Beyond Belief 2006

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  • it different article same story same criteria... same argument
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • whispering handswhispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Is it even safe to come into this BB?? Seems you all are a bit harsh on each other.. kinda sad..but I love reading all the threads and responses just afraid to respond for fear of backlash.. geess everyone has an oopinion and a belief in things that not all others agree upon.. usually PJ's fans are so nice to one another is something I've noticed over the years.. but this BB seems to go for everyone's jugular.. what's up with that?
  • I'll back that up...I posted that National Geographic article..


    "All of the warming on Earth."

    A degree in 30 years. A degree less the 30 years prior. So we're back to 0 over the last 60 or 70 years. Ok, so you backed what up exactly? That those scientist who say that "it doesn't account for all of the warming on Earth" really aren't saying anything? What does "all of the warming on Earth" even mean? It's no warmer now than it was in 1940. Help me out. I'm a buck-o-5 soaking wet.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Is it even safe to come into this BB?? Seems you all are a bit harsh on each other.. kinda sad..but I love reading all the threads and responses just afraid to respond for fear of backlash.. geess everyone has an oopinion and a belief in things that not all others agree upon.. usually PJ's fans are so nice to one another is something I've noticed over the years.. but this BB seems to go for everyone's jugular.. what's up with that?


    I don't use enough emoticons. Atleast that's what a couple folks have told me. So here... :)
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Is it even safe to come into this BB?? Seems you all are a bit harsh on each other.. kinda sad..but I love reading all the threads and responses just afraid to respond for fear of backlash.. geess everyone has an oopinion and a belief in things that not all others agree upon.. usually PJ's fans are so nice to one another is something I've noticed over the years.. but this BB seems to go for everyone's jugular.. what's up with that?

    Personally for me, I'm sick of uncompromising skepticism. I was a global warming skeptic until recently, yet, others who have seen the same data as me remain skeptical for, what I believe, the only reason of politics or personal responsibility.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • whispering handswhispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    ahh humor.. I love it.. thanks for the reassurance:-)
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Personally for me, I'm sick of uncompromising skepticism. I was a global warming skeptic until recently, yet, others who have seen the same data as me remain skeptical for, what I believe, the only reason of politics or personal responsibility.


    What he fails to understand is that most people believe the concept of global warming. They don't agree with the agenda driven politics of Al Gore. They don't believe the world is ending.

    Then they get pissed off about me saying that and tell me I'm a fool when I don't believe global warming. (As Al Gore presents it) Some things are hard for people to grasp.

    Emoticon! :)
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    What he fails to understand is that most people believe the concept of global warming. They don't agree with the agenda driven politics of Al Gore. They don't believe the world is ending.

    Then they get pissed off about me saying that and tell me I'm a fool when I don't believe global warming. (As Al Gore presents it) Some things are hard for people to grasp.

    Emoticon! :)

    You keep mentioning a political agenda of Al Gore. What is it?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    You keep mentioning a political agenda of Al Gore. What is it?


    Is it easy asking the proverbial never-ending question? You've said absolutely nothing in your own defense expect to point of a quote by a nay-sayer in the middle of an article. Yet I'm the comedical interlude for you... Beautiful! :)

    Go back... Re-read what I've already said. Then turn the light switch on. Search for other things I've spoken of about global warming. It isn't hard. I've spoken volumes. Literally.

    Speaking of stoking egos... Find the thread about the costs of housing inmates vs. executions (trials included). Count how many times soulsinging insults me, then re-read what he just posted.

    This forum is pretty fun when you think about it. Or don't. Just catch the latest one-liner I left you and get your panties in a wad about it.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Is it easy asking the proverbial never-ending question? You've said absolutely nothing in your own defense expect to point of a quote by a nay-sayer in the middle of an article. Yet I'm the comedical interlude for you... Beautiful! :)

    Go back... Re-read what I've already said. Then turn the light switch on. Search for other things I've spoken of about global warming. It isn't hard. I've spoken volumes. Literally.

