Beyond Belief 2006

Ahnimus

angelica wrote:

Oh man, Ahnimus, is that like saying "come up to my apartment and I'll show you my etchings"??

Uhh, lol. I don't know.

angelica

Ahnimus wrote:

Uhh, lol. I don't know.

Well, when I go to London to visit you, I'll be wary of the old "want to see my lab?" line.

Ahnimus

angelica wrote:

Well, when I go to London to visit you, I'll be wary of the old "want to see my lab?" line.

Since when are you coming to visit me?

ThumbingMyWay32

Ahnimus wrote:

Then, I'd suggest some brain exercises.

Is that what the Europeans told Columbus after he returned?

"Hey Columbus, you're not a scientist! The world's still flat moron!"

Of course, I guess that does make the first half of your statement correct.

Ahnimus

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Is that what the Europeans told Columbus after he returned?

"Hey Columbus, you're not a scientist! The world's still flat moron!"

Of course, I guess that does make the first half of your statement correct.

It wasn't scientists that insisted the world was flat. It was religious scholars that took the bible too literally.

angelica

Ahnimus wrote:

Since when are you coming to visit me?

Oh, you don't want people to know???? ......oh, I get it......ssssshhhhhhhhh.....

Ahnimus

angelica wrote:

Oh, you don't want people to know???? ......oh, I get it......ssssshhhhhhhhh.....

Haha, no I don't care if anyone knows. I'd just like to make sure that I can accomodate your visit.

ThumbingMyWay32

Ahnimus wrote:

It wasn't scientists that insisted the world was flat. It was religious scholars that took the bible too literally.

lol Then who is Anaximander? Speaking of scientist and astrology, the Sumerians certainly didn't conjure up a flat Earth from the Bible. lol Just shut up.

angelica

Ahnimus wrote:

Haha, no I don't care if anyone knows. I'd just like to make sure that I can accomodate your visit.

Don't worry, I'd let you know far in advance if I'm planning on coming to the neighbourhood. You'd have a say in the matter, too. We could even accomodate the visit at the nearest Tim Horton's. I have nothing in particular in mind at this time, so you can relax.........and start preparing your "lab".

Ahnimus

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

lol Then who is Anaximander? Speaking of scientist and astrology, the Sumerians certainly didn't conjure up a flat Earth from the Bible. lol Just shut up.

The sumerians weren't exactly scientists either.

Anaximander was the first to conceive a mechanical model of the world. In his model, the Earth floats very still in the centre of the infinite, not supported by anything. It remains "in the same place because of its indifference", a point of view that Aristotle considered ingenious, but false, in On the Heavens (II, 13). Its curious shape is that of a cylinder[8] of which its height is a third of its diameter. The flat top forms the inhabited world, which is surrounded by a circular oceanic mass

Doesn't sound like the tradition flat-earth theory. But I'm not suggesting that no scientist ever thought the earth might be flat. We are going back to a time in history when science was poorly structured. What was the point of this argument?

angelica

Ahnimus wrote:

The sumerians weren't exactly scientists either.



Doesn't sound like the tradition flat-earth theory. But I'm not suggesting that no scientist ever thought the earth might be flat. We are going back to a time in history when science was poorly structured. What was the point of this argument?

It was during the "modern times" that the spheres of science, morals and art become fully differentiated and when each sphere began to rapidly develop.
It was the discovery of America that apparently kicked off the era of discovery. Prior to that, these spheres were generally melded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_world

Ahnimus

angelica wrote:

It was during the "modern times" that the spheres of science, morals and art become fully differentiated and when each sphere began to rapidly develop.
It was the discovery of America that apparently kicked off the era of discovery. Prior to that, these spheres were generally melded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_world

You love calling everything spheres don't you?

wikipedia wrote:

Belief in a flat Earth is found in mankind's oldest writings. In early Mesopotamian thought, the world was portrayed as a flat disk floating in the ocean, and this forms the premise for early Greek maps like those of Anaximander and Hecataeus. Many theologians and biblical researchers maintain that writers of the Bible had a Babylonian world view according to which Earth is flat and stands on some sort of pillars. According to Dictionary of the Bible written by W. Browning "Hebrew cosmology pictured a flat earth, over which was a dome-shaped firmament, supported above the earth by mountains, and surrounded by waters. Holes or sluices (windows, Gen 7.11) allowed the water to fall as rain. The firmament was the heaven in which God set the sun (Ps 19.4) and the stars (Gen 1.14)"[4] Other theologians counter that the book of Isaiah alludes to the earth being circular or spherical (Isa 40.22).

angelica

Ahnimus wrote:

You love calling everything spheres don't you?

Everything that is a sphere, yes.

ThumbingMyWay32

Ahnimus wrote:

The sumerians weren't exactly scientists either.



Doesn't sound like the tradition flat-earth theory. But I'm not suggesting that no scientist ever thought the earth might be flat. We are going back to a time in history when science was poorly structured. What was the point of this argument?

Well, you were chastizing someone for believing the insights of a non-scientist on a scientific topic. That's when I mentioned Al Gore. I was really hoping you would be the type that didn't need analytical dissections of rather simple, indicative statements in order to follow along. I'll admit, I was wrong. I hate lecturers and I hate to lecture. That's why me and you will probably never get along.


That's why I like angelica. She's what we call "normies".

Ahnimus

angelica wrote:

Everything that is a sphere, yes.

So you think that art, science, emotion, physical reality, the habitat of the mind, and the habitat of spirits are all spherical in shape?

Ahnimus

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Well, you were chastizing someone for believing the insights of a non-scientist on a scientific topic. That's when I mentioned Al Gore. I was really hoping you would be the type that didn't need analytical dissections of rather simple, indicative statements in order to follow along. I'll admit, I was wrong. I hate lecturers and I hate to lecture. That's why me and you will probably never get along.


That's why I like angelica. She's what we call "normies".

Big difference, Al Gore isn't conducting experiments. He's getting the facts from scientists and sharing them with people.

Masaru Emoto is conducting uncontrolled experiments and pretending it proves something.

How you can say those are the same makes no sense.

ThumbingMyWay32

Ahnimus wrote:

So you think that art, science, emotion, physical reality, the habitat of the mind, and the habitat of spirits are all spherical in shape?

Spheres of thought.

ThumbingMyWay32

Ahnimus wrote:

Big difference, Al Gore isn't conducting experiments. He's getting the facts from scientists and sharing them with people.

Masaru Emoto is conducting uncontrolled experiments and pretending it proves something.

How you can say those are the same makes no sense.

Of course they're the same. Never has proven anything.

Ahnimus

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Of course they're the same. Never has proven anything.

How are they the same? I just stated how they are absolutely different.

Are you seriously or are you just trying to antagonize me? I'd really like to know your intentions.

angelica

Ahnimus wrote:

So you think that art, science, emotion, physical reality, the habitat of the mind, and the habitat of spirits are all spherical in shape?

You are a little bit on the literal side, aren't you? "Sphere" does have different definitions as well.