This is agreat example of why Islamic Terrorists don't duck with China

NCfan

BEIJING, China (Reuters) -- China executed a former drug and food safety chief on Tuesday for corruption in an unusually swift sentence which will serve as a warning amid a series of health scandals that have stained the "made in China" brand.

The Supreme People's Court approved the death sentence against Zheng Xiaoyu, 62, who was convicted of taking bribes worth some 6.5 million yuan ($850,000) from eight companies and dereliction of duty, Xinhua news agency said.

His execution marked the first time China has imposed a death sentence on an official of his rank since 2000.

"Zheng Xiaoyu's grave irresponsibility in pharmaceutical safety inspection and failure to conscientiously carry out his duties seriously damaged the interests of the state and people," Xinhua cited the high court as stating.

"The social impact has been utterly malign," the court said, adding that Zheng's confession and handing over of bribes were not enough to justify mercy. Watch why China imposed the ultimate penalty on Zheng »

Yan Jiangying, spokeswoman for the State Food and Drug Administration, said the case had brought only shame to the watchdog. "This kind of serious case of law breaking by a small minority of corrupt elements, as far as the entire system is concerned, really made us feel ashamed," she said.

"But these cases revealed several problems, and I think we need to seriously reflect on what lessons we can draw."

Zheng, head of administration from 1998 to 2005, was sentenced on May 29 and his appeal was heard last month.

Under rules introduced at the start of this year, the supreme court also reviews and can quash death sentences, a power previously in the hands of provincial-level high courts. But this time the supreme court spent little time endorsing the execution.

The unusually harsh sentence and its prompt enforcement reflect the pressure on Beijing from domestic and international alarm about consumer safety after a series of breaches and deaths involving toxins in food, medicines and other products.

Yan admitted China faced a huge safety problem.

"As a developing country, China's food and drug supervision work began late and its foundations are weak. Therefore, the food and drug safety situation is not something we can be optimistic about," she said.

"We must ensure that those who have power fulfil their duties and responsibilities, and if anyone abuses their power they will be punished," Yan added. "Officials in key departments will change posts on a rotating basis."

Investigators found Zheng and his subordinates abused new rules in renewing drug production licenses to squeeze kickbacks from companies.

His misdeeds led to approval of many medicines that should have been blocked or taken from the market, including six fake drugs, the court found.

Last week, a court handed down a suspended death sentence on one of Zheng's subordinates on the same charges. Another senior administration official was jailed for 15 years in November for taking bribes and illegal gun possession.

Despite repeated official pledges to get tough, new cases keep coming to light. Up to half of the water used in coolers in the capital Beijing may not be as pure as manufacturers claim, the China Daily reported on Tuesday.

But these were isolated incidents which did not broadly mean Chinese goods and especially its exports were unsafe, insisted Lin Wei, deputy head of the quality inspection bureau's import and export food safety division.

"We are confident we can guarantee that Chinese products are of good quality and cheap, yet safe and healthy," he added.

mammasan

Because they are both equally fucked up when it comes to the treatment of their fellow man.

Cosmo

No.
It's because China does not 'Spread Chinese' all over the Middle East... yet.
When you see Chinese culture and their government meddling with Arab political affairs... and when China always sides with Israel on every grievence issued against them (no matter what)... and when Chinese made jets and helicopters with the Star of David stenciled on their fuselages fire missiles whose shattered remnants say, 'Made In China' printed on them... THEN, you will see the Islamic Fundamentalists blowing up Chinese shit.

darkcrow

Cosmo wrote:

No.
It's because China does not 'Spread Chinese' all over the Middle East... yet.
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although they do protect the government of dafur to slaughter thousands of their own people....

they have also been accused of "slave practicies" by the africans who have been working in chinese run mines in various countries across the continent.

Cosmo

darkcrow wrote:

although they do protect the government of dafur to slaughter thousands of their own people....

they have also been accused of "slave practicies" by the africans who have been working in chinese run mines in various countries across the continent.

