Forgiveness; Pardons

AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
Just learned this...

Pardons in the United States
In the United States, the pardon power for Federal crimes is granted to the President by the United States Constitution, Article II, Section 2, which states that the President:

shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.
All federal pardon petitions are addressed to the President who grants or denies the request. Typically, applications for pardons are referred for review and non-binding recommendation by the Office of the Pardon Attorney, an official of the Department of Justice. Since 1977, presidents have received about 600 pardon or clemency petitions a year and have granted around ten percent of these, although the percentage of pardons and reprieves granted varies from administration to administration (fewer pardons have been granted since World War II than historically had been the case).


See, where I'm from...

Pardons in Canada
Canadian Pardons are considered by the National Parole Board under the Criminal Records Act, the Criminal Code and several other laws. For Criminal Code crimes there is a three-year waiting period for summary offences, and a five-year waiting period for indictable offences. The waiting period commences after the sentence is completed. In principal the information provided above is correct but most convictions have addition time allocated due to court imposed fines, probation and other convictions.

My father was convicted of armed robbery when he was 17, he was tried as an adult and served 2 years less a day. 15 years later, he applied for a pardon and it was granted.

I heard a story about a man in California being convicted of violent crimes, 20 years later, he was caught stealing from blockbuster and it counted as his 3rd strike.
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  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    IMO your system looks pretty good. I wish we had that here. (USA)
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    IMO your system looks pretty good. I wish we had that here. (USA)

    Make it so.

    That's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to degrade the US or prop Canada up on a pedastal. But, I think the USA could bennefit from this system of forgiveness.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Make it so.

    That's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to degrade the US or prop Canada up on a pedastal. But, I think the USA could bennefit from this system of forgiveness.

    Forgiveness is very important, very hard to do, but definitely the best way to peace of mind. But, it's also important to note, forgiveness does not mean NOT holding one accountable for their actions.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    baraka wrote:
    Forgiveness is very important, very hard to do, but definitely the best way to peace of mind. But, it's also important to note, forgiveness does not mean NOT holding one accountable for their actions.

    Which isn't what I was implying at all. Pardons aren't about not holding someone accountable, it's about forgiving them for past mistakes after they've served their time.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Which isn't what I was implying at all. Pardons aren't about not holding someone accountable, it's about forgiving them for past mistakes after they've served their time.


    Well then that works for me :) There are variables of course, severity of crime, etc, but I think you and I agree on this.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Make it so.

    That's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to degrade the US or prop Canada up on a pedastal. But, I think the USA could bennefit from this system of forgiveness.


    Surely it could.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    baraka wrote:
    Well then that works for me :) There are variables of course, severity of crime, etc, but I think you and I agree on this.

    Well I don't know. I think there should be different waiting periods for different crimes, but all in all, everything is forgivable, people change if given the opportunity.

    So, let's start a quiet riot and change the world!
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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