WAL-MART: The High Cost of Low Prices

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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    NMyTree wrote:
    I'm not exactly fond of Wal-Mart, their business model and how they treat employees. In fact you'll never see me defending Wal-Mart. But.....


    The Elitist attitute in this thread, regarding Wal-Mart shoppers, is unbelievable.

    I can't wait till one of the Elitists show up spouting equal rights, or defending radical Muslims, or preaching love and peace; it's going to be hilarious.

    Good job snobs.


    Are you kidding me!!! The Muslim Wal-mart workers are the best at helping me find my, burqas, sandals, korans, sand for the living room to make me feel like the old country. Cut them some slack or ask them for some help next time you are in the store. They even speak English and have a nice white smile.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    even flow? wrote:
    They even speak English and have a nice white smile.

    Why do you have to bring dental discrimination into this?:D

    Oh yeah, always has to "white" for you, doesn't it?
  • ryan198 wrote:
    It must be nice to have that privilege, some people don't.

    Everyone has the privilege to not shop at Wal-Mart, whereas many Wal-Mart shoppers have the privilege not to pay taxes, whereas many others do not.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    NMyTree wrote:
    I'm not exactly fond of Wal-Mart, their business model and how they treat employees. In fact you'll never see me defending Wal-Mart. But.....


    The Elitist attitute in this thread, regarding Wal-Mart shoppers, is unbelievable.

    I can't wait till one of the Elitists show up spouting equal rights, or defending radical Muslims, or preaching love and peace; it's going to be hilarious.

    Good job snobs.
    My comments are not coming from any "elitist attitude". Maybe the WalMarts that I have been to in the past are different then yours.
    I've seen a fight break out, I've seen people steal stuff, I've seen people taking things from other carts, I've seen lots of rusty, muffler-less cars in the parking lot, kids running around knocking stuff off shelves...I can go on and on.
    Maybe I've just had bad luck in going to WalMart, but never in my life have I seen the things that I have at any other store.
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    This thread made me laugh. It reminded me of a Southpark. I fear a giant cloud of 'Smug' might suffocate us all.

    I live in Northwest Arkansas, home of 'The Wal-Mart' (I actually live in the college town of Fayetteville). We are infested with Wal-Marts. I try to avoid Wal-Mart, but having few choices, I am forced to stop in one every now and again. It's funny, because a few of you stated that you never shop in Wal-Mart, yet you are so familiar with their clientele. I have to say, the last time I was at one, there were all walks of life there.

    I can appreciate anyone having an issue with Wal-Mart's business practices, but it is a bit shallow and short-sighted to simply make fun of the clientele.
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  • drivingrldrivingrl Posts: 1,448
    I watched this film for the first time today. I'm so blessed that I can afford to not shop at Wal-Mart. What an awful business.
    drivingrl: "Will I ever get to meet Gwen Stefani?"
    kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.

    Next!"
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    I don't exactly perceive this as a class problem. More of an economic problem. It's seems to be an accelerant of capitalism.

    If we look at the methodology and how it fits into a capitalist society. We can see the wages going down, the cost of manufacturing going down, the manufacturers profits going down, etc... all the while, the income of the CEO $27,000,000 and rising, the net worth of the owners (The Waltons) 300,000,000,000 or so and the concentration of wealth. The employees of wal-mart gross 1% of the Waltons. That just doesn't seem right.

    So what I see, and what I've always suspected about capitalism is a constant unabatable transformation of wealth and power. There becomes fewer and fewer corporations, larger and larger corporations and a greater transfer of wealth. How long will it take us to reach China status with the Capitlist method? In Capitalism everything is justified and supported by the system. In Communism, which I also dislike, there is someone to blame, the government. You can complain to your government about the standard of living. With Capitalism, we are faced with the dilemma, we can't give more money to the people, the government's income is taxes, if people need the tax money back just to survive we are in serious trouble. We can't blame the corporations because they operate within the guidelines of capitalism. Wal-Mart like any corporation has a panel who's primary responsibility is to increase revenue. Once a corporation has attained a certain supply/demand limit, it's nearly impossible to increase revenue. You can't sell more blankets than people want to buy. You also can't remain competitive if other people sell it cheaper. The only ways to increase revenue would be to sell more or make the product for less or otherwise decrease company overhead (e.g. lay people off). You can't sell more if people won't buy more, that's what supply and demand statements are about. So, if you can't lay people off and there is no increase in demand for your product. Then you have to pay your employees less or try to get the product cheaper. As pathetic as it sounds, Wal-mart and companies like it will make drastic changes to save $0.01 per product sold, because that translates into millions annually.