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Then, they (the Chinese) should be targeted by the people they are oppressing.
And as for 'Spreading Chinese', when you start to see McWang Burgers cropping up in Tehran... that's when you'll start to see suicide car bombs in Beijing.

my2hands

Cosmo wrote:

No.
It's because China does not 'Spread Chinese' all over the Middle East... yet.
When you see Chinese culture and their government meddling with Arab political affairs... and when China always sides with Israel on every grievence issued against them (no matter what)... and when Chinese made jets and helicopters with the Star of David stenciled on their fuselages fire missiles whose shattered remnants say, 'Made In China' printed on them... THEN, you will see the Islamic Fundamentalists blowing up Chinese shit.

ditto

inmytree

are you saying since China holds it's Officials accountable, that Tar-or-ists leave them alone...?

interesting...

NCfan

Cosmo wrote:

No.
It's because China does not 'Spread Chinese' all over the Middle East... yet.
When you see Chinese culture and their government meddling with Arab political affairs... and when China always sides with Israel on every grievence issued against them (no matter what)... and when Chinese made jets and helicopters with the Star of David stenciled on their fuselages fire missiles whose shattered remnants say, 'Made In China' printed on them... THEN, you will see the Islamic Fundamentalists blowing up Chinese shit.

I call bullshit. The Chinese are every bit the infedel bastards that the West is. The Chinese don't obey the Islamic laws that govern Al Queda and other militant groups who are waging Jihad from Africa and Europe to the Middle East and Asia.

The reason the Chinese are off limits is becuase they are acting as a leash on the United States. Imagine if there were 50,000 Chinese troops in Iraq or Afghanistan right now - playing by the Chinese rules of engagement. Or imagine if the Chinese were trying to push sanctions through the UN on Iran. The terrorist realize that the Chinese, the world's next superpower, act as a counter weight to the United States - and it serves them better to keep the status quo for now.

my2hands

inmytree wrote:

are you saying since China holds it's Officials accountable, that Tar-or-ists leave them alone...?

interesting...

i think murdering someone is a poor way of holding officials accountable

NCfan

inmytree wrote:

are you saying since China holds it's Officials accountable, that Tar-or-ists leave them alone...?

interesting...

Yeah dude...

godpt3

Besides... the Islamic terrorists and the Chinese have a common enemy: America. Don't doubt for a second that WWIII is coming, and that China, not the Middle East, will be the battle grounds.

mammasan

godpt3 wrote:

Besides... the Islamic terrorists and the Chinese have a common enemy: America. Don't doubt for a second that WWIII is coming, and that China, not the Middle East, will be the battle grounds.

China will not even have to launch a single missile or shoot a single bullet to defeat us. All it will have to do is pull all the US currency it has out of our banks and our economy will fucking crumble.

RainDog

I see a slight flaw in the logic here. Why would members of an ideology whose chief weapons include killing themselves fear being killed?

godpt3

mammasan wrote:

China will not even have to launch a single missile or shoot a single bullet to defeat us. All it will have to do is pull all the US currency it has out of our banks and our economy will fucking crumble.

the only reason they haven't already is that they know their economy would go down the tubes with America's. We are their biggest customer, after all. Mutual Assured Destruction works with more than just nuclear weapons.

mammasan

godpt3 wrote:

the only reason they haven't already is that they know their economy would go down the tubes with America's. We are their biggest customer, after all. Mutual Assured Destruction works with more than just nuclear weapons.

True but they can find other customers. Once our economy is fucking tanked it would be extremely hard to find other investors.

Cosmo

NCfan wrote:

I call bullshit. The Chinese are every bit the infedel bastards that the West is. The Chinese don't obey the Islamic laws that govern Al Queda and other militant groups who are waging Jihad from Africa and Europe to the Middle East and Asia.

The reason the Chinese are off limits is becuase they are acting as a leash on the United States. Imagine if there were 50,000 Chinese troops in Iraq or Afghanistan right now - playing by the Chinese rules of engagement. Or imagine if the Chinese were trying to push sanctions through the UN on Iran. The terrorist realize that the Chinese, the world's next superpower, act as a counter weight to the United States - and it serves them better to keep the status quo for now.

