Winning in Iraq, Losing in Washington

NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
NY Post

July 26, 2007 -- TO a military professional, the tactical progress made in Iraq over the last few months is impressive. To a member of Congress, it's an annoyance.
The herd animals on Capitol Hill - from both parties - just can't wait to go over the cliff on Iraq. And even when the media mention one or two of the successes achieved by our troops, the reports are grudging.

Yet what's happening on the ground, right now, in Baghdad and in Iraq's most-troubled provinces, contributes directly to your security. In the words of a senior officer known for his careful assessments, al Qaeda's terrorists in Iraq are "on their back foot and we're trying to knock them to their knees."

Do our politicians really want to help al Qaeda regain its balance?

Gen. David Petraeus and his deputies sharply prioritized the threats we face in Iraq: Al Qaeda is No. 1, and Iran's Shia proxies are No. 2. Our troops hunt them relentlessly. And we don't face our enemies alone: Iraq's security forces have begun to pick up their share of the fight.

A trusted source in Baghdad confirmed several key developments that've gone largely unreported. Here's what's been happening while "journalists" focused on John Edwards' haircuts:

* Al Qaeda lost the support of Iraq's Sunni Arabs. The fanatics over-reached: They murdered popular sheiks, kidnapped tribal women for forced marriages, tried to outlaw any form of joy and (perhaps most fatally, given Iraqi habits) banned smoking. In response, the Arab version of the Marlboro Man rose up and started cutting terrorist throats.

* Since the tribes who once were fighting against us turned on al Qaeda, our troops not only captured the senior Iraqi in the organization - which made brief headlines - but also killed the three al Turki brothers, major-league pinch-hitters al Qaeda sent into Iraq to save the game.

Oh, and it emerged that the Iraqi "head" of the terrorists was just a front - in the words of one Army officer, Omar al Baghdadi was "a Wizard of Oz-like creation designed to give an impression that al Qaeda has Iraqis in its senior ranks."

* Al Qaeda has been pushed right across Anbar, from the once Wild West to the province's eastern fringes. The terrorists are still dug in elsewhere, from the Diyala River Valley to a few Baghdad neighborhoods - but, to quote that senior officer again, "our forces have been taking out their leaders faster than they can find qualified replacements."

Even the Democrats yearning to become president admit, when pressed, that al Qaeda's a threat to America. So why didn't even one of them praise the success of our troops during their last debate?

But let's be fair: Congressional Republicans, terrified of losing their power and glory and precious perks, haven't rushed to applaud our progress, either. They'll give up Iraq, as long as they don't have to give up earmarks.

* It isn't only al Qaeda taking serious hits. After briefly showing the flag, Muqtada al-Sadr fled back to Iran again, trailed by his senior deputies. Mookie's No. 2 even moved his family to Iran. Why? Though he's been weak in the past, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is now green-lighting Iraqi operations against the Jaish al Mahdi, the Mookster's "Mahdi Army."

With its descent into criminality and terror, the Mahdi Army, too, has been losing support among Iraqis - in this case, among Shias.

And Iraq's security forces increasingly carry the fight to the militia:

* The Iraqi Police Tactical Support Unit in Nasiriyah came under attack by Mahdi Army elements accustomed to intimidating their enemies. Supported by a brave (and tiny) U.S. advisory team, the police commandos fought them off. Instead of a walkover, the militia thugs hit a wall - and got hammered by airstrikes, for good measure. Then the Iraqi police counter-attacked. The Mahdi Army force begged for negotiations.

* In Mosul, Iraqi army and police units stuck to their guns through a series of tough combat engagements, with the result that massive arms caches were seized from the terrorists and insurgents. In Kirkuk, Iraqi police reacted promptly to last week's gruesome car-bombing - in time to stop two other car bombs from reaching their intended targets.

* In Baghdad, the surge isn't only about American successes - Iraqi security and intelligence forces conducted a series of hard-hitting operations against both al Qaeda and Iran-backed Special Group terrorists.

What were you, the American people, told about all this? Well, The New Republic published a pack of out-of-the-ballpark lies concocted by a scammer claiming to be a grunt in Baghdad. Our soldiers, he wrote, spent their time playing games with babies' skulls, running over dogs for fun and mocking disfigured women in their mess hall.

