Life in Iran

Ahnimus
Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
Did you know that more women get cosmetic surgery in Iran than in Hollywood?

Apparently the Iranian government has banned satellite TV, but most residents of Tehran do have satellite TV.

Many things are outlawed in Iran which the population ignores. I watched a documentary video recently called "Rageh in Iran" reported by BBC.

Rageh reveals the truth about Iranian culture. It's primarily the government that is struggling to maintain Islamic rule, while the majority of people are growing away from it.

I agree with the statement "If Iran is going to change, it's going to change from inside." I feel this statement is true for any nation. We can try to influence them in positive pro-active ways, but ultimate change will come from the heart of the people.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    from what I have seen and read, I feel this way too. BUT its only with the younger generation. granted, the younger generation is a large % of the population but the middle age and older crowd (from the days of the 70s) still chant "death to america" daily. change from within is on the horizon I hope.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I think it will change faster than we expect. To a certain degree I think the international pressure on Iran is intended to stop them from changing. It serves to increase hostility and especially towards the U.S.

    Of course, most of this tension is a result of the Iran-Iraq war in which Iraq was funded by the United States, Britain, France and so on, while Iran stood alone.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Rats of Multa
    Rats of Multa Posts: 250
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I think it will change faster than we expect. To a certain degree I think the international pressure on Iran is intended to stop them from changing. It serves to increase hostility and especially towards the U.S.


    this is an interesting observation. america needs enemies if she is going to wage [an] endless war. very astute, A,..
    we don’t know just where our bones will rest,
    to dust i guess,
    forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    This does not surprise me. The Iranians have been a sophisticated educated culture since ancient Persia. They have led the world with education and womens rights in times before our histories began. All the Iranians I have met have been warm lovely people, mostly Ba HAi ( I can never spell that), and all refugees. This is a great time to extend the hand of friendship to Iran and welcome them back. A much better option than threatening them into a defensive position where Bush will feel comfortable in goign to war against them.
    Music is not a competetion.
  • Trau
    Trau Posts: 188
    I think it is sad that they are not proud of their Persian noses.
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Trau wrote:
    I think it is sad that they are not proud of their Persian noses.

    I just loves me those rugs...

    Seriously, though, I'm hoping that last week's communication between the US and Iran and Syria will help open the door towards diplomacy. I'm all for peace.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • Trau
    Trau Posts: 188
    I'm all for babes being proud of who they are.
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Some great photos of Iran. Click on a region to view.

    http://www.dejkam.com/iran/

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    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Did you know that more women get cosmetic surgery in Iran than in Hollywood?

    Apparently the Iranian government has banned satellite TV, but most residents of Tehran do have satellite TV.

    Many things are outlawed in Iran which the population ignores. I watched a documentary video recently called "Rageh in Iran" reported by BBC.

    Rageh reveals the truth about Iranian culture. It's primarily the government that is struggling to maintain Islamic rule, while the majority of people are growing away from it.

    I agree with the statement "If Iran is going to change, it's going to change from inside." I feel this statement is true for any nation. We can try to influence them in positive pro-active ways, but ultimate change will come from the heart of the people.

    freedom can't be given or taken away. ;)
  • YourBuddy
    YourBuddy Posts: 59
    macgyver06 wrote:
    freedom can't be given or taken away. ;)

    Lies, freedom is never free and can be lost and gained, it has happened time and time again. Read a book.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    YourBuddy wrote:
    Lies, freedom is never free and can be lost and gained, it has happened time and time again. Read a book.

    freedom isn't free? can you please explain.

    also i do read and i feel it can be given away...but not taken.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    macgyver06 wrote:
    freedom isn't free? can you please explain.

    also i do read and i feel it can be given away...but not taken.
    So if someone tosses you in a cell in Gitmo and throws away the key, you're still free as a bird?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • YourBuddy
    YourBuddy Posts: 59
    macgyver06 wrote:
    freedom isn't free? can you please explain.

    also i do read and i feel it can be given away...but not taken.

    Freedom is taken away all the time, lets see how much freedom do you think the serfs had in the middle ages, or how much freedom did slaves have in america before the war. Did the japaneese in the internment camps have much freedom or the jews in concentration camps. Freedom is not free because there are always people who are willing to take it away. This country is losing freedoms slowly. Freedom does not come without a fight, and the fight is pretty much endless.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    hippiemom wrote:
    So if someone tosses you in a cell in Gitmo and throws away the key, you're still free as a bird?

    im thinking we have different ideas of freedom.

    IDEAS can't be locked up :)
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    macgyver06 wrote:
    im thinking we have different ideas of freedom.

    IDEAS can't be locked up :)
    Yes, we definitely do. Ideas and freedom are not the same thing to me.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    are you free if someone has you tied down and they are castrating you?
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    in all seriousness though...we talking about freedom from oppression?
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    lucylespian wrote:
    This does not surprise me. The Iranians have been a sophisticated educated culture since ancient Persia. They have led the world with education and womens rights in times before our histories began. All the Iranians I have met have been warm lovely people, mostly Ba HAi ( I can never spell that), and all refugees. This is a great time to extend the hand of friendship to Iran and welcome them back. A much better option than threatening them into a defensive position where Bush will feel comfortable in goign to war against them.

    Just becuase the young population is liberalizing and progressing, does not mean their current leadership dose not pose a serious and immediate threat. I'm sure American leaders in the military and in national government are aware of the democratic potential in the young Iranian population. I'm sure they would like nothing more than to sit back and let them deterine their own course. Problem is, they have a head of state who is hell bent on obtaining nuclear weapons. That sort of comlicates things a bit. It's not exactly fair for people to say that American's are war mongers becuase we are trying to hold Iran accoutable for their nuclear ambitions.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    NCfan wrote:
    Just becuase the young population is liberalizing and progressing, does not mean their current leadership dose not pose a serious and immediate threat. I'm sure American leaders in the military and in national government are aware of the democratic potential in the young Iranian population. I'm sure they would like nothing more than to sit back and let them deterine their own course. Problem is, they have a head of state who is hell bent on obtaining nuclear weapons. That sort of comlicates things a bit. It's not exactly fair for people to say that American's are war mongers becuase we are trying to hold Iran accoutable for their nuclear ambitions.

    Ahmenijad is certainly good at sticking bamboo under U.S. political fingernails.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    NCfan wrote:
    Just becuase the young population is liberalizing and progressing, does not mean their current leadership dose not pose a serious and immediate threat. I'm sure American leaders in the military and in national government are aware of the democratic potential in the young Iranian population. I'm sure they would like nothing more than to sit back and let them deterine their own course. Problem is, they have a head of state who is hell bent on obtaining nuclear weapons. That sort of comlicates things a bit. It's not exactly fair for people to say that American's are war mongers becuase we are trying to hold Iran accoutable for their nuclear ambitions.


    Sure, but does teh US have a mandate to hold Irran accountable for their nuclear ambitions. I would be much happier with Iran having nukes and just feeling smug about it, than I am with another American invasion and destruction of another country. And is the same sabre-rattling and aggression that was used around Saddam likely to produce a better outcome here ?? Remembering that the US is still the only country with a record of having used nuclear weapons in war. It's pretty easy to forget that, but the images at teh start of Terminator 2 were real in 1945, not Hollywood make-believe.

    I am suggesting that a peace inititive might be a better idea than a war initiative and that opening up trade opportunities is better than sanctions. Sanctions are like taking shit away from teenagers. They just breed resentment and anger, and once you have taken everything away , what do you do then?? Once you've got nothing, you got nothing to lose !!!!
    Music is not a competetion.

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