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That's what I'm saying... so, you basically called 'bullshit' on yourself.
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The Chinese do not obey Islamic law... the difference being.... the Chinese are NOT involved with 'Spreading the Chinese way of life' in the Middle East. The Chinese are NOT paying off Arab government officials for favors. The Chinese are NOT in Iraq or Afghanistan... they are NOT pushing economic sanctions on Iran. And if they were doing all of that... and we did what the Chinese do regarding Middle Eastern Affairs... the Terrorists would be burning Chinese flags in the streets and saying, 'Death to China'.
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Don't you remember the 1980s? Remember when the Soviets were in Afghanistan? Remember whose flags were getting burned in the Middle East (other than Israel's)? Hint: it was red and had a little hammer and sickle on it.

OutOfBreath

NCfan wrote:

I call bullshit. The Chinese are every bit the infedel bastards that the West is. The Chinese don't obey the Islamic laws that govern Al Queda and other militant groups who are waging Jihad from Africa and Europe to the Middle East and Asia.

The reason the Chinese are off limits is becuase they are acting as a leash on the United States. Imagine if there were 50,000 Chinese troops in Iraq or Afghanistan right now - playing by the Chinese rules of engagement. Or imagine if the Chinese were trying to push sanctions through the UN on Iran. The terrorist realize that the Chinese, the world's next superpower, act as a counter weight to the United States - and it serves them better to keep the status quo for now.

Careful. You seem to be lamenting that the US is not a one-party police state who don't give a fuck about human rights or civilian deaths. "We would be winning had our hands not been tied from doing what it takes" is still and always will be a lame argument, as long as one requires civilized behaviour from one's army.

As for how China executing one of their officials for doing a bad job (which is pretty over the top if you ask me) is keeping islamist terrorists off their land, you tell me. They are so badass the suicide bombers are afraid they might get killed? Double? I see no reason to look at China's practices and hope for America to be the same.

Cosmo is on the money. China doesn't interfere, China doesn't get targetted. Pretty simple really.

And by the way, China do have muslims in their western province of Xinjiang (or East Turkestan), where chinese authorities claim terrorist actions by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement. http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/etim.cfm
Xinjiang, like Tibet, seek independence. So here, China might even see islamist actions by seperatist groups with theocratic motives, or affiliates from Afghanistan or other places, and do so already. But that would be because China here is the oppressive enemy. Not because China is "godless" (which it officially is) and/or "badass".

Peace
Dan

Cosmo

OutOfBreath wrote:

Careful. You seem to be lamenting that the US is not a one-party police state who don't give a fuck about human rights or civilian deaths. "We would be winning had our hands not been tied from doing what it takes" is still and always will be a lame argument, as long as one requires civilized behaviour from one's army.

As for how China executing one of their officials for doing a bad job (which is pretty over the top if you ask me) is keeping islamist terrorists off their land, you tell me. They are so badass the suicide bombers are afraid they might get killed? Double? I see no reason to look at China's practices and hope for America to be the same.

Cosmo is on the money. China doesn't interfere, China doesn't get targetted. Pretty simple really.

And by the way, China do have muslims in their western province of Xinjiang (or East Turkestan), where chinese authorities claim terrorist actions by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement. http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/etim.cfm
Xinjiang, like Tibet, seek independence. So here, China might even see islamist actions by seperatist groups with theocratic motives, or affiliates from Afghanistan or other places, and do so already. But that would be because China here is the oppressive enemy. Not because China is "godless" (which it officially is) and/or "badass".

Peace
Dan

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I know. As an American... I am GLAD we are NOT like the fucking Chinese. i hate it when people say shit like, "It's okay if the government spies on me... i'm not doing anything wrong". That what the SOVIET Government used to do. I don't want to be like the Soviets. I hated the Soviets. Where in the deninitions of 'Liberty' and 'Freedom' does spying on your own people come in?
And I don't like terrorist guerilla tactics. So, what do we do... we give the insurgents uniforms, tanks, artillery and aircraft to make it a 'Fair Fight'? I know what we don't do... we don't lose what is supposed to make us the 'Good Guys' in this thing. By us becoming as bad as the bad guys just make it a battle between two evil forces. I vote we do not take that path.

OutOfBreath

Cosmo wrote:

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I know. As an American... I am GLAD we are NOT like the fucking Chinese. i hate it when people say shit like, "It's okay if the government spies on me... i'm not doing anything wrong". That what the SOVIET Government used to do. I don't want to be like the Soviets. I hated the Soviets. Where in the deninitions of 'Liberty' and 'Freedom' does spying on your own people come in?
And I don't like terrorist guerilla tactics. So, what do we do... we give the insurgents uniforms, tanks, artillery and aircraft to make it a 'Fair Fight'? I know what we don't do... we don't lose what is supposed to make us the 'Good Guys' in this thing. By us becoming as bad as the bad guys just make it a battle between two evil forces. I vote we do not take that path.