Anyone who knows our troops or has visited Iraq could instantly spot the absurdities in this smear and the soldiers in the unit denied that any of it happened - but The New Republic (which refuses to produce its source) isn't exactly staffed by military veterans.

The editors wanted to believe evil about our men and women in uniform, and ended up doing evil to our troops. (Those editors ought to be sentenced to spend August in Baghdad with the infantrymen they defamed, cleaning out military port-a-johns in the 130-degree heat.)

Is success suddenly guaranteed in Iraq? Of course not. The situation's still a bloody mess. But it's also more encouraging than it's been since the summer of 2003, when the downward slide began.

Gen. Dave Petraeus and his subordinate commanders are by far the best team we've ever had in place in that wretched country. They're doing damned near everything right - with austere resources, despite the surge. And they're being abandoned by your elected leaders.

Maybe the next presidential primary debate should be held in Baghdad.
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  • Yep we are definately "winning" in Iraq just like we were "winning" In vietnam and if it wasn't for those whining anti-war people we would be just fine.
    ya - thats the ticket.


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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    The old Murdoch fanfare: "Things are improving in Iraq". Note the characteristic dig at the rest of the media, who are mocked as '"journalists" focused on John Edwards' haircuts'.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Winning Iraq? You live on planet earth don't you?

    By the way, Washington isn't being lost, it was sold - to big business.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    So basically the opposing party should congratulate the actual government for the current job?
    When, at your workplace, you undertake an unnecessary task and majorly fuck up for 4 years destroying lives and throwing lots of money in the waste and just begin (after 4 years) to actually make progress, do your collegues congratulate you? Does your boss even congratulate you?
    I think everyone in the west (and I mean everyone, not just americans) hope this will end soon and nicely. But I doubt anyone will congratulate bush for a job well done.
  • gaack....reality is fading...must pull at straws to retain warped sanity.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    You have to look at the realistic long term results of the tactical decisions being made now to get an assessment of current effects.
    Such as:
    Arming the Sunnis to defeat Al Qaeda today... what happens when Al Qaeda is defeated or driven out of Iraq? Do you disarm the Sunnis? How? Waht are the consequences of this?
    ...
    I'm not 'Hoping we lose'... I'm pointing out that... yeah... we win every military encounter we face with the insurgents... but, you have to remember, the U.S. military did not lose one battle with the Viet Namese (and do even try to argue Tet... the U.S. did not lose one inch in that offensive).
    You are basically cheering for a field goal in the middle of the first quarter and claiming victory.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Did anyone catch the writer-historian on the Daily Show last night?

    The Nixon administration had declared/concluded, among themselves, the Vietnam war unwinnable in, get this, 1971.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    Did anyone catch the writer-historian on the Daily Show last night?

    The Nixon administration had declared/concluded, among themselves, the Vietnam war unwinnable in, get this, 1971.

    I wonder how those Swift Boat Veterans for Bush feel about this?

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    gue_barium wrote:
    Did anyone catch the writer-historian on the Daily Show last night?

    The Nixon administration had declared/concluded, among themselves, the Vietnam war unwinnable in, get this, 1971.
    ...
    From what I remember... the Army had submitted its findings in 1969.
    The question that the White House and Pentagon should have been asking was:
    How immoral is it to send draftees over to Viet Nam after 1969?
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    War, or the prospect of war, followed perhaps by religion, seems to be the political tool of choice, to the greatest effect. Of cowards.


    I felt like Abuskedti writing that.

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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    May I remind you, NC Fan, that Al Qaeda wasn't even in Iraq before Bush sent our troops there? So now that they are there, and we're "pant, pant...really kicking their asses over there, look? See?" I don't see how it's possible that you can even post that we're starting to "Win in Iraq".

    There is no "win" in an occupation, there is no "win" in an invasion.

    Period.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Bu2 wrote:
    May I remind you, NC Fan, that Al Qaeda wasn't even in Iraq before Bush sent our troops there? So now that they are there, and we're "pant, pant...really kicking their asses over there, look? See?" I don't see how it's possible that you can even post that we're starting to "Win in Iraq".

    There is no "win" in an occupation, there is no "win" in an invasion.

    Period.

    Al Qaeda isn't the concern, not in Iraq, or Afghanistan. Al Qaeda is only beneficial to this administration as long as there is an Al Qaeda. What name will they take next?

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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Congress!
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