Barack and Rev.Wright

melodyman22

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

Cosmo

melodyman22 wrote:

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

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Then... anyone who sat in Ted Haggard's chuch secretly has sex with male prostitutes, too... right?

Smellyman2

Who is this Reverand Wright you speak of?

first I have heard of it.

fugawzi

melodyman22 wrote:

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

YAWN...this is such a non-issue, I mean come on it's really lame. Is there even any evidence to suggest that he was actually there while Wright was spouting off? If so please show it to me, don't just claim it. If this is such an issue why does McCain get away with his Pastor Hagee connection? You know, Pastor Hagee, the guy who ENDORSED John McCain with McCain's acceptance, the guy who said we should preemptively attack Iran, the guy who said Katrina fucked up New Orleans because there was going to be a gay parade there, the guy who doesn't believe in global warming, the guy who puts down just about every religion except his own bat shit religion.

How about Sarah Palin and her witchdoctor preacher Thomas Muthee, the guy who she claims helped her get elected Governor, the guy who claimed a woman who was a witch was causing car accidents in Africa and waged a witch hunt against her, the guy who's touching her and praying for her to be protected from "witchcraft" in a video.

This is a bullshit issue anyway, get over it and start talking about real issues that affect us. You know, like our fucked up economy, these fucked up wars, and our lack of health care, amongst other things. I'm so sick of this stupid fucking argument about Wright.

Jack_C_Gregory

Yes, while you're at it, why don't you also start complaining about Obama not wearing a flag pin during the primaries.

inmytree

melodyman22 wrote:

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

take a look at John Hagee and get back to me, would ya...?

cornnifer

This whole thing was dumb when it was hammered in the primaries. Its even dumber now. Thank You Hilary Clinton for using up all the republican bullets during the primary rendering these arguments completely useless now.

McLame is about finished.

Brain of J.Lo

inmytree wrote:

take a look at John Hagee and get back to me, would ya...?

Exactly.

And remember Jerry Falwell? McCain denounced him a few years ago, calling him an "agent of intolerance". This is an apt description, and I was so impressed that a member of the GOP would say that. It was part of the reason I respected McCain.

But, as he began preparing for this election, he changed his mind and decided that Jerry Falwell is an ok guy, simply because he knew he couldn't get elected without that cesspool of intolerance that is the Christian Right. He basically said this much on Meet the Press, and he even spoke at a commencement ceremony for Liberty University.

So if you want to talk about Rev. Wright, and you want to examine the religious intolerance that you see in his words, we have to talk about the corrupt and hateful religious leaders that McCain has chosen to align himself with.

Brain of J.Lo

Cosmo wrote:

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Then... anyone who sat in Ted Haggard's chuch secretly has sex with male prostitutes, too... right?

And they also looooove crystal meth.

eyedclaar

Why do white people get so upset when a black man provides them with an accurate history lesson? Hell, not just history. If anything, the Barack campaign has shown racism to still be alive and well.

mammasan

melodyman22 wrote:

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

Yes Rev Wright's comments where wrong but what about McCain's association with the Rev. John Hagee. Hagee has made ant-Catholic remarks, anti-Islamic remarks and anti-semetic remarks. McCain stated that he was proud to have Hagee's support after the Rev endorsed him even though Hagee had a history of making infamitory remarks about Catholics, Muslims and Jews. It was not until the media made this public that McCain that McCain withdrew any praise for Hagee, pretty much the same thing Obama did. So if you or any other voter is offended by Obama's association with Wright then I would hope that you would be equally offended by McCain's association with Hagee.

Gonzo1977

Witch Doctors, Racists, Drugged out Pedophile Preachers, Terrorists, Sharks, Aliens, SATAN

Do you really believe this shit?

Does this tabloid bullshit really influence your vote?

Do you really think that either of these Men should be discredited because they've crossed paths with any of the above throughout their political and personal lives?

It's stupid?

Give me some issues.

Tell me that you won't vote for Obama or McCain because you don't like their vision of this country....Then maybe we can have a discussion.

Until then

Take this innane & irrelevant bullshit and throw it back in the fucking trash where it belongs.

mammasan

Gonzo1977 wrote:

Witch Doctors, Racists, Drugged out Pedophile Preachers, Terrorists, Sharks, Aliens, SATAN

Do you really believe this shit?

Does this tabloid bullshit really influence your vote?

Do you really think that either of these Men should be discredited because they've crossed paths with any of the above throughout their political and personal lives?

It's stupid?

Give me some issues.

Tell me that you won't vote for Obama or McCain because you don't like their vision of this country....Then maybe we can have a discussion.

Until then

Take this innane & irrelevant bullshit and throw it back in the fucking trash where it belongs.

AMEN!!!!

harrymanback

melodyman22 wrote:

If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. quote]


I think supporting the confederate flag atop the South Carolina capital and voting against MLK day speaks for itself.