Now where do I get my "Cosmo for president" pin? I'd put it on my jacket right now. I'm not american, but you know.

Peace
Dan

Kann

I know it's already been said, but the most striking thing in this thread is the question of why would a suicide bomber be afraid of the death penalty?
And also that the ends never justified the means (unless you're a dark independant super hero, or you live in medieval times).
edit : and also that until now China have not meddled with Islamist's interests so they are all glad to leave the other one alone bug the common enemy, (but this is changing with Thailand and shit that is flying in s.e. asia).

Abuskedti

NCfan wrote:

BEIJING, China (Reuters) -- China executed a former drug and food safety chief on Tuesday for corruption in an unusually swift sentence which will serve as a warning amid a series of health scandals that have stained the "made in China" brand.

The Supreme People's Court approved the death sentence against Zheng Xiaoyu, 62, who was convicted of taking bribes worth some 6.5 million yuan ($850,000) from eight companies and dereliction of duty, Xinhua news agency said.

His execution marked the first time China has imposed a death sentence on an official of his rank since 2000.

"Zheng Xiaoyu's grave irresponsibility in pharmaceutical safety inspection and failure to conscientiously carry out his duties seriously damaged the interests of the state and people," Xinhua cited the high court as stating.

"The social impact has been utterly malign," the court said, adding that Zheng's confession and handing over of bribes were not enough to justify mercy. Watch why China imposed the ultimate penalty on Zheng »

Yan Jiangying, spokeswoman for the State Food and Drug Administration, said the case had brought only shame to the watchdog. "This kind of serious case of law breaking by a small minority of corrupt elements, as far as the entire system is concerned, really made us feel ashamed," she said.

"But these cases revealed several problems, and I think we need to seriously reflect on what lessons we can draw."

Zheng, head of administration from 1998 to 2005, was sentenced on May 29 and his appeal was heard last month.

Under rules introduced at the start of this year, the supreme court also reviews and can quash death sentences, a power previously in the hands of provincial-level high courts. But this time the supreme court spent little time endorsing the execution.

The unusually harsh sentence and its prompt enforcement reflect the pressure on Beijing from domestic and international alarm about consumer safety after a series of breaches and deaths involving toxins in food, medicines and other products.

Yan admitted China faced a huge safety problem.

"As a developing country, China's food and drug supervision work began late and its foundations are weak. Therefore, the food and drug safety situation is not something we can be optimistic about," she said.

"We must ensure that those who have power fulfil their duties and responsibilities, and if anyone abuses their power they will be punished," Yan added. "Officials in key departments will change posts on a rotating basis."

Investigators found Zheng and his subordinates abused new rules in renewing drug production licenses to squeeze kickbacks from companies.

His misdeeds led to approval of many medicines that should have been blocked or taken from the market, including six fake drugs, the court found.

Last week, a court handed down a suspended death sentence on one of Zheng's subordinates on the same charges. Another senior administration official was jailed for 15 years in November for taking bribes and illegal gun possession.

Despite repeated official pledges to get tough, new cases keep coming to light. Up to half of the water used in coolers in the capital Beijing may not be as pure as manufacturers claim, the China Daily reported on Tuesday.

But these were isolated incidents which did not broadly mean Chinese goods and especially its exports were unsafe, insisted Lin Wei, deputy head of the quality inspection bureau's import and export food safety division.

"We are confident we can guarantee that Chinese products are of good quality and cheap, yet safe and healthy," he added.

ridiculous to use this to keep your painting of the world clear. These islamic terrorists you imagine are suicide bombers.. they really don't fear the death penalty

We are at war with the Middle East.. it still supprizes and appauls you when they fire back.. Amazing!

If we had friends in the Middle East - these "Terrorists" you so want to be at war with - would have no place to hide.

So we keep killing the poeple we need help from.. And now you want us to Kill Alberto Gonzales to show how tough we are... or maybe Dick Cheney? Or Hilary?