talking about... thank you for sharing and bringing the issue back to reality

    to my friends on the right... life is real... people are real...

    stop being so fucking greedy, and gladly help your fellow human
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:

    there is no reason why bill gates only paid about $3,000 more than me in social security taxes last year... that is just bullshit

    why are you so focused on income tax. our tax system is much more complex. and come april 15th, rich people pay MUCH more then you.

    and no its not bullshit. does bill gates use more government resources then you are I?
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Lizard wrote:
    I dunno---maybe when people that didn’t put a dime into it stop getting money?



    :)
    agreed.


    also, i think the government has to stop "borrowing" $$$ from social security as well. we all are PAYING in...so leave it be, pay out benefits to those who paid in, and leave the rest ALONE! personally, i stil believe social security is a good idea, smart to have supplemental retirement income.....and glad it is there for those deserving aAND truly needing.

    my2hands wrote:
    there is no reason why bill gates only paid about $3,000 more than me in social security taxes last year... that is just bullshit



    why?
    it's not like he'll get MORE out of it, so i see no need for him to pay out even more. social security is designed to be supplemental income, as in....ADDITION to your own pension plan, savings, etc. it's also a great safeguard for those who need disability, dependent spouses/children for a worker who dies, etc. i see no need for ANYone to pay more than their 'fair share'....and i believe people like bill gates, sure ridiculously wealthy...but it sure seems that he give and gives and gives...so why should he be FORCED to give anymore? he pays in like the rest of us.
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