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rigneyclanrigneyclan Posts: 289
edited December 2007 in A Moving Train
this is ridiculous, why can't the effin media give ron paul a chance??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgiLTdwGgA8&NR=1
7/16/06 7/18/06
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  • t206t206 Posts: 63
    rigneyclan wrote:
    this is ridiculous, why can't the effin media give ron paul a chance??

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgiLTdwGgA8&NR=1

    Sad isnt it? Just make sure everyone goes and donates to Paul on Dec 16th...they are expecting to raise between 5 and 10 mil $ that day.
    http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    All the mainstream news agencies essentially attack him when they have him on.
    All the other candidates they more or less chat with. RP gets grilled start to finish on all his mainstream interviews. Granted he is going against the system so to speak, but look at who owns the system. The top 1%....the elite little club of modern day slave masters.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    This seems a little wrong to me. You're making an argument against propaganda by posting a video that is obviously a propaganda piece itself. You're either in favor of or against propaganda. To me, there's no "right" kind of propaganda.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    same reason Kucinich never gets a chance.

    Money. Power. The two party system.

    No one in power wants to debate people...they might have to actually answer questions and look foolish, then the voters might pay attention and vote them out...then they wouldn't wield all that power anymore.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Saturnal wrote:
    This seems a little wrong to me. You're making an argument against propaganda by posting a video that is obviously a propaganda piece itself. You're either in favor of or against propaganda. To me, there's no "right" kind of propaganda.

    That's like saying there is no right or wrong only wrong.

    hmmm I doubt that is the case.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    That's like saying there is no right or wrong only wrong.

    hmmm I doubt that is the case.
    I don't think there's a right kind of propaganda, yea.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Saturnal wrote:
    I don't think there's a right kind of propaganda, yea.

    When it's the right message it's not exactly propaganda ;)

    "by the people for the people" remember that?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    When it's the right message it's not exactly propaganda ;)

    "by the people for the people" remember that?

    i agree.
    when someone has been unequivocly slanted by propaganda, you can't really say that calling a spade a spade and then using it to rally troops is "propaganda".

    We hear what you are saying, but the sentiment rings sour given the current atmosphere.
    Ron Paul is (by almost all accounts) poorly covered by the media for obvious reasons.

    You can't call hypocricy for the supporters rallying against that.

    The difference here is fundamental:
    The real propaganda is 100% baseless, false, and misleading

    the pro-ron-paul video hinges on fact -- the FACT that ron paul is being slandered by baseless propaganda!
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    i agree.
    when someone has been unequivocly slanted by propaganda, you can't really say that calling a spade a spade and then using it to rally troops is "propaganda".

    We hear what you are saying, but the sentiment rings sour given the current atmosphere.
    Ron Paul is (by almost all accounts) poorly covered by the media for obvious reasons.

    You can't call hypocricy for the supporters rallying against that.

    The difference here is fundamental:
    The real propaganda is 100% baseless, false, and misleading

    the pro-ron-paul video hinges on fact -- the FACT that ron paul is being slandered by baseless propaganda!

    It hinges on what again?
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Saturnal wrote:
    It hinges on what again?

    not sure what your getting at.

    If someone is spewing false and defamatory information repeatedly, how is it propaganda to point this out in a single counter-attack?
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    not sure what your getting at.

    If someone is spewing false and defamatory information repeatedly, how is it propaganda to point this out in a single counter-attack?
    that was a joke, don't worry about it
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