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Russian Government Dissolved!

adam42381adam42381 Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,515
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
What does this mean for the US and the rest of the world? This has the ring of the beginning of a dictatorship to me! Putin has authority to basically put who he wants in power. Definitely something to keep an eye on.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20738670/
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    this is bad. putin has always bothered me. I feel sorry for the people who live in that country
  • FredFlintstoneFredFlintstone Posts: 193
    Russia has been going backwards towards dictatorship steadily since Putin took over. Scary stuff. The old KGB man is consolidating power.
    But fear not - GWB looked into his eyes and soul and determined he was a good man. That is enough evidence for me.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    FredFlintstone wrote:
    Russia has been going backwards towards dictatorship steadily since Putin took over. Scary stuff. The old KGB man is consolidating power.
    But fear not - GWB looked into his eyes and soul and determined he was a good man. That is enough evidence for me.

    what you rather bush declares war against putin? bush can do nothing right huh?
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    adam42381 wrote:
    What does this mean for the US and the rest of the world? This has the ring of the beginning of a dictatorship to me! Putin has authority to basically put who he wants in power. Definitely something to keep an eye on.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20738670/

    I think we should pull out of Iraq now and liberate Russia!

    Start with some 'sunshine in a can'! :D
  • adam42381adam42381 Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,515
    FredFlintstone wrote:
    But fear not - GWB looked into his eyes and soul and determined he was a good man. That is enough evidence for me.
    That's what I was thinking. Kinda scary, but I wouldn't put it past Bush to try to pull something like this if it was an option he had. Good thing the US Constitution doesn't provide clauses such as this.
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  • FredFlintstoneFredFlintstone Posts: 193
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what you rather bush declares war against putin? bush can do nothing right huh?


    It was a joke. Lighten up.

    Know your real enemies.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    FredFlintstone wrote:
    It was a joke. Lighten up.

    Know your real enemies.

    yea I know but damn. bush likes putin, he sucks. bush hates putin, war monger. im just sayin
  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    New PM announced
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6991053.stm
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this is bad. putin has always bothered me. I feel sorry for the people who live in that country

    sorry but....what the hell are you on about? oh, wait i can see your point.

    but to Russian people Putin has been a great president, i know because i've seen some news and also read statistics.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    adam42381 wrote:
    That's what I was thinking. Kinda scary, but I wouldn't put it past Bush to try to pull something like this if it was an option he had. Good thing the US Constitution doesn't provide clauses such as this.

    sigh are you kidding me? you think bush would try and dissolve our own government? what is wrong with you people
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    69charger wrote:
    I think we should pull out of Iraq now and liberate Russia!

    Start with some 'sunshine in a can'! :D


    Erm, on behalf of "my people" :D no thank you :p
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    genie wrote:
    sorry but....what the hell are you on about? oh, wait i can see your point.

    but to Russian people Putin has been a great president, i know because i've seen some news and also read statistics.

    the the hell are you on about? what does that mean?

    and good for the russian people. I still feel sorry for them. anytime freedom is taken away, it saddens me.
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    adam42381 wrote:
    What does this mean for the US and the rest of the world? This has the ring of the beginning of a dictatorship to me! Putin has authority to basically put who he wants in power. Definitely something to keep an eye on.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20738670/


    haha, how do you think Putin himself came to power???

    I'm all up for this, i have a good faith in Putin.....though it would've been nice if he ruled for a little bit more.
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the the hell are you on about? what does that mean?

    and good for the russian people. I still feel sorry for them. anytime freedom is taken away, it saddens me.

    When you say Russian people you mean Chechnyan right??

    as for Russian people who live in other parts of Russia apart from Chechnya they have freedom. and i know ;)
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    genie wrote:
    When you say Russian people you mean Chechnyan right??

    as for Russian people who live in other parts of Russia apart from Chechnya they have freedom. and i know ;)

    they do? not from what I have read. will they have freedom to pick a new leader? doesnt sound like it. do they have complete freedom of press and speech? not too sure about that either.
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    jlew24asu wrote:
    they do? not from what I have read. will they have freedom to pick a new leader? doesnt sound like it. do they have complete freedom of press and speech? not too sure about that either.

    ok, i think i was thinking with my arse before. you are right we haven't got complete freedom of press and speech.

    as for not being able pick a new leader. it doesn't mean the leader that's going to be chosen for us will be bad for us.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    genie wrote:
    ok, i think i was thinking with my arse before. you are right we haven't got complete freedom of press and speech.

    as for not being able pick a new leader. it doesn't mean the leader that's going to be chosen for us will be bad for us.

    if you say so. but me? I enjoy being able to freely choose who represents me. im not always happy with the outcome, but I at least I have a say.

    why do you seem ok with what putin is doing? dont you enjoy freedom?
  • adam42381adam42381 Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,515
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sigh are you kidding me? you think bush would try and dissolve our own government? what is wrong with you people
    I don't think he'd move for permanent dissolution, just dissolution of government in its current state. He'd then appoint all his cronies as he's already been doing just on a higher level.
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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    I actually think Putin has the authority to replace the prime minister under the russian constitution. The presidency in Russia is even more powerful than the US presidency in their own country. They have a pretty authoritarian tradition in that respect. Putin's rule is troubling, but in this one he's playing inside the rules I think.

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  • adam42381adam42381 Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,515
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    I actually think Putin has the authority to replace the prime minister under the russian constitution. The presidency in Russia is even more powerful than the US presidency in their own country. They have a pretty authoritarian tradition in that respect. Putin's rule is troubling, but in this one he's playing inside the rules I think.

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    Dan
    Well, I think it's obvious he is playing within the rules. It's not as if there was a total overthrow of government here. It's just troubling that he's elected to dissolve the government right after the information about their new bomb has been released.
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this is bad. putin has always bothered me. I feel sorry for the people who live in that country


    not anymore sorry than the people who live in THIS country!!!!
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    JamMastaE wrote:
    not anymore sorry than the people who live in THIS country!!!!
    why? I couldnt be happier
  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    jlew24asu wrote:
    why? I couldnt be happier


    yes,ignorance is bliss.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    JamMastaE wrote:
    yes,ignorance is bliss.

    you dont know me. I have 2 great jobs, my own successful business, a luxury condo that will be paid off in 5 years, no credit debt, and a nice big savings account and im not even 30. like I said, I couldnt be happier
  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    adam42381 wrote:
    Well, I think it's obvious he is playing within the rules. It's not as if there was a total overthrow of government here. It's just troubling that he's elected to dissolve the government right after the information about their new bomb has been released.
    I dont see what those two bits of information has to do with eachother. The dissolvement of government right before elections smacks of politicking and maneuvering. But where does the bomb fit in? Besides from Russia wanting to flaunt military cock to the world?

    Peace
    Dan
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sigh are you kidding me? you think bush would try and dissolve our own government? what is wrong with you people

    actually, im normally anti-whacko theories, but i have scant doubt that if bush and cheney thought they could get away with it, they would not hesitate to make themselves presidents for life with no checks or balances. ever hear of the unitary executive? bush has done more of this than dick nixon, and that's coming from a guy who thinks reagan's presidency was one of the worst we've had.
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    tear down the wall!
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    jlew24asu wrote:
    if you say so. but me? I enjoy being able to freely choose who represents me. im not always happy with the outcome, but I at least I have a say.

    why do you seem ok with what putin is doing? dont you enjoy freedom?

    meant to reply to this post earlier, but i kept getting interrupted by few people, so when i finally clicked to post my god damn answer it wasn't posted in here.

    I'm ok with what Putin is doing because he is slowly but gradually strated rebuilding the country.
    When i was in Russia, the freedom that i had was enough for me. I can't speak for everyone in Russia but i think average Russian person worries more about their salary ( being able to put some food on the table and provide for the family ) and stability in the country than anything else.
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