So now I'm responsible for your actions when it serves you? You are a piece of work Soulsinging. Didn't you say your are studying law? How is that going for you? Can you wrap your head around that? I am surprised.
can you wrap your head around satire and sarcasm? let me lay it out for you and thus deprive it of humor (you're not too good at that anyway). i was saying that for your views to be consistent, you have to recognize that i am not an asshole, but that your behaviors provoke me into being an asshole to you. if i am an asshole, it is becos of the way i react to you, not becos of who i am. that's what you say isnt it?
me, i choose to be harsh with you. becos it's impossible to be civil. you dont understand it. as you did not understand my tongue in cheek response. nor will you be able to understand this explanation of it either most likely.
im doing just fine in law school. thank you very much for asking
It's better for mental health to believe that eating Zuchinni will cure you. Psychosis can lead to more serious forms of mental disorders. Namely Schizophrenia.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
can you wrap your head around satire and sarcasm? let me lay it out for you and thus deprive it of humor (you're not too good at that anyway). i was saying that for your views to be consistent, you have to recognize that i am not an asshole, but that your behaviors provoke me into being an asshole to you. if i am an asshole, it is becos of the way i react to you, not becos of who i am. that's what you say isnt it?
me, i choose to be harsh with you. becos it's impossible to be civil. you dont understand it. as you did not understand my tongue in cheek response. nor will you be able to understand this explanation of it either most likely.
im doing just fine in law school. thank you very much for asking
No, no, you can still be an asshole. But my thinking means that you can change and I will give you the benefit of the doubt with almost every post. But that doesn't make you not an asshole in this moment or the past.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
'When you go to a doctor, s/he prescribes a medication for you to take, or a treatment you will undergo, your body starts the healing process before the medicine is in your system or the exercise or surgical procedure has taken place. For most people, just seeing a doctor gives confidence that healing will occur. Depending on the patient’s cultural background, this is true whether the physician is a neurosurgeon at the Mayo Clinic or a tribal witch doctor. This is attributable to an extraordinary healing ability of the body by a process known as the placebo effect. What happens is that healing starts when you believe it will occur. Your mind buys into it and your body makes it happen. The great physician and humanitarian, Dr. Albert Schweitzer, gives us this insight - "The witch doctor succeeds for the same reason all the rest of us (medical doctors) succeed. Each patient carries his own doctor inside himself. They come to us not knowing that truth. We are at our best when we give the doctor who resides within each patient a chance to go to work."
Our body is a fantastic chemical factory that is capable of seemingly unbelievable things. For instance, there is the case of a 95-pound woman lifting up a two-ton car to save the life of her child who was trapped under its weight. This was due to a gigantic adrenaline release. As impressive a display of adaptability to a need this is, our body is capable of doing even more seemingly miraculous feats. Perhaps the most impressive of all is its’ ability to heal itself - of anything!
'This 2000-year-old statement is in perfect accord with the most cutting edge scientific and medical understanding of the 21st century. To quote Dr. Herbert Benson of the Harvard Medical School, "We know that belief can lead to healing or at least improvement in 50 percent to 90 percent of diseases, including asthma, angina pectoris, and skin rashes, many forms of pain, rheumatoid arthritis, congestive heart failure. They're all influenced by belief. We in medicine have made fun of belief by calling it the "placebo effect," or insisting that "It's all in your head." Yet, belief is one of the most powerful healing tools we have in our therapeutic arsenal."
Cool stuff, Abook! I agree completely. This is exactly the key. People give away their power to all kinds of outside sources, and there it is, right inside all along.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
No, no, you can still be an asshole. But my thinking means that you can change and I will give you the benefit of the doubt with almost every post. But that doesn't make you not an asshole in this moment or the past.
On insight and reason Taken from an interview with physicist David Bohm:
Bohm: "...it's the insight that does it, you see, the insight is not you, right? The insight being supreme intelligence is able to rearrange the very structural matter of the brain which underlies thought so as to remove that message which is causing the confusion, leaving the necessary information and leaving the brain open to perceive reality in a different way. But at present, it's blocked, the conditioning blocks us, because it creates a pressure to maintain what is familiar and old, and makes people frightened to consider anything new. So, reality is limited by the message which has already been deeply impressed upon the brain cells from early childhood. Now the insight actually removes the message which is causing this block.
Weber: And makes us then commensurable with it?
Bohm: It opens thought up to be fresh and new again so that it can operate rationally. One could say that to remain within this block is completely irrational. It's the result of pressure. You adopt the idea that this block is truth because it relieves the pressure of uncertainty.