    This is the capitalist society. I used to work for a call centre, two actually. First off, the call centres are typically paid by the contract for seconds of time spent on the phone. So as employees of a typical call centre, like Teletech, you are required to spend at least a certain amount of time available to take calls or on calls. A washroom break period is granted for people needing to use the washroom, this is typically 2 minutes per day. These companies claim that if every employee was 1 second in excess of those 2 minutes, they would lose millions each year. Additionally no time should be spent in aftercall or between calls, the agent is required to answer a call automatically immediately after the previous call. The first caller says "bye", hangs up their phone and the agent immediately receives a tone notifying them of an incoming call, at this point they begin their script. Several calls that I took were billing related, though specifically I was general customer service for Nextel. A lot of people called in to argue the amount of their bill, I can recall several occasions where the disputed amount was as low as $0.02. This is how capitalism works for a lot of people. They tend to accumulate great wealth, while others, perhaps more generous or forgiving with their earnings remain at a constant net worth.

    Most people aren't crunching their bank statements and making projections about their future earnings. They aren't fine tuning every aspect of their life to be the richest and most wealthy they possibly can be. Most people are satisfied with the necessities and desire a few material posessions. I know very few people, save my ex-girlfriend, that want to be multi-millionaires, own several cars, boats, houses and host million dollar parties. The system caters to those people, not the average folk. It's designed for the people that dedicate their lives to getting there. It's cost is very high, as they accumulate more and more wealth it's at other's loss. It's the only way they can make more money, is to pay you less, sell you crappier stuff, lie, cheat and steal.

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    not to brag,.. but i was sort of arrested when i was 16 for shoplifting rolls of film from the wal-mart in gettysburg. subseqently i'm banned for life from all wal0mart stores, which now tops the list of rit, davidson, and st. john fisher colleges. if it's any consolation, the popo only took one of the four rolls from my underpants, so i still successfully stole three rolls of film from those overbearing deuschebags.
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  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    what a bunch of snob shits some of you are.....


    but, you'll take up for hitler and adjahenaraghead in a heartbeat...


    see yr true colors
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  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    The one thing I appreciate about walmart is that they definitely hire employees who don't really have the skills to be working at your higher level department or grocery stores. They are basically giving jobs to thousands of people who might not be able to find jobs otherwise since a lot of them just don't have the customer service skills. I shop at Walmart, it is near my house and it is cheap. But when I step in there I know exactly what I am going to get.
  • Exploitation is so cool....especially when it's backed up by military impunity!

    I love when those already super exploited items go on sale even! What a scenario that is! Every day it get lower? too cool... Thanks little brown and yellow kids!!!

    Brings back a little slice of that 18th century slave trade. Get's me all gooey inside for another Wally World bargain!!

    Ahh the nostalgia...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • 810wmb wrote:
    what a bunch of snob shits some of you are.....


    but, you'll take up for hitler and adjahenaraghead in a heartbeat...


    see yr true colors


    Hi my name is young and opinionated...

    lol
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Your link got pulled here it is again

    Interesting Documantary. Illuminating.

    Thanks Ryan.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • This walmart battle was lost a few years ago. Wal-mart won.

    hmmm. i guess I could always go to Target instead of Wal-Mart. its got half the selection, and higher prices!

    with K-mart not around here anymore, there aren't any more choices.
  • The last few minutes of the documentary is the best part. That's a serious amount of communities saying no to this cancer of a business.

    Low prices do carry a high cost, and Wal-Marts business practices are absolutely brutal. Anti-humanity in fact. Actually it's downright disgusting beyond belief. Plantation capitalism.

    The Waltons are sinister pathetic greedy creatures.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    some of you folks are dicks.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • Capitalism is fine. Corrupt capitalism is not.

    If you're going to run a monopoly don't be sinister and inhumane towards large masses of people and tell them you're helping them, while you rip their guts out.

    Simple as that.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Urban HikerUrban Hiker Posts: 1,312
    Capitalism is fine. Corrupt capitalism is not.

    If you're going to run a monopoly don't be sinister and inhumane towards large masses of people and tell them you're helping them, while you rip their guts out.

    Simple as that.

    Awesome!!!!


    Can consumers share some of the responsiblity, though? I understand that Walmart is the only place to shop in some communities, but whatever happened to hand-me-downs and thrift stores?

    I think that we, as consumers, feel entitled to shiny new products. We shop where we can afford to without thinking about how the the stores manage keeping prices so low.

    My mom talks about not having a tv, because they could not afford one. For many years, my school clothes were hand-me-downs that I would hand down to my sister when I grew out of them. I think parents today just go to Target or Walmart.

    Why can't we go without? Walmart wouldn't be so successful if people weren't shopping there.
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