Just wondering.........

Nothingman54
Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
edited October 2006 in A Moving Train
Just wondering something, how many of you are for abortion and for stem cell?
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    I am not necessarily for abortion, I would definetly suggest that a woman look into other options other than abortion, but I am pro-choice. I also support stem cell research as well.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Both are wrong, both should be legal.
  • TheVoiceInside
    TheVoiceInside Posts: 361
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Both are wrong, both should be legal.




    why is stem cell wrong?
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Neither are wrong, both should be legal.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    TheVoiceInside wrote:
    why is stem cell wrong?

    Stem cell is not wrong. Destroying an embryo is. Just my opinion.

    If you want to extract stem cells from your embryos, knock yourself out. Just don't ask me to pay for it or to sanction it.
  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    I am pro-life when it comes to abortion.

    But I am also pro-stem cell research.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I personally wouldn't want my fiance or daughter of the future to get an abortion. That doesn't mean I don't think others who don't feel the same way I do, should be denied the right to have one. Stem Cells can only do good. There was a time when test tube babies was "playing God", and think of all the good that has done in the world
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  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    The reason I wanted to know was, how could you be for both???? One has to do with killing life and the other has to do with saving life, so how could someone be for both?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I guess that all depends when life starts whether or not you are "killing" a life
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    The reason I wanted to know was, how could you be for both???? One has to do with killing life and the other has to do with saving life, so how could someone be for both?
    One has to do with a woman controlling her own reproductive life.

    The other has to do with scientists trying to cure disease.

    I see no reason why either should be illegal.
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  • John Budge
    John Budge Posts: 259
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    The reason I wanted to know was, how could you be for both???? One has to do with killing life and the other has to do with saving life, so how could someone be for both?
    I don't think anyone is 'for' abortion. It's a private medical procedure that should be available for all women if they feel the need.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    The reason I wanted to know was, how could you be for both???? One has to do with killing life and the other has to do with saving life, so how could someone be for both?

    To me abortion is not killing a life. That is how I can be for both. I mean how can people be pro-death penalty and pro-life at the same time. They simply are and shouldn't have to justify their beliefs.
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  • Ebizzie
    Ebizzie Posts: 240
    Much like marijuana, abortion is a medical procedure intended to improve the quality of a patient's life. For a government to impose their own biased morality against those who are suffering (emotionally or physically) is flat out wrong. I tend to think less of people who have abortions, and have actually found myself even more disgusted by the procedure as I have had kids of my own. I still think that it's none of the government's business to intervene in someone's medical life.

    Stem cell research is the biggest breakthrough in medical science since the vaccination. The prospects for treatments of SO many diseases are SO promising and yet again our government stands in the way. The really sad thing to me is that 50% of these individuals who have the power to stop stem cell funding claim much stronger religious beliefs than I believe they really hold in their hearts. If you're a well educated Senator from Nebraska or Arkansas, were elected to office because of strict social conservatism rooted in your "faith", even though you may completely understand the need for/science behind stem cell research, you're forced to vote against it because of your wanting to stay in office. Public funding of stem cell research would obviously result in a great medical revolution in this country. These are the positive revolutions that the world expects a nation like America to export to its shores and borders. This is the technology and knowledge that America can share with the rest of the world to restore the association of dignity and promise with the American flag that has simply vanished in the past 5-10 years.
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  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    mammasan wrote:
    To me abortion is not killing a life. That is how I can be for both. I mean how can people be pro-death penalty and pro-life at the same time. They simply are and shouldn't have to justify their beliefs.


    Abortion is killing a life no matter what you want to believe. Its a fact, Its reality. You abort a baby, you killed the baby. Abortion in my opinon should not be a right for people. There is such thing as too many rights in life and killing a baby is abortion.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    Abortion is killing a life no matter what you want to believe. Its a fact, Its reality. You abort a baby, you killed the baby. Abortion in my opinon should not be a right for people. There is such thing as too many rights in life and killing a baby is abortion.
    Babies don't spring into being all of a sudden. Pregnancy is a process. Abortion halts that process before it produces a baby.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    Abortion is killing a life no matter what you want to believe. Its a fact, Its reality. You abort a baby, you killed the baby. Abortion in my opinon should not be a right for people. There is such thing as too many rights in life and killing a baby is abortion.

    I personally agree with you, but only because I believe it is a life. However, its not nearly fact the way you state it. Many people don't think that an unborn baby (at least for much of the pregnancy) is a "life". That's why I can understand their position. If I didn't believe it was a "life" I would be pro-choice. However, after taking quite a few biology courses, it seems clear to me that it is a "life". That's the only reason why I'm against abortion.

    I think instead of abortion being relied on, there should be other better options.

    I don't know if I'm for or against stem cell research, I don't know enough about it, but I think that I am for it.

    For the record, I'm against the death penalty.
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  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    yosi wrote:
    I personally agree with you, but only because I believe it is a life. However, its not nearly fact the way you state it. Many people don't think that an unborn baby (at least for much of the pregnancy) is a "life". That's why I can understand their position. If I didn't believe it was a "life" I would be pro-choice. However, after taking quite a few biology courses, it seems clear to me that it is a "life". That's the only reason why I'm against abortion.

    I think instead of abortion being relied on, there should be other better options.

    I don't know if I'm for or against stem cell research, I don't know enough about it, but I think that I am for it.

    For the record, I'm against the death penalty.


    I respect your opinion. I am 50/50 on the death penalty. Because, people have a choice to do good or bad things in life and when you decide you want to kill someone, then you should be ready for what ever happens. A baby does not have a choice, a baby has done nothing wrong in the world and a mother can just kill it if she wants.......
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    I respect your opinion. I am 50/50 on the death penalty. Because, people have a choice to do good or bad things in life and when you decide you want to kill someone, then you should be ready for what ever happens. A baby does not have a choice, a baby has done nothing wrong in the world and a mother can just kill it if she wants.......

    A man convicted of a crime and gets the death penalty, when in fact he is innocent, isn't given much of a chance either.
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  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    ledvedderman wrote:
    A man convicted of a crime and gets the death penalty, when in fact he is innocent, isn't given much of a chance either.


    I know thats why im 50/50 on the death penalty. Its not the death penalty that messed up its the system.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    ledvedderman wrote:
    A man convicted of a crime and gets the death penalty, when in fact he is innocent, isn't given much of a chance either.

    A little off topic, but did anyone see the Life of David Gale? Its exactly about what ledvedderman just said. Awesome movie.
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