Breaking the Final Rule

MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
By Gary Hart

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-hart/breaking-the-final-rule_b_90420.html

It will come as a surprise to many people that there are rules in politics. Most of those rules are unwritten and are based on common understandings, acceptable practices, and the best interest of the political party a candidate seeks to lead. One of those rules is this: Do not provide ammunition to the opposition party that can be used to destroy your party's nominee. This is a hyper-truth where the presidential contest is concerned.

By saying that only she and John McCain are qualified to lead the country, particularly in times of crisis, Hillary Clinton has broken that rule, severely damaged the Democratic candidate who may well be the party's nominee, and, perhaps most ominously, revealed the unlimited lengths to which she will go to achieve power. She has essentially said that the Democratic party deserves to lose unless it nominates her.

As a veteran of red telephone ads and "where's the beef" cleverness, I am keenly aware that sharp elbows get thrown by those trailing in the fourth quarter (and sometimes even earlier). "Politics ain't beanbag," is the old slogan. But that does not mean that it must also be rule-or-ruin, me-first-and-only-me, my way or the highway. That is not politics. That is raw, unrestrained ambition for power that cannot accept the will of the voters.

Senator Obama is right to say the issue is judgment not years in Washington. If Mrs. Clinton loses the nomination, her failure will be traced to the date she voted to empower George W. Bush to invade Iraq. That is not the kind of judgment, or wisdom, required by the leader answering the phone in the night. For her now to claim that Senator Obama is not qualified to answer the crisis phone is the height of irony if not chutzpah, and calls into question whether her primary loyalty is to the Democratic party and the nation or to her own ambition.


STUPID. FUCKING. BITCH.
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    By Gary Hart

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-hart/breaking-the-final-rule_b_90420.html

    It will come as a surprise to many people that there are rules in politics. Most of those rules are unwritten and are based on common understandings, acceptable practices, and the best interest of the political party a candidate seeks to lead. One of those rules is this: Do not provide ammunition to the opposition party that can be used to destroy your party's nominee. This is a hyper-truth where the presidential contest is concerned.

    By saying that only she and John McCain are qualified to lead the country, particularly in times of crisis, Hillary Clinton has broken that rule, severely damaged the Democratic candidate who may well be the party's nominee, and, perhaps most ominously, revealed the unlimited lengths to which she will go to achieve power. She has essentially said that the Democratic party deserves to lose unless it nominates her.

    As a veteran of red telephone ads and "where's the beef" cleverness, I am keenly aware that sharp elbows get thrown by those trailing in the fourth quarter (and sometimes even earlier). "Politics ain't beanbag," is the old slogan. But that does not mean that it must also be rule-or-ruin, me-first-and-only-me, my way or the highway. That is not politics. That is raw, unrestrained ambition for power that cannot accept the will of the voters.

    Senator Obama is right to say the issue is judgment not years in Washington. If Mrs. Clinton loses the nomination, her failure will be traced to the date she voted to empower George W. Bush to invade Iraq. That is not the kind of judgment, or wisdom, required by the leader answering the phone in the night. For her now to claim that Senator Obama is not qualified to answer the crisis phone is the height of irony if not chutzpah, and calls into question whether her primary loyalty is to the Democratic party and the nation or to her own ambition.


    STUPID. FUCKING. BITCH.
    Gary Hart is CFR scum.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=NSi8eENRX7U&feature=related
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Nevermind wrote:

    :rolleyes:
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    :rolleyes:
    You guys can get upset all day at HIllary Clinton. But Obama isnt going to win.
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Nevermind wrote:
    You guys can get upset all day at HIllary Clinton. But Obama isnt going to win.

    Obama won Texas BTW...

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/7/11339/50182/559/471347
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Ron Paul won Louisiana by the way....
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Nevermind wrote:
    Ron Paul won Louisiana by the way....

    relevance?
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    relevance?
    About as much relevance as you saying Barack Hussein Obama won Texas.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Nevermind wrote:
    You guys can get upset all day at HIllary Clinton. But Obama isnt going to win.

    Honestly, I don't understand how Hillary gets nominated at this point. Back room dealings and questionable tactics can steal the nomination when it's close, but Obama is more or less kicking her ass.

    If the margin stays like this, I don't see how she pulls it off.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Nevermind wrote:
    You guys can get upset all day at HIllary Clinton. But Obama isnt going to win.
    ...and HillBilly won't beat McCain in November. :D
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Honestly, I don't understand how Hillary gets nominated at this point. Back room dealings and questionable tactics can steal the nomination when it's close, but Obama is more or less kicking her ass.

    If the margin stays like this, I don't see how she pulls it off.

    His margin grows tomorrow and Tuesday...
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    tybird wrote:
    ...and HillBilly won't beat McCain in November. :D
    Songbird McCain is a distraction to put a Democrat in office.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Nevermind wrote:
    No one is dumb enough to vote for Songbird McCain.

    You and Hillary might be the only two people on earth who think she could beat McCain head to head at this point.

    You don't realize how many people on the right DESPISE Hillary. There's no better way to energize the right than for the Dems to nominate Hillary. They will come out in droves to vote against her, which means for McCain. They'd vote for Satan himself over Hillary.

    If you believe otherwise, you are incredible naive.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    You and Hillary might be the only two people on earth who think she could beat McCain head to head at this point.