    Speaking of stoking egos... Find the thread about the costs of housing inmates vs. executions (trials included). Count how many times soulsinging insults me, then re-read what he just posted.

    This forum is pretty fun when you think about it. Or don't. Just catch the latest one-liner I left you and get your panties in a wad about it.

    You know, you could just answer the question.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    You know, you could just answer the question.


    I consider An Inconvenient Truth to be a compilation of mostly scientific theory (Yes, the Earth is a degree warmer since 1980. We get it.), presented as fact, to be interpreted in a manner as to push the agenda that he presented on January 27th, 2006. That agenda including the world ending in approximately 10 years. Of course, this isn't the first time he's set a timetable for this. We all know how problematic timetables can be anyway.

    So yes, both are actually using the same methods with the same type of intentions. And for the record (I'm almost certain of this) somewhere inside Al Gore's rather intelligent mind he believes he's a scientist. He may even think he's the first scientist. He has shown signs of this before.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I consider An Inconvenient Truth to be a compilation of mostly scientific theory (Yes, the Earth is a degree warmer since 1980. We get it.), presented as fact, to be interpreted in a manner as to push the agenda that he presented on January 27th, 2006. That agenda including the world ending in approximately 10 years. Of course, this isn't the first time he's set a timetable for this. We all know how problematic timetables can be anyway.

    So yes, both are actually using the same methods with the same type of intentions. And for the record (I'm almost certain of this) somewhere inside Al Gore's rather intelligent mind he believes he's a scientist. He may even think he's the first scientist. He has shown signs of this before.

    I don't understand that agenda. So you think that Al Gore is a fear-monger that wants everyone to believe the human species will be extinct in 10 years. Why? What does he have to gain from this? How is it politically motivated?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    What you are thinking of is Einsteins theory on the cosmological constant a.k.a. "dark matter" in the universe which was a solve all for forces in the universe. Later scientists believed this was in fact true. Then they thought it wasn't and recently there has been proof that it very well could be true. Einstein was never wrong. If he said there is a God, then I am not going to argue with the smartest person to ever live.

    I think Einstein was teh one who said we only use 10% or so of our, brain, and I think that it has been thoroughly proven that we do use all of it. Just because he was smart and right about a lot of stuff, does not mean that he was right about everything. Lots of big mistakes have been made by slavishly following every word and thought of big thinkers !!
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  • Ahnimus wrote:
    I don't understand that agenda. So you think that Al Gore is a fear-monger that wants everyone to believe the human species will be extinct in 10 years. Why? What does he have to gain from this? How is it politically motivated?


    lol It's not what I think. He says these things! Yes, he is a fear-monger. Yes, he believes the world will end in 10 years. He could've told me to not litter, help out the environment when I can and that global warming is real, and I would've believed him and done those things he asked of me. Instead, I still believe global warming exists, but I choose not to believe that the world is ending and I don't think humans are contributing to their own demise through CO2 emissions, etc etc etc etc etc etc.... IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Al Gore using general facts and leading into world devastation is a clear cut agenda driven argument. Do you have any idea how many people buy into that crap? Do you realize how many people would vote for him strickly because of the outlandish remarks he makes on this subject? Don't you know he'll take every advantage of this very fact as a springboard for the whitehouse. Preaching the end of times? Do you realize he's already made these bold predictions and they have come to pass before? Do I have to mention the global cooling argument of 30 years ago again? Or will I have to keep bringing it up until you get around to talking about it? Is this strickly a you ask, me answer, kind of relationship? Jesus, you say something next post.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • I think Einstein was teh one who said we only use 10% or so of our, brain, and I think that it has been thoroughly proven that we do use all of it. Just because he was smart and right about a lot of stuff, does not mean that he was right about everything. Lots of big mistakes have been made by slavishly following every word and thought of big thinkers !!


