Speaker at McCain rally says non-Christians want an Obama win
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Not at all surprising.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
From CNN Political Producer Tasha Diakides
A pastor at a McCain rally said non-Christians are hoping for an Obama win.
A pastor at a McCain rally said non-Christians are hoping for an Obama win.
DAVENPORT, Iowa (CNN) – A minister delivering the invocation at John McCain’s rally in Davenport, Iowa Saturday told the crowd non-Christian religions around the world were praying for Barack Obama to win the U.S. presidential election.
“There are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens,” said Arnold Conrad, the former pastor of Grace Evangelical Free Church in Davenport.
The remark was made before McCain arrived at the rally but the Republican nominee's campaign quickly put out a statement distancing itself from the remarks.
“While we understand the important role that faith plays in informing the votes of Iowans, questions about the religious background of the candidates only serve to distract from the real questions in this race about Barack Obama's judgment, policies and readiness to lead as commander in chief,” said McCain campaign spokesperson Wendy Riemann.
This incident comes a day after a Minnesota voter asked Senator McCain if Barack Obama was an Arab at a town hall in Lakeville, Minnesota and just three days after Lehigh GOP County Chairman Bill Platt made a speech at a McCain rally in Pennsylvania where he refered to the Democrat nominee for president as Barack Hussein Obama.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
From CNN Political Producer Tasha Diakides
A pastor at a McCain rally said non-Christians are hoping for an Obama win.
A pastor at a McCain rally said non-Christians are hoping for an Obama win.
DAVENPORT, Iowa (CNN) – A minister delivering the invocation at John McCain’s rally in Davenport, Iowa Saturday told the crowd non-Christian religions around the world were praying for Barack Obama to win the U.S. presidential election.
“There are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens,” said Arnold Conrad, the former pastor of Grace Evangelical Free Church in Davenport.
The remark was made before McCain arrived at the rally but the Republican nominee's campaign quickly put out a statement distancing itself from the remarks.
“While we understand the important role that faith plays in informing the votes of Iowans, questions about the religious background of the candidates only serve to distract from the real questions in this race about Barack Obama's judgment, policies and readiness to lead as commander in chief,” said McCain campaign spokesperson Wendy Riemann.
This incident comes a day after a Minnesota voter asked Senator McCain if Barack Obama was an Arab at a town hall in Lakeville, Minnesota and just three days after Lehigh GOP County Chairman Bill Platt made a speech at a McCain rally in Pennsylvania where he refered to the Democrat nominee for president as Barack Hussein Obama.
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at least their response is appropriate.
I honestly don't think the ads are doing a thing to add to the frenzy. There are a few people who just want to believe Obama is bad and not good for america. They don't care about the truth. I mean McCain got booed when he called Obama a decent man. That's the sad state of some in american politics. There will always be those who feel that Obama or McCain is the worst person in the world and nothing can change that. I wish they'd stop the ads that are insinuating certain things that aren't true, but then both sides would have to change their political campaigns.
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Recognition will increase the prestige of Peiping. Since Korean war no
country comparing in prestige to France has recognized Communist China.
France must consider the effect of its action. If France finds American
people react strongly, France must realize we are taking casualties every
day. Just a short time ago we found 7 tons of Chinese Communist made arms
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Secretary continued we do not believe agreement can be reached with China
through means adopted by France. Communist China does not respect its
agreements. President Kennedy felt we took French views into full account
over Laos. We expect our views to be considered by France now.
Secretary said Alphand had claimed recognition does not mean approval but it
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Communist China. US is aiding India resist Chinese Communist aggression.
Chicoms are active in subversion in Latin America. Secretary pointed out if
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SEATTLE -- More than six decades after 28 black soldiers were wrongly
convicted after a riot and lynching of an Italian in Seattle, the Army has
issued a formal apology.
"We had not done right by these soldiers," Ronald James, assistant secretary
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Relatives of the soldiers joined elected officials, military officers and
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people in a meadow near the old Fort Lawton parade grounds and chapel in
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All but two of the soldiers are dead. One, Samuel Snow of Leesburg, Fla.,
planned to attend the ceremony but wound up in the hospital instead because
of a problem with his pacemaker.
The convictions were overturned in October at the prodding of Rep. Jim
McDermott, D-Seattle, largely based on the book "On American Soil" published
in 2005 by Jack Hamann, a CNN and PBS journalist, and his wife Leslie about
the riot on the night of Aug. 14, 1944, and subsequent events at Fort
Lawton.
Dozens were injured in the melee that started with a scuffle between an
Italian prisoner of war and a black soldier from the segregated barracks
near the POW housing. A POW, Guglielmo Olivotto, was found hanged at the
bottom of a bluff the next day,.
The Army prosecutor was Leon Jaworski, who went on to become special
prosecutor in the Watergate scandal of the early 1970s.
Forty-three black soldiers were charged with rioting and three also were
charged with murder. Two defense lawyers were assigned to the case and given
two weeks to prepare without ever being shown an Army investigation
criticizing the way the riot was handled.
In the ensuing trial 28 men were convicted.
One of those attending the ceremony Saturday, Arthur Prevost of Houston,
said his father Willie, one of the convicted soldiers, never talked about
what had happened.