When asked by a reporter how he felt about the Confederate flag during a 2000 campaign event, McCain replied: "Personally, I see the flag as symbol of heritage."

as for MLK day, he voted against the creation of the holiday to honor King, and later defended Arizona Republican Governor Mecham's rescinding of the state holiday in honor of King created by his Democratic predecessor.

orig_long red

This thread should be deleted out of sheer irrelevance.

digster

harrymanback wrote:

When asked by a reporter how he felt about the Confederate flag during a 2000 campaign event, McCain replied: "Personally, I see the flag as symbol of heritage."

True, but that was also the McCain who came before the cameras later on, after he had lost in the primary season, and stated that in regards to the Confederate flag issue, he realized he had compromised his principles as a way to score votes, and publicly said so. That was the McCain I liked; someone who was so isgusted in abandoning his principles to score votes that he felt he had to be publicly honest with his slip-up later. What the hell happened to that guy?

iamica

fugawzi wrote:

YAWN...this is such a non-issue, I mean come on it's really lame. Is there even any evidence to suggest that he was actually there while Wright was spouting off? If so please show it to me, don't just claim it. If this is such an issue why does McCain get away with his Pastor Hagee connection? You know, Pastor Hagee, the guy who ENDORSED John McCain with McCain's acceptance, the guy who said we should preemptively attack Iran, the guy who said Katrina fucked up New Orleans because there was going to be a gay parade there, the guy who doesn't believe in global warming, the guy who puts down just about every religion except his own bat shit religion.

How about Sarah Palin and her witchdoctor preacher Thomas Muthee, the guy who she claims helped her get elected Governor, the guy who claimed a woman who was a witch was causing car accidents in Africa and waged a witch hunt against her, the guy who's touching her and praying for her to be protected from "witchcraft" in a video.

This is a bullshit issue anyway, get over it and start talking about real issues that affect us. You know, like our fucked up economy, these fucked up wars, and our lack of health care, amongst other things. I'm so sick of this stupid fucking argument about Wright.

Thank you. That issue is so six months ago. We've got bigger problems to worry about, and bigger issues to discuss.

blondieblue227

Ah, but remember Barack’s a Muslim not a Baptist.
(that was a joke)

my guy spews BS sometimes. it really erks me. Does that mean I’ll ditch him for not agreeing with me on every thing? No.

Thecure

can we just agree that as long as america is divided in their views and they are strong views that teh leaders are going to have to sell out alittle of their soul.

Uncle Leo

Did you guys hear about that Willie Horton guy? I'm not so sure about voting for Dukakis

Dirtie_Frank

eyedclaar wrote:

Why do white people get so upset when a black man provides them with an accurate history lesson? Hell, not just history. If anything, the Barack campaign has shown racism to still be alive and well.

Accurate history lesson from Wright? So white americans invented HIV/AIDS to get rid of black....right

Racism is wrong both ways whether it is white against black or black against white.

DixieN

It is true that this issue has been overdone. We really have been through it. It has been one of the two things I have had the hardest time "forgiving" Obama about, but no one's perfect. And compared to McCain, he's a choir boy, no matter what Wright said. Has anyone read the Rolling Stone story on McCain?

http://www.rollingstone.com/issue1063

Read about the make-believe maverick and his past. Obama--choir boy.

Dirtie_Frank

DixieN wrote:

It is true that this issue has been overdone. We really have been through it. It has been one of the two things I have had the hardest time "forgiving" Obama about, but no one's perfect. And compared to McCain, he's a choir boy, no matter what Wright said. Has anyone read the Rolling Stone story on McCain?

http://www.rollingstone.com/issue1063

Read about the make-believe maverick and his past. Obama--choir boy.

using a liberal rag for a source does not make it fact.

Fighting Hellfish

I didn't know sean hannity is PJ fan. welcome to the board, Sean

Dirtie_Frank

The editor who wrote that magazine and talks about his POW time like it was a cakewalk needs to wake up. I don't care who you are refusing to leave is probably not an easy thing to do. Give me a break. (refering to RS myths about JM).

anotherclone

melodyman22 wrote:

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

I think you're the one that ought to wake up actually. You're about a year too late on this argument. Or maybe you haven't heard? He's already talked at great length about this.

ccRyderzz

melodyman22 wrote:

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

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CitizenRick

melodyman22 wrote:

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

His mom...and grandparents who raised him are as white as white gets. You hear two snippets of soundbites and this is what you're basing it on?

How responsible of you. You are the one who should wake up!

LikeAnOcean

melodyman22 wrote:

This really blows my mind. How Barack can sit in a church. Where a Rev. Talks down America and white people, and its ok ? If Mcain was too sit at a racist church. All the black people woud be saying hes a racist. For Barack too sit and listen to this, he must believe some of it. This alone. Should be reason not too vote for him. Wake up people. Baracks a fake.

Dude, you totally nailed it. Obama hates white people and America!

I'm changing my vote. :cool: