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When will the U.S. Finally Fall?

AiCPearlJamWeenAiCPearlJamWeen Posts: 785
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
I'm not into politics or anything like that because in my views the citizens get screwed out of something no matter who the president is. But here is a question one of my buddies brought up. When will the US finally fall? He backed up the question with saying that if you look into history a little bit big economic countries would fall soon after their peak. Look at Germany, Ancient Greece, Rome, Japan and the list goes on.

So when will the US hit a fatal down fall?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    probably next tuesday.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    probably next tuesday.

    Damn and I haven't finished stock piling my food, water, and weapons for when mass hysteria breaks out.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    I'm not into politics or anything like that because in my views the citizens get screwed out of something no matter who the president is. But here is a question one of my buddies brought up. When will the US finally fall? He backed up the question with saying that if you look into history a little bit big economic countries would fall soon after their peak. Look at Germany, Ancient Greece, Rome, Japan and the list goes on.

    So when will the US hit a fatal down fall?

    To be honest probably not in our lifetime.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i wish it would hurry up. I'm ready to take over.

    If you thought US emperialism was bad, wait until you see what I have in store, bitches.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    jlew24asu wrote:
    probably next tuesday.

    Shit, I've been planning on next Wednesday all of this time. I thought I had a full week.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    we already have
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jeffbr wrote:
    Shit, I've been planning on next Wednesday all of this time. I thought I had a full week.

    Tell me about it I had monday on in our office pool.
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  • rvprvp Posts: 779
    It has allready fallen, didn't you know that?? don't you read newspapers?? oh! right, freedom of speech in the us may not allow newspapers to print the good news, now the european union and asian countries rule, but soon all modern states will fall!
    .
    fuera de este mundo
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    how much oil is left in the world?
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    how much oil is left in the world?


    the bigger ? is probably..how vulnerable is it to attack




    :) a little bird told me
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    I'm not into politics or anything like that because in my views the citizens get screwed out of something no matter who the president is. But here is a question one of my buddies brought up. When will the US finally fall? He backed up the question with saying that if you look into history a little bit big economic countries would fall soon after their peak. Look at Germany, Ancient Greece, Rome, Japan and the list goes on.

    So when will the US hit a fatal down fall?


    You forgot Britain, easily the biggest colonising force the world has ever known. Arguably, Britain really lost America because the bulk of the East India Company's troops were already deployed, penetrating India further and further throughout the 1770s: this globally expansionist army was spreading itself too thinly and had to stick to priorities en route to empire (which came a century later).

    That's a reductive view, but it can be backed up to a degree.

    America could learn much from how the British handled and mishandled colonial and post-colonial affairs.
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,384
    mammasan wrote:
    Damn and I haven't finished stock piling my food, water, and weapons for when mass hysteria breaks out.


    don't forget the plastic and duct tape :)
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

    America could learn much from how the British handled and mishandled colonial and post-colonial affairs.

    america isnt trying to colonialize anything
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jlew24asu wrote:
    america isnt trying to colonialize anything

    You're right. They've only succeeded in making Chicagoans illiterate.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gue_barium wrote:
    You're right. They've only succeeded in making Chicagoans illiterate.

    why do you constantly throw out personal attacks yet are the first one to cry about it when someone throws it back at you?
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jlew24asu wrote:
    why do you constantly throw out personal attacks yet are the first one to cry about it when someone throws it back at you?

    That wasn't a personal attack. It wasn't an attack at all. It does beg the question, "Why can't Jlew read?"

    I just assume it's a Chicago thing.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    You forgot Britain, easily the biggest colonising force the world has ever known. Arguably, Britain really lost America because the bulk of the East India Company's troops were already deployed, penetrating India further and further throughout the 1770s: this globally expansionist army was spreading itself too thinly and had to stick to priorities en route to empire (which came a century later).

    That's a reductive view, but it can be backed up to a degree.

    America could learn much from how the British handled and mishandled colonial and post-colonial affairs.


    This makes far too much sense to be taken seriously on here. ;) Way too much sense!
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gue_barium wrote:
    That wasn't a personal attack. It wasn't an attack at all. It does beg the question, "Why can't Jlew read?"

    I just assume it's a Chicago thing.

    it is a personal attack. maybe you should stop with them.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jlew24asu wrote:
    it is a personal attack. maybe you should stop with them.

    I have nothing against you. I do have a problem with the fact that adult illiteracy is a serious problem in this country, and it is probably a good sign that America is on the wane.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gue_barium wrote:
    I have nothing against you. I do have a problem with the fact that adult illiteracy is a serious problem in this country, and it is probably a good sign that America is on the wane.

    what the fuck is your problem. this is a message board. you have an issue with my post then address it.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what the fuck is your problem. this is a message board. you have an issue with my post then address it.

    The topic is about the Fall of America. I'm citing illiteracy as a possible sign that that is happening. Your post tied into that nicely.
    Thank you.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gue_barium wrote:
    The topic is about the Fall of America. I'm citing illiteracy as a possible sign that that is happening. Your post tied into that nicely.
    Thank you.

    and how so Dr?
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what the fuck is your problem. this is a message board. you have an issue with my post then address it.

    do you see the irony in your posts? ... you are always one to say something antagonizing and yet you're crying here? ... what gives?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    polaris wrote:
    do you see the irony in your posts? ... you are always one to say something antagonizing and yet you're crying here? ... what gives?

    I admit when I'm wrong and will be happy to explain myself if I'm called out. and even if I antagonize I will explain why or apologize and move on.
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    to be quite honest.........i am ready for another country to step up and be number 1.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    You forgot Britain, easily the biggest colonising force the world has ever known. Arguably, Britain really lost America because the bulk of the East India Company's troops were already deployed, penetrating India further and further throughout the 1770s: this globally expansionist army was spreading itself too thinly and had to stick to priorities en route to empire (which came a century later).

    That's a reductive view, but it can be backed up to a degree.

    America could learn much from how the British handled and mishandled colonial and post-colonial affairs.

    Jlew is under the impression that your post is a bit more than a "reductive view."
    This is America we're talking about, Fins. America, goddamit.
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  • SilverSeedSilverSeed Posts: 336
    I don't believe America will fall like the past powers. Globalization has meant there's too many hands crossing too many coffers. Our relative stance in the world is not as powerful as, say, after WWII but as long as capitalism is the game there will be a strong America.
    When Jesus said "Love your enemies" he probably didn't mean kill them...

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gue_barium wrote:
    Jlew is under the impression that your post is a bit more than a "reductive view."
    This is America we're talking about, Fins. America, goddamit.

    That's a reductive view, but it can be backed up to a degree.

    America could learn much from how the British handled and mishandled colonial and post-colonial affairs.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

    America could learn much from how the British handled and mishandled colonial and post-colonial affairs.

    hehe you said learn...
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jlew24asu wrote:
    That's a reductive view, but it can be backed up to a degree.

    America could learn much from how the British handled and mishandled colonial and post-colonial affairs.

    Yes? Does that not make you curious what may have happened back then? Do you know? What were the Brits doing around the world in those days? Were they doing it with their military? If so, to what extent? Do you know anything of the Zulus? Has Britain fallen? No, not exactly. So, what exactly was wrong with colonial and post-colonial Britain that America might learn from their current endevours in the Middle East? Hmmm.
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