"Obama Routs Clinton"

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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    my2hands wrote:
    the man has the magic... amazing speaker and presence with an incredible message of change and progress through unity

    Magic, yes. What Obama doesn't seem to have, as of yet, are any, you know, ideas.

    He's going to bring the nebulous concept of "change" to Washington. Yippee. What does he mean by that? Salisbury steak in the cafeteria on Tuesdays? Everyone wears plaid on Thursdays?

    I'd like some specifics before I'm sold. Other than "now bad, me good."
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  • callen wrote:
    there are leaks

    they can no longer control all commuication

    this is a serious threat.....

    He has a chance

    It's going to be another 49% / 51% election for Hillary courtesy of Diebold unless something miraculous happens imo.
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    It's going to be another 49% / 51% election for Hillary courtesy of Diebold unless something miraculous happens imo.

    You can only steal close elections.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Magic, yes. What Obama doesn't seem to have, as of yet, are any, you know, ideas.

    He's going to bring the nebulous concept of "change" to Washington. Yippee. What does he mean by that? Salisbury steak in the cafeteria on Tuesdays? Everyone wears plaid on Thursdays?

    I'd like some specifics before I'm sold. Other than "now bad, me good."

    i agree... but this is how the primarys work... platforms... then once the general gets started you start to roll out your more detailed plans...

    and i do like some of his policies already... such as raising the ss cap (no brainer in my world)


    however he is not progressive enough for me, but none are progressive enough to satisfy me...
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Eat it Billary...

    if i vote for obama can i get a discout on a few frame jobs ;)
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    my2hands wrote:
    i agree... but this is how the primarys work... platforms... then once the general gets started you start to roll out your more detailed plans...

    This is true. I'll be interested to see what happens going forward.
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Big brother won't allow Obama to win.

    It's going to be Hillary.

    wait and see.

    If he does win....it will be a miracle.

    Its a miracle he won in Iowa. Its a miracle he damn near won (probably did win) in New Hampshire. Its a mircle he beat hillary by damn near 30 freaking points in SC after trailing by 20 about a month ago. i believe in miracles ;) .

    i agree, hillary has the Old Boy Network behind her and if she loses, it will be a pleasant surprise. But i'm hopeful again.
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  • Rider
    Rider Posts: 129
    I like Obama and he will get my wife's vote too...........we'll see what happens soon
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    So we should just lie down and take it? We need to make it difficult for them to steal it.


    absolutely not, the classiness of Obama is pretty much shining through the hidious win at all cost clinton tactics.

    They have shills all over talking about how "race friendly" they are. Ok. Whatever. I have no doubt a lot of people are indebted to the Clintons or they have paid off a few people as sleazy as they are....all I know is that I hope Obama gets the democratic nomination. I'd feel a lot better with him as President than I would with Hillary. She is so outright phony it's incredible. If they were republicans...they'd already be out of the running. No republican would ever have the people defending their remarks like they've had. They'd be crucified with the stuff they've said recently.
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  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    I am 43 years old. I made my first political donation in my life on Saturday night. To Obama.

    (go me :) )
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I might go on the record and say his speech on Saturday night might be one of the greatest speeches I've ever heard.

    It's exactly what needed to be said, and said exactly what it should.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I might go on the record and say his speech on Saturday night might be one of the greatest speeches I've ever heard.

    It's exactly what needed to be said, and said exactly what it should.

    did you catch ron paul's speech?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM
  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    I might go on the record and say his speech on Saturday night might be one of the greatest speeches I've ever heard.

    It's exactly what needed to be said, and said exactly what it should.

    agreed. It really sounded very Presidential, IMO.

    We also watched John Edwards and "eh", not so much.

    When Hilary spoke, I about died laughing...even CNN cut to a break.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    did you catch ron paul's speech?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

    Ha! I'm glad you liked that. If I were to close my eyes and listen to that I would swear Ron Paul was Jim Mora.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    agreed. It really sounded very Presidential, IMO.

    We also watched John Edwards and "eh", not so much.

    When Hilary spoke, I about died laughing...even CNN cut to a break.

    I found it a bit odd that before Obama spoke, we hear from BILL, and then after Obama gives his amazing speech we hear Hillary give a speech that rivals McCains speech the night he won NH.
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    my2hands wrote:
    now that is how a fucking leader is supposed to speak and present himself


    the man has the magic... amazing speaker and presence with an incredible message of change and progress through unity


    i think his lack of washington experience is an asset... people are tired of the establishment... and he knows it

    I agree. I think Obama has a positive "make change for a brighter day" message, which is far more inspiring than the "everything is shit" message of Hillary. He makes you want to be proud to be an American.

    I think this is what Obama meant when he mentioned Reagan in a prior speech; Reagan spoke the same way during a down period in American moral (the late 70's).
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    fanch75 wrote:
    I agree. I think Obama has a positive "make change for a brighter day" message, which is far more inspiring than the "everything is shit" message of Hillary. He makes you want to be proud to be an American.

    I think this is what Obama meant when he mentioned Reagan in a prior speech; Reagan spoke the same way during a down period in American moral (the late 70's).

    For the very first time ever...I...agree...with...Fanch...


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