Civilian targets in Lebanon

Purple Hawk

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Israeli actions sicken me....just as suicide bombers sicken me....

I'm not sickened by Israeli's action's in the least, they aren't interested in marketing and PR, or manipulating situations so that when the opposition makes a move, it's counterproductive. Quite simply, they are interested in the right to exist and don't believe in bullshit. It's refreshing.

Ahnimus

Purple Hawk wrote:

I'm not sickened by Israeli's action's in the least, they aren't interested in marketing and PR, or manipulating situations so that when the opposition makes a move, it's counterproductive. Quite simply, they are interested in the right to exist and don't believe in bullshit. It's refreshing.

Hey I've got a plan. The next time ALF firebombs a building. Let's start launching rockets and bombing every suspected ALF facility. If a few thousand civilians die it shouldn't be a problem, right?

Purple Hawk

Ahnimus wrote:

Hey I've got a plan. The next time ALF firebombs a building. Let's start launching rockets and bombing every suspected ALF facility. If a few thousand civilians die it shouldn't be a problem, right?

You are the one's pushing moral equivalency, aren't you?

They are doing what needs to be done, and everyone knows it.

Ahnimus

Purple Hawk wrote:

You are the one's pushing moral equivalency, aren't you?

They are doing what needs to be done, and everyone knows it.

I was being sarcastic. I don't see that as "doing what needs to be done", that is a matter of personal opinion. I can think of other ways of resolving the conflict, that Israel and the USA will not agree to.

RockinInCanada

Purple Hawk wrote:

I'm not sickened by Israeli's action's in the least, they aren't interested in marketing and PR, or manipulating situations so that when the opposition makes a move, it's counterproductive. Quite simply, they are interested in the right to exist and don't believe in bullshit. It's refreshing.

....killing civilians is refreshing....or I forgot, its a necessity to get the job done....

RockinInCanada

Ahnimus wrote:

I was being sarcastic. I don't see that as "doing what needs to be done", that is a matter of personal opinion. I can think of other ways of resolving the conflict, that Israel and the USA will not agree to.

Anything that involves a peaceful resolution is obivously off the table because that never works...but attacking does....

Purple Hawk

Ahnimus wrote:

I was being sarcastic. I don't see that as "doing what needs to be done", that is a matter of personal opinion. I can think of other ways of resolving the conflict, that Israel and the USA will not agree to.

I can think of ways to resolve the conflict that Hezbollah, hammas, etc would not agree to. I think we've reached a point where we agree to disagree.

Purple Hawk

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Anything that involves a peaceful resolution is obivously off the table because that never works...but attacking does....

pretty much

RockinInCanada

Purple Hawk wrote:

I'm not sickened by Israeli's action's in the least, they aren't interested in marketing and PR, or manipulating situations so that when the opposition makes a move, it's counterproductive. Quite simply, they are interested in the right to exist and don't believe in bullshit. It's refreshing.

So you believe that when Israel was given the land they currently occupy, that did not invoke a sense of wanting to exist from some Palestinies or no?

This sob story goes both ways....which is my whole arguement....

Purple Hawk

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

So you believe that when Israel was given the land they currently occupy, that did not invoke a sense of wanting to exist from some Palestinies or no?

This sob story goes both ways....which is my whole arguement....

So shouldn't they just fight over the land and get it over with?

Heatherj43

Israel is lying through their fricking teeth as to what they doing and why!!! The US has the power to tell them to stop it. Bush needs to quit kissing their ass...and maybe threaten to take some mine and yours money away from them.
If Israel really wanted peace in the region they wouldn't had been hitting Lebanon prior to what Hezbollah did.
They have another agenda and I will bet it has to do with wanting Iran or Syria to step in, so america will come the rescue and start a real bad war in that area.
The Muslim nations need to take a stand and unite and defend its people in all the muslim nations.
They have the right to live there in their custom and in peace.
It seems maybe they were right. They feel the western world is trying to make them westernize through brute force...and the irony is that we are told it is them who wants to change our way of life. These action show just the opposite.
Leave these people alone. They have the right to live with their cultural norms.

RockinInCanada

Purple Hawk wrote:

So shouldn't they just fight over the land and get it over with?

Thats pretty primitive thinking...

NMyTree

Heatherj43 wrote:

Israel is lying through their fricking teeth as to what they doing and why!!! The US has the power to tell them to stop it. Bush needs to quit kissing their ass...and maybe threaten to take some mine and yours money away from them.
If Israel really wanted peace in the region they wouldn't had been hitting Lebanon prior to what Hezbollah did.
They have another agenda and I will bet it has to do with wanting Iran or Syria to step in, so america will come the rescue and start a real bad war in that area.
The Muslim nations need to take a stand and unite and defend its people in all the muslim nations.
They have the right to live there in their custom and in peace.
It seems maybe they were right. They feel the western world is trying to make them westernize through brute force...and the irony is that we are told it is them who wants to change our way of life. These action show just the opposite.
Leave these people alone. They have the right to live with their cultural norms.

Im think it's a little of both.

We all know America, Israel, the British are pushing for this capitalistic, global economy.....New World Order crap. And they have been acting on it for quite along time. They want to change other cultures and turn them into modern customers.

But not all Americans, Israeli and Brits agree and are against pushing this agenda.

I also believe there are specific groups of Muslims who do in fact want to establish an Islamic Planet and do want to force everyone on the planet to convert or die. But that certainly does not encompass all Muslims. Really, only a small percentage.

It's these extremists (including the Capitalistic Extremists ) of the world who always create the death and destruction. It's disgusting.

Heatherj43

NMyTree wrote:

Im think it's a little of both.

We all know America, Israel, the British are pushing for this capitalistic, global economy.....New World Order crap. And they have been acting on it for quite along time. They want to change other cultures and turn them into modern customers.

But not all Americans, Israeli and Brits agree and are against pushing this agenda.

I also believe there are specific groups of Muslims who do in fact want to establish an Islamic Planet and do want to force everyone on the planet to convert or die. But that certainly does not encompass all Muslims. Really, only a small percentage.

It's these extremists (including the Capitalistic Extremists ) of the world who always create the death and destruction. It's disgusting.

I think the bottom line is that we have our culture and they have theirs. Both sides are trying to change the others culture by using brute force.
I also can't omit the fact that these Islamic countries have oil!!! That is the most likely the shameful reason for most of the blood shed.
It is hard for me to even put gas in my tank without considering the lives lost so I can do so.
I also think about the state I live in and how oil can be found under our Great Lakes, but the selfish, spoiled people here don't want their beautiful lakes to lose its charm by uglying it up with oil rigs.
How fucking selfish!!!

Ahnimus

Diagram of Israël and Hezbollah attacks courtesy of MSN.com