    Read this Ahnimus. I'll even let you feel good about yourself and put this into context with the Bush Administration if you'll allow me to use it for Al Gore.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    lol It's not what I think. He says these things! Yes, he is a fear-monger. Yes, he believes the world will end in 10 years. He could've told me to not litter, help out the environment when I can and that global warming is real, and I would've believed him and done those things he asked of me. Instead, I still believe global warming exists, but I choose not to believe that the world is ending and I don't think humans are contributing to their own demise through CO2 emissions, etc etc etc etc etc etc.... IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Al Gore using general facts and leading into world devastation is a clear cut agenda driven argument. Do you have any idea how many people buy into that crap? Do you realize how many people would vote for him strickly because of the outlandish remarks he makes on this subject? Don't you know he'll take every advantage of this very fact as a springboard for the whitehouse. Preaching the end of times? Do you realize he's already made these bold predictions and they have come to pass before? Do I have to mention the global cooling argument of 30 years ago again? Or will I have to keep bringing it up until you get around to talking about it? Is this strickly a you ask, me answer, kind of relationship? Jesus, you say something next post.

    He's not running for president.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Read this Ahnimus. I'll even let you feel good about yourself and put this into context with the Bush Administration if you'll allow me to use it for Al Gore.

    Yes, Einstein was wrong a few times, all people are wrong some times. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong whenever you want them to be.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Yes, Einstein was wrong a few times, all people are wrong some times. Doesn't mean everyone is wrong whenever you want them to be.


    It doesn't mean they're right because you believe it either. I'm willing to accept that logic. But realize, the way you just came back at me, that's where you leave it. That's where a lot of people leave it. I'm willing to see it from that perspective as well. You, and many others, see a particular topic from only one side, which is fine, then attack the hell out of me for speaking up about it from the other point of view, when you yourself haven't really conceded anything here. I'm actually liberal on some issues, but why get into a backpatting contest with everyone else? Also, using your logic, does that make me a liberal? I may add my 2 cents from time to time on something I agree with, but that's menial.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    He's not running for president.


    It's March 13th, 2007. A lot of people aren't running for President, yet.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    It doesn't mean they're right because you believe it either. I'm willing to accept that logic. But realize, the way you just came back at me, that's where you leave it. That's where a lot of people leave it. I'm willing to see it from that perspective as well. You, and many others, see a particular topic from only one side, which is fine, then attack the hell out of me for speaking up about it from the other point of view, when you yourself haven't really conceded anything here. I'm actually liberal on some issues, but why get into a backpatting contest with everyone else? Also, using your logic, does that make me a liberal? I may add my 2 cents from time to time on something I agree with, but that's menial.

    Depends if you took my initial statement literally, sounds like you did.

    Look, Einstein was not a neuroscientist and I'll never buy a physicists theories on cognition, nor would I buy a neuroscientists view of quantum mechanics. Pick your information wisely I say.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    It's March 13th, 2007. A lot of people aren't running for President, yet.

    So, what's your point?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    So, what's your point?


    Um... We're 20 months out from the '08 election. He has plenty of time. Personally, after his victory at the Oscar's, I'd rather see him persue an acting career. An Inconvenient Glory Hole: First Stall could be a start?
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Um... We're 20 months out from the '08 election. He has plenty of time. Personally, after his victory at the Oscar's, I'd rather see him persue an acting career. An Inconvenient Glory Hole: First Stall could be a start?

    So, I see your dislike for Gore goes beyond his "agenda".
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    So, I see your dislike for Gore goes beyond his "agenda".


    He's the eco version of the fucking Antichrist!

    bloody factmonger...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    He's the eco version of the fucking Antichrist!

    bloody factmonger...
    who, Ahnimus, or Al Gore? ;)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica wrote:
    who, Ahnimus, or Al Gore? ;)

    Ahnimus of course...

    ahahaa... I'm ragging on him today for some reason. part of a game of bs and mock postings earlier...

    but it was Gore... :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I think Einstein was teh one who said we only use 10% or so of our, brain, and I think that it has been thoroughly proven that we do use all of it.

    Actually there's no proof that he ever did and the myth was most likely created through a misinterpretation of something he said.
    Just because he was smart and right about a lot of stuff, does not mean that he was right about everything. Lots of big mistakes have been made by slavishly following every word and thought of big thinkers !!

    I agree with this.
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