    You don't realize how many people on the right DESPISE Hillary. There's no better way to energize the right than for the Dems to nominate Hillary. They will come out in droves to vote against her, which means for McCain. They'd vote for Satan himself over Hillary.

    If you believe otherwise, you are incredible naive.
    He's right.....Nevermind is incorrect. The Democratic Party had this election set up so pretty for them about a year....but the Democratic Congress has done nothing....nothing, I say to make people to vote for a Democrat. The Big Mo' is gone for the Demos.

    P.S. I would vote for Satan before I would vote for HillBilly.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,417
    Nevermind wrote:
    About as much relevance as you saying Barack Hussein Obama won Texas.

    Why is it that people who don't like Obama use his middle name as a scare tactic? How come you don't use Hillary's or John's as well?
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Why is it that people who don't like Obama use his middle name as a scare tactic? How come you don't use Hillary's or John's as well?
    It sure does stir up a lot of controversy doesnt it?
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Nevermind wrote:
    It sure does stir up a lot of controversy doesnt it?

    Nope, just points out how ignorant people are that try to use that as something that matters.
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Nope, just points out how ignorant people are that try to use that as something that matters.
    Im not saying it matters. I just said his full name.
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Wait a minute, Obama's a muslim?
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Wait a minute, Obama's a muslim?
    Someone in this thread call him a Muslim?
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    You and Hillary might be the only two people on earth who think she could beat McCain head to head at this point.

    You don't realize how many people on the right DESPISE Hillary. There's no better way to energize the right than for the Dems to nominate Hillary. They will come out in droves to vote against her, which means for McCain. They'd vote for Satan himself over Hillary.

    If you believe otherwise, you are incredible naive.
    I guess we'll see soon wont we.
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Nevermind wrote:
    Someone in this thread call him a Muslim?

    Just goin along with the whole make fun of his middle name vibe goin on here. :)


    Smile, its free. :)
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • Nevermind wrote:
    You guys can get upset all day at HIllary Clinton. But Obama isnt going to win.
    Yes he is!

    Obama is going to win the VP slot on a Hillary ticket.

    :D
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Yes he is!

    Obama is going to win the VP slot on a Hillary ticket.

    :D

    I wouldn't exactly call that "winning."
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • I wouldn't exactly call that "winning."

    Hey, for a black man?

    I'm just saying man.
    I'm just saying.

    [really people, i don't want to hear your PC BS, a guy can make an off color joke (no pun) and not be a racist ... this is truth, PC or not.]
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    By Gary Hart

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-hart/breaking-the-final-rule_b_90420.html

    It will come as a surprise to many people that there are rules in politics. Most of those rules are unwritten and are based on common understandings, acceptable practices, and the best interest of the political party a candidate seeks to lead. One of those rules is this: Do not provide ammunition to the opposition party that can be used to destroy your party's nominee. This is a hyper-truth where the presidential contest is concerned.

    By saying that only she and John McCain are qualified to lead the country, particularly in times of crisis, Hillary Clinton has broken that rule, severely damaged the Democratic candidate who may well be the party's nominee, and, perhaps most ominously, revealed the unlimited lengths to which she will go to achieve power. She has essentially said that the Democratic party deserves to lose unless it nominates her.

    As a veteran of red telephone ads and "where's the beef" cleverness, I am keenly aware that sharp elbows get thrown by those trailing in the fourth quarter (and sometimes even earlier). "Politics ain't beanbag," is the old slogan. But that does not mean that it must also be rule-or-ruin, me-first-and-only-me, my way or the highway. That is not politics. That is raw, unrestrained ambition for power that cannot accept the will of the voters.

    Senator Obama is right to say the issue is judgment not years in Washington. If Mrs. Clinton loses the nomination, her failure will be traced to the date she voted to empower George W. Bush to invade Iraq. That is not the kind of judgment, or wisdom, required by the leader answering the phone in the night. For her now to claim that Senator Obama is not qualified to answer the crisis phone is the height of irony if not chutzpah, and calls into question whether her primary loyalty is to the Democratic party and the nation or to her own ambition.


    STUPID. FUCKING. BITCH.
    Gary Hart is and always has been a giant Tool.
  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    And we all know what Texas is going to do in November. Same as Wyoming, South Carolina, Georgia, Colorado, Mississippi, Virginia, Maryland, and all those other Red states Obama won in smoky caucus rooms where the entire party let alone the State does not cast a vote. He's going to lose all those States in the fall so gives a fuck. Try getting the Presidency if you can't win in California, New York, Massacusetts, and um....Florida IN ADDITION to losing the deep South and much of the mid west. Cant wait until your little fantasy ends whether it be June or November.
  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    Wait a minute, Obama's a muslim?
    Reality is the guy is probably an atheist. But oh...yeah.....he's a Christian...that's right. At least since the year he got married. Not before then. I just wish the guy would be honest for once. I dont think he is a muslim but he cant keep pretending he is a Jesus loving Christian. No one believes that shit. Not even him.
  • Barack HUSSEIN Obama will NOT win.......
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Why is it that people who don't like Obama use his middle name as a scare tactic? How come you don't use Hillary's or John's as well?
    Have you ever seen the childrens television series called Bill and Ben the flower pot men? They play little games with people.
    Hopefully no one bites when they play this game kiddies, because Bill, or wait is it Ben :confused: has the fastest report post finger going around.
  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    Barack HUSSEIN Obama will NOT win.......

    Gadolf Titler in 08!
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