Without the threat of death there's no reason to live at all
Ahnimus
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- Marilyn Manson
Ah, an explanation for the logically elusive suicide bomber.
Ah, an explanation for the logically elusive suicide bomber.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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I need to ponder it some more but it makes sense to me.
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I would assume its a Mason lyric, hence stating his name.
Interesting concept though.
only if you see death as a threat.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
It's from Marilyn Manson's The Reflecting God.
The lyric popped into my head when I was thinking about why humans would ever suicide bomb. I thought of this, if they aren't afraid of death, there is no reason to live, especially when the after-life is much more pleasurable.
Here are the rest of the lyrics.
your world is an ashtray
we burn and coil like cigarettes
the more you cry your ashes turn to mud
the nature of the leeches, the virgin's feeling cheated
you've only spent a second of your life
my world is unaffected, there is an exit here
I say it is and its true
there is a dream inside a dream,
I'm wide awake the more I sleep
you'll understand when I'm dead
I went to god just to see, and I was looking at me
saw heaven and hell were lies
when I'm god everyone dies
scar/ can u feel my power
shoot here and the world gets smaller
scar/scar/ can u feel my power
one shot and the world gets smaller
let's jump up on the sharp swords
cut away our smiles without the threat of death there's no reason to live at all
my world is unaffected, there is an exit here
I say it is and its true
there is a dream inside a dream,
I'm wide awake the more I sleep
you'll understand when I'm dead
I went to god just to see, and I was looking at me
saw heaven and hell were lies
when I'm god everyone dies
scar/ can u feel my power
shoot here and the world gets smaller
scar/scar/ can u feel my power
one shot and the world gets smaller
scar/scar/ can u feel my power
shoot here and the world gets smaller
shoot shoot shoot motherfucker
shoot shoot shoot motherfucker
each thing i show you is a piece of my death
no salvation,ah ah no forgiveness ah ah x11
(this is beyond your experience
I went to god just to see, and I was looking at me
saw heaven and hell were lies
when I'm god everyone dies
scar/ can u feel my power
shoot here and the world gets smaller
scar/scar/ can u feel my power
shoot here and the world gets smaller
scar/scar/ can u feel my power shoot here and the world gets smaller scar/scar/ can u feel my power
one shot and the world gets smaller
shoot shoot shoot motherfucker
shoot shoot shoot motherfucker
shoot shoot shoot motherfucker
shoot shoot shoot motherfucker
i still hate him though
Most of his songs have good messages in them, you just have to get passed all the showy crap. Take The beautiful people for example.
I dont want you and I dont need you
Dont bother to resist, Ill beat you
Its not your fault that youre always wrong
The weak ones are there to justify the strong
The beautiful people, the beautiful people
Its all relative to the size of your steeple
You cant see the forest for the trees
You cant smell
Your own shit on your knees
Hey you, what do you see?
Something beautiful, something free?
Hey you, are you trying to be mean?
If you live with apes, man, its hard to be clean
Theres no time to discriminate,
Hate every motherfucker
Thats in your way
The worms will live in every host
Its hard to pick which one they eat most
The horrible people, the horrible people
Its as anatomic as the size of your steeple
Capitalism has made it this way,
Old-fashioned fascism
Will take it away
Thanks thorns.
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Thanks love!!! Just did myself a little google search and then went a hunting through the cd collection. It's from the album Lest We Forget (The Best of).
I've got it on now.
And as to suicide bombing, well not that I could ever imagine wanting to do it myself, I can understand the thought process of someone that could. I've always considered that there are some who do this because the life that they have here "on earth" has been so full of violence and hatred and anger and loss that they do want to make others suffer with their death and get their chance to "join" loved ones in the afterlife. I struggle a bit more getting into the head space of some one who could do it simply because they think something better is waiting for them "on the other side". But I think that's because I don't believe there is an "other side".
Certainly though I think one has to be aware of just how different our lives are. When I think of children that are brought up in war zones, live through unmentionable horrors, lose loved ones and all hope in humanity and are then "recruited" by organizations that have something to offer them then I can see why they might see it as a solution to end their own suffering and make a statement. Not that I condone it. But I often reflect at just how lucky I am that I was able to grow up in Australia where it's been relatively violence free and how that just isn't the case for so many people in this world.
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their one-hit wonder song included lyrics of them kicking manson's ass.... manson wasn't so happy about it... he thought they were offensive...... that's when i figured that he wasn't as "dark" and "cold" as he portrayed himself.
my cousin had a friend who was a killer hot model.... says manson screwed her once but it only took him 2 minutes.... great story.
It is also a fairly powerfult statement that reflects something that all of us know deep down- that it is the fleeting nature of life that makes it all the more special.
Death gives life its beauty.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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As for the point about life being pointless without death, I would somewhat agree. Just as there must be evil to know good, there must be death to know life. Think of Tolkien's description of the immortal elves vs the mortal humans. The elves are aloof, set in routine and merely exist to a larger extent, while humans have the drive and will to really do things as they will die anyway, and know their time is limited. The brightest flame burns the quickest and all that.
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Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Would removing a few ribs really make masturbation a thing of the past?
Madonna is shooting vitamins with a needle into her blood stream like heroin now ..it's the nouveau hollywood rage apparently...
What would ying be without yang?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I remember the lyrics from the New Radicals song "You get what you give"
I know Manson isn't such a bad guy, I watched him speak about Columbine and he was pretty insightful.
Check out this clip of him on Family Guy
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g6EZjWdr3YA
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