Weber: I see, but when you see the term "rationally" or "reasonably" shall we be very clear? You don't mean what the Enlightenment meant, or Descarte, you mean something far beyond that.
Bohm: Reason may have two sources. One is the memory, which is mechanical, rather like a computer.
Weber: Combining the right things.
Bohm: Yes, we may have reason from there and that is subject to all the irrational pressures which are also in the memory: emotional pressures, fears, all those experiences and so on, and so that kind of reasoning is very limited. It can very quickly get caught in self-deception.
Weber: And to you that signifies a barrier. That is not what you're speaking of.
Bohm: That's right. But then there may be reason which flows from insight and a reason which is operating as an instrument of intelligence. That's an entirely different kind of reason.
Weber: It implies what? Order, but not mechanical order?
Bohm: Not mechanical order, and not limited by pressure, you see. Let's take a physicist. If he's been subjected to all these courses in quantum mechanics and pressures to think in this way: he'll be approved of if he does, disapproved of if he doesn't, he gets a job if he does, not if he doesn't, and so on and so on, the minute the idea occurs of thinking in another way, there will be an intense pressure which will blot it out. So, therefore, that isn't reason anymore, it's unreason.
Weber: But he'll think it's reason. He'll rationalize it.
Bohm: He'll think it's reason, yes, he'll say it's reason because he's blotted out all this pressure. It all happens very fast and automatically.
Weber: And he's confirmed by the consensus of the physical community?
Bohm: Well, everybody's doing the same thing, you see. They all reinforce each other and they all say it's right, but it's all the same.
Weber: Can we go back for a moment? This possible state that you speak of where intelligence or insight operates because it's unblocked because I've taken away the obstacles....
Bohm: It's insight that's taken away the obstacles, not me, right?
Weber: All right. What it would be in touch with, you imply is beyond the nonmanifest, is the source of the nonmanifest. Are you implying that that's the domain of, shall we call it "the sacred"?
Bohm: Well, it has been called the sacred. As we know "holy" is based on the word "whole", it could be called whole, or wholeness. See, the word "sacred" has unfortunately come to mean something different from its original root, that is to say a sacrifice that you make. Now it's closely connected with the idea of organized religions making sacrifices and things like that, and it has a great many connotations which are unfortunate.
Weber: But you feel the word whole, holy is....?
Bohm: Is a bit better, yes. ...
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
The following quote and analogy describes why moving one's focus to a wider parameter of awareness--often considered spiritual--can be a highly liberating, healing process of immense potency as opposed to the pain in common existence.
"Atom-smashing can occur only in the present and must occur ever afresh. The analogy of the atom with thought, and with an alleged thinker who authors thought, is crucial. The thinker is like the atom, cohering in time through its binding energy. When the binding energy of the physical atom is released in an accelerator, the resultant energy, staggeringly huge, becomes freed. Analogously huge amounts of binding energy are needed to create and sustain the "thinker" and to maintain his illusion that he is a stable entity. That energy, being tied up, is unavailable for other purposes, pressed into the service of what Bohm terms "self-deception"... Thought, or what Bohm terms the 3-dimensional mind, mistakenly believing itself autonomous and irreducible, requires and hence squanders vast amounts of cosmic energy on this illusion. Energy thus pre-empted cannot flow into other grooves. The consequence is an unsound cosmic ecology, pulluting the holomovement in at least two destructive directions. First, the holomovement misunderstands itself, choosing fiction over fact, and therefore enslaves itself. Second, the holomovement lacerates itself, substituting the isolated self for the unconsciousness of mankind in an abstraction founded on fallacy, enslaving others through its anger, greed, competitiveness and ambition. The result of both these missteps is a world of personal and interpersonal suffering."
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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can you wrap your head around satire and sarcasm? let me lay it out for you and thus deprive it of humor (you're not too good at that anyway). i was saying that for your views to be consistent, you have to recognize that i am not an asshole, but that your behaviors provoke me into being an asshole to you. if i am an asshole, it is becos of the way i react to you, not becos of who i am. that's what you say isnt it?
me, i choose to be harsh with you. becos it's impossible to be civil. you dont understand it. as you did not understand my tongue in cheek response. nor will you be able to understand this explanation of it either most likely.
im doing just fine in law school. thank you very much for asking
Meh...it's not about him, it's about you.
it's ALWAYS about me.
It's better for mental health to believe that eating Zuchinni will cure you. Psychosis can lead to more serious forms of mental disorders. Namely Schizophrenia.