"I think he was embarrassed," Prevost said. "I wished he had told us."
Snow's son, Ray Snow, told the gathering his father felt no animosity for
the long-ago injustice.
"He was so honored" by the tribute, Ray Snow said. "We salute you for
remembering a travesty that took place."
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Absolutely! And such a person shouldn't be aloud to call himself a pastor.
Besides, is it just me or why do I get the impression that so many stupid people make their public appearance during this election campaign? Come on you American people, you can do better (no matter whom you're voting for); after all America has got some of the brightest, smartest men and women in the world, and I'm not just talking about Nobel Prize winners...
This is what really gets to me. I don't understand how the Republicans have fooled so many people into believing that they are the party of God. I've heard people on this board say that Republicans represent morality. And yet, when I asked for an explanation of this in another thread, no one answered.
the reason is b/c there are a lot of single issue christian voters. That issue is abortion plain and simple. The republicans traditionally say they are against abortion; therefore, they must always be correct about everything...the amount of margin of error that republicans who are pro-life is allowed is amazing to me. It's a sad truth. Then you have a few large / outspoken christian groups (moral majority etc...) who back republicans and if they do, then all Christians "must". I think that christians can do more to benefit society out of the government by volunteering and showing love than inside the government with mandates and legislation.
I think you're right. It seems to be all about abortion and gay marriage. That, and maybe the separation of church and state issues. (Although this one seems to me to be more of a local issue.)
But what I don't understand is how so-called Christians can then overlook things like the bombing of innocent people, the rape of the earth for the benefit of corporate greed, the extinction of entire species of animals, the death penalty, the lack of health care, the "fuck my neighbor if it doesn't benefit me" attitude, etc. How do these policies uphold Christian values? They don't.
And, regarding abortion, people seem to forget (or be in denial) that Republicans and Democrats alike get abortions, as do Christians.
it's all about abortion. Gay marriage is a little added fire...but abortion is THE issue...and in my mind, the repubs will never do a thing about it truly, b/c then they know they lose a core voting group if they ever get rid of abortion...they might actually have to try to appeal to christians another way.
You're absolutely right that those attitudes (bombing innocents, raping the earth etc...) dont reflect christian values...but trust me, for a large voting block Abortion is the greatest evil of our time. There are christian groups who are trying to save the earth, stop the war, help with health care; however, the biggest hot button issue will always come down to the unborn life. And there are repubs, dems, greens, christians, atheists etc... who get abortions...that doesn't mean that people will accept them or that it should be legal. There are people who arent christian who are against abortion too. But for the large majority of people abortion is the biggest issue... it doesn't matter if obama would be more fiscally responsible and get us out of debt, try to get families to come together, hold individuals accountalbe for actions, end the war, stop genocide in africa...if he's pro-choice...they won't vote for him at all....and that is sad.
It really is sad. It's sad not only that we give politicians carte blanche to be immoral in all other arenas just for the sake of this one issue, but also that we do this regardless of the fact that no one will never really end abortion.
I don't think this country will ever stand for abortion to be criminalized. But, even if it were, that wouldn't end abortion by any stretch of the imagination. Criminalization hasn't ended abortion in other countries, and it will never end it here.
Now, about that war....
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
So these pastors believe god is all powerful and so on...so how arrogant do you have to be to think you have seen something your god hasn't? like this dude is trying to protect his god, like he sees somethign his god hasn't.
religion really is the opiate of the masses.
Example is GW's push for government support of religious charities.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
i didn't realize they were killing people for their beliefs. ala http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/10/13/iraq.main/index.html or a little thing called 9-11.
they may be loud, vocal, but the political religious right (and the extreme left) are not killing other groups for their belief (and I don't put bush / cheney in that group...they are neo-cons) or lack there of so to say they are the most radical fundamentalist group in the world is a bit sensational.
the funny thing is, Obama is just as supportive of faith based charities...if not more.
The American Miltary has a HUGE Christian-based agenda and they use the Christian religion and god as part of their war-cry/battle incentive.
In fact there have been several lawsuits filed by soldiers who were descriminated against and denigrated; because they refused to tow the Christian line. A few were discussed right here in the MT, when the stories bacame a news story.
George W. Bush has routinely and repeatidly used his Christian god as a point of argument, manipulation, motivation and so-called salvation in his speeches and this Administration's agenda.
Then there's the demented Blackwater Group, which is owned and operated by Christian Extremists, operated with the a Christian Extremist agenda and who hire largely radical Christian "employees".
So let's not talk about how Christians aren't out there killing in the name of their god. They are. They're just not doing it in the same manner as Islamic Extremists.
How many people on this board consider themselves non-Christian and will be voting for Obama?
How many non-Christians ARE voting for Obama?
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Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Are you really trying to justify this guy? Pathetic.
No. But the title of the thread probably holds true with the reality as it's represented on this board.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I agree with this statement. Based on the title of the thread, I was gonna come in and say it's true. In the US, the non-Christian vote will probably go toward Obama. Not because he pals around with terrorists, but because it always goes toward the Democrat.
But after seeing what the dude said, well, it was not really about that.