Visual Cognition

AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
I have a right dominant eye.

Extend your arm completely, hold one finger up, with both eyes open align your finger with a distant object, like the corner of a wall. Now close one eye, then open that eye and close the other. Most people should see a major shift in perception from one eye, while the image from the other eye appears relatively the same.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I have a right dominant eye.

    Extend your arm completely, hold one finger up, with both eyes open align your finger with a distant object, like the corner of a wall. Now close one eye, then open that eye and close the other. Most people should see a major shift in perception from one eye, while the image from the other eye appears relatively the same.
    ...
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    stand in a doorway, push your arms as hard as you can away from your body for 5 seconds. move out of the doorway your arms magically rise
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I posted this in another thread on AET. If you know the answer, please don't post it, PM me for the answer.

    Watch: http://viscog.beckman.uiuc.edu/grafs/demos/15.html

    Count how many times the people in the white shirts pass the basketball.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    This is an excerpt form Suprising Studies of Visual Awareness
    EDIT: This particular study is not included on the DVD.

    http://viscog.beckman.uiuc.edu/grafs/demos/10.html

    See, if you can see what's wrong with this scene.

    Note, the woman is unaware of the experiment.
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  • Ok, maybe I'm doing this wrong but my finger hardly moves at all with either eye...
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ok, maybe I'm doing this wrong but my finger hardly moves at all with either eye...

    You have co-dominant eyes then. Lucky you.

    Are you a woman?

    Maybe you have 4 pigments for color as well.
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  • Ahnimus wrote:
    You have co-dominant eyes then. Lucky you.

    Are you a woman?

    Maybe you have 4 pigments for color as well.


    Yes, I'm a woman
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Yes, I'm a woman

    Cool, women have a chance of having 4 pigements for colour, where as men have a chance of only have 2. So, while men can be color-blind, women can have super color vision.

    I guess that's why women are more fashionable, statistically speaking.
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  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Cool, women have a chance of having 4 pigements for colour, where as men have a chance of only have 2. So, while men can be color-blind, women can have super color vision.

    I guess that's why women are more fashionable, statistically speaking.

    Cool, I knew there had to be a scientific explanation as to why I have such a keen fashion sense! ;)
    "Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore."

    10/21/06 & 10/22/06 (Bridge Shows)
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    This is an excerpt form Suprising Studies of Visual Awareness
    EDIT: This particular study is not included on the DVD.

    http://viscog.beckman.uiuc.edu/grafs/demos/10.html

    See, if you can see what's wrong with this scene.

    Note, the woman is unaware of the experiment.

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    they switched the papers,...

    Actually, two of the people switched places as the two men with the board walked in-between.

    The experiment was to see if the people would notice that they were talking to a completely different person, or that the guys clothes had changed.

    Interestingly they don't notice.

    EDIT: Although, some of the people claimed to have noticed, even though they didn't appear to at the time.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Actually, two of the people switched places as the two men with the board walked in-between.

    The experiment was to see if the people would notice that they were talking to a completely different person, or that the guys clothes had changed.

    Interestingly they don't notice.

    EDIT: Although, some of the people claimed to have noticed, even though they didn't appear to at the time.

    i looked at them again and holy shit, totally didn't catch it,... how many people catch on the first time? i don't want to be the solo idiot
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    i looked at them again and holy shit, totally didn't catch it,... how many people catch on the first time? i don't want to be the solo idiot

    I didn't catch it, and I just showed it to a coworker that didn't catch it. Clearly the subject in the video didn't notice, and to think those guys had different faces and probably different voices as well.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Here is another example of change-blindness
    http://www.usd.edu/psyc301/Rensink.htm

    There are 3 frames, first frame is unedited, second frame is blank (required), 3rd frame is doctored.

    So the idea is, to see what is different between the first frame and the 3rd frame.

    The 2nd frame is required for the experiment, going from the original photo to the editted photo and the solution is too obvious. With the blank frame, it tricks the eyes.

    So, when you see it cool, please don't post what it is, because it will spoil it, once you know the difference, you will always see it, even a year from now.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Here is another example of change-blindness
    http://www.usd.edu/psyc301/Rensink.htm

    There are 3 frames, first frame is unedited, second frame is blank (required), 3rd frame is doctored.

    So the idea is, to see what is different between the first frame and the 3rd frame.

    The 2nd frame is required for the experiment, going from the original photo to the editted photo and the solution is too obvious. With the blank frame, it tricks the eyes.

    So, when you see it cool, please don't post what it is, because it will spoil it, once you know the difference, you will always see it, even a year from now.
    That pisses me off.:D I stared at that shit for like 3 minutes. aarrgghh!
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    For anyone running power point
    http://www.mpam.gr/funny_slideshows/guess_card.htm

    This is David Copperfield guessing your card via the internet.

    It's a very simple trick, really.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    cutback wrote:
    That pisses me off.:D I stared at that shit for like 3 minutes. aarrgghh!

    lol. Yea, it's a relatively large change.

    There are dozens of these change-blindness examples on the internet. They are kind of fun do to, and kind of frustrating.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    cutback wrote:
    That pisses me off.:D I stared at that shit for like 3 minutes. aarrgghh!

    BTW, It's inversely related to IQ!

    No, I'm just joking.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Ahnimus wrote:
    BTW, It's inversely related to IQ!

    No, I'm just joking.
    ha ha

    I tried the other ones. That one is the toughest.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    cutback wrote:
    ha ha

    I tried the other ones. That one is the toughest.

    Yea, I like that one, there is a full explanation of it, between the Eyes, Visual Cortex and B1 B2 neural networks. The eyes are actually seeing everything in all of these experiments, it's the visual cortex and the connected neural networks that are erroneous.
    http://www.klab.caltech.edu/cns120/RAMFiles/lecture07.ram
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Cool, women have a chance of having 4 pigements for colour, where as men have a chance of only have 2. So, while men can be color-blind, women can have super color vision.

    I guess that's why women are more fashionable, statistically speaking.

    I should note here too, that if you have 4 pigments for color, there is a likelihood that you could have a color-blind son. I don't if that is exactly true or why, that's just what I heard on a lecture series about visual cognition.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    It's also interesting to note that you can stare at a fixed spot but shift your attention to the corners of your eyes. Experiments showed that during this kind of attention shift, images shown directly in the eye's line of sight were statistically not consciously seen to the subject.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I got the first two right away, and the third one after 30 seconds or so. This is somewhat surprising to me, since I am notoriously oblivious to my surroundings. Once I said to my mom (who I visit once every couple of weeks) "Hey, you painted the house!" She just stared at me for a few seconds, shook her head and said "Yeah, a year and a half ago." Don't ever expect me to notice that you cut your hair or lost weight, because I won't ... most visual stuff goes right past me. I guess it's just because I was expecting to notice something. In my everyday life a zebra could probably wander around my house for a while before I noticed he was there.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    hippiemom wrote:
    I got the first two right away, and the third one after 30 seconds or so. This is somewhat surprising to me, since I am notoriously oblivious to my surroundings. Once I said to my mom (who I visit once every couple of weeks) "Hey, you painted the house!" She just stared at me for a few seconds, shook her head and said "Yeah, a year and a half ago." Don't ever expect me to notice that you cut your hair or lost weight, because I won't ... most visual stuff goes right past me. I guess it's just because I was expecting to notice something. In my everyday life a zebra could probably wander around my house for a while before I noticed he was there.
    Look around.

    Is there a zebra wandering around?
  • Too cool!
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