No, no, you can still be an asshole. But my thinking means that you can change and I will give you the benefit of the doubt with almost every post. But that doesn't make you not an asshole in this moment or the past.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
dont hold your breath.
Bohm: "...it's the insight that does it, you see, the insight is not you, right? The insight being supreme intelligence is able to rearrange the very structural matter of the brain which underlies thought so as to remove that message which is causing the confusion, leaving the necessary information and leaving the brain open to perceive reality in a different way. But at present, it's blocked, the conditioning blocks us, because it creates a pressure to maintain what is familiar and old, and makes people frightened to consider anything new. So, reality is limited by the message which has already been deeply impressed upon the brain cells from early childhood. Now the insight actually removes the message which is causing this block.
Weber: And makes us then commensurable with it?
Bohm: It opens thought up to be fresh and new again so that it can operate rationally. One could say that to remain within this block is completely irrational. It's the result of pressure. You adopt the idea that this block is truth because it relieves the pressure of uncertainty.
Weber: I see, but when you see the term "rationally" or "reasonably" shall we be very clear? You don't mean what the Enlightenment meant, or Descarte, you mean something far beyond that.
Bohm: Reason may have two sources. One is the memory, which is mechanical, rather like a computer.
Weber: Combining the right things.
Bohm: Yes, we may have reason from there and that is subject to all the irrational pressures which are also in the memory: emotional pressures, fears, all those experiences and so on, and so that kind of reasoning is very limited. It can very quickly get caught in self-deception.
Weber: And to you that signifies a barrier. That is not what you're speaking of.
Bohm: That's right. But then there may be reason which flows from insight and a reason which is operating as an instrument of intelligence. That's an entirely different kind of reason.
Weber: It implies what? Order, but not mechanical order?
Bohm: Not mechanical order, and not limited by pressure, you see. Let's take a physicist. If he's been subjected to all these courses in quantum mechanics and pressures to think in this way: he'll be approved of if he does, disapproved of if he doesn't, he gets a job if he does, not if he doesn't, and so on and so on, the minute the idea occurs of thinking in another way, there will be an intense pressure which will blot it out. So, therefore, that isn't reason anymore, it's unreason.
Weber: But he'll think it's reason. He'll rationalize it.
Bohm: He'll think it's reason, yes, he'll say it's reason because he's blotted out all this pressure. It all happens very fast and automatically.
Weber: And he's confirmed by the consensus of the physical community?
Bohm: Well, everybody's doing the same thing, you see. They all reinforce each other and they all say it's right, but it's all the same.
Weber: Can we go back for a moment? This possible state that you speak of where intelligence or insight operates because it's unblocked because I've taken away the obstacles....
Bohm: It's insight that's taken away the obstacles, not me, right?
Weber: All right. What it would be in touch with, you imply is beyond the nonmanifest, is the source of the nonmanifest. Are you implying that that's the domain of, shall we call it "the sacred"?
Bohm: Well, it has been called the sacred. As we know "holy" is based on the word "whole", it could be called whole, or wholeness. See, the word "sacred" has unfortunately come to mean something different from its original root, that is to say a sacrifice that you make. Now it's closely connected with the idea of organized religions making sacrifices and things like that, and it has a great many connotations which are unfortunate.
Weber: But you feel the word whole, holy is....?
Bohm: Is a bit better, yes. ...
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
"Atom-smashing can occur only in the present and must occur ever afresh. The analogy of the atom with thought, and with an alleged thinker who authors thought, is crucial. The thinker is like the atom, cohering in time through its binding energy. When the binding energy of the physical atom is released in an accelerator, the resultant energy, staggeringly huge, becomes freed. Analogously huge amounts of binding energy are needed to create and sustain the "thinker" and to maintain his illusion that he is a stable entity. That energy, being tied up, is unavailable for other purposes, pressed into the service of what Bohm terms "self-deception"... Thought, or what Bohm terms the 3-dimensional mind, mistakenly believing itself autonomous and irreducible, requires and hence squanders vast amounts of cosmic energy on this illusion. Energy thus pre-empted cannot flow into other grooves. The consequence is an unsound cosmic ecology, pulluting the holomovement in at least two destructive directions. First, the holomovement misunderstands itself, choosing fiction over fact, and therefore enslaves itself. Second, the holomovement lacerates itself, substituting the isolated self for the unconsciousness of mankind in an abstraction founded on fallacy, enslaving others through its anger, greed, competitiveness and ambition. The result of both these missteps is a world of personal and interpersonal suffering."
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!