The Reaming ...
josevolution
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how long will the american public take the reaming we are getting from our beloved government ,$ 4.00 gallon of gas ,food prices thru the roof ,housing market gone to shit,economy well enough said ,when is enough enough please discuss and good ol gubber bush just sitting there making more deals with the arab nations ......just had to rant folks it took 35$ to fill my tank this morning ....maybe i'm wrong
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josevolution wrote:it took 35$ to fill my tank this morning
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farfromglorified wrote:Do you drive a lawn tractor?
ha ha ha
lmao i wish but my matrix probably to fill it up would take 40$ ...shit i haven't filled it up in a long time though today 35$ got me a bit more than 3/4 full ... jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
dosen't it cost a hell of a lot more in other countries????
Do we deserve cheap gas?
I think we've got a problem with lack of refineries, obviously and they can't refine heavy crude and they aren't as efficient as they should be but neither is our nation.
Essentially, this is something that we have been working on for years but should have had a lot more attention paid to it. People just ignored it because it wasn't in thier faces. Now it's in the front consiousness so perhaps it will get more attention now.
One thing is clear... Ethanol was a dumb idea. It would have been smarter to explore for more oil in the US before anyone listened to ADM on that shit.
Biodiesel is a better idea anyway for small supply.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0 -
...josevolution wrote:how long will the american public take the reaming we are getting from our beloved government ,$ 4.00 gallon of gas ,food prices thru the roof ,housing market gone to shit,economy well enough said ,when is enough enough please discuss and good ol gubber bush just sitting there making more deals with the arab nations ......just had to rant folks it took 35$ to fill my tank this morning ....maybe i'm wrong
35 bucks? Try 75.
I suppose this is what we got for signing the 'Contract With America' with the conservative Republicans back in 2000. It stated that they would 'Bring back dignity to the White House' after 8 years of sex scandals and lead America into the new milenium as the economic example for others to follow.
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Can we sue for breach of contract?Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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oh and just to add the insult to injury, that expensive gas is 10% ethanol... meaning your MPG... is lessened. So it's still 75 bucks to fill the tank you get less miles out of it even if your car is perfectly maintained... and you get the triple dump when you drive to go buy food which costs more because of Ethanol...
Yay.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0 -
Pacomc79 wrote:dosen't it cost a hell of a lot more in other countries????
Do we deserve cheap gas?
I think we've got a problem with lack of refineries, obviously and they can't refine heavy crude and they aren't as efficient as they should be but neither is our nation.
Essentially, this is something that we have been working on for years but should have had a lot more attention paid to it. People just ignored it because it wasn't in thier faces. Now it's in the front consiousness so perhaps it will get more attention now.
One thing is clear... Ethanol was a dumb idea. It would have been smarter to explore for more oil in the US before anyone listened to ADM on that shit.
Biodiesel is a better idea anyway for small supply.
i agree we are in a bad state at the moment .....jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I agree with everyone on here. Now the question is, how do you fix it? Stop driving and buying food?0
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Gremmie95 wrote:Now the question is, how do you fix it?
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josevolution wrote:how long will the american public take the reaming we are getting from our beloved government ,$ 4.00 gallon of gas ,food prices thru the roof ,housing market gone to shit,economy well enough said ,when is enough enough please discuss and good ol gubber bush just sitting there making more deals with the arab nations ......just had to rant folks it took 35$ to fill my tank this morning ....maybe i'm wrong
$35 to fill the tank?
Oh man that's like 3 - 4 years ago prices for me...Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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We need to build refineries and drill for oil in Alaska. That'll help...I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.0
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_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:We need to build refineries and drill for oil in Alaska. That'll help...
what about Florida? It's a lot closer to the refineries in the Gulf. It costs a lot of money to ship that all the way down to the refineries.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0 -
_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:We need to build refineries and drill for oil in Alaska. That'll help...
Fuck up Alaska, great plan!THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!
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Sorry, I have to disagree here... I don't like those ideas... like, how about we build a refinery in your neighborhood? Or upwind from where your kids play little league baseball? I mean, I don't want a refinery near me... and i guessing you don't want one near you, right?_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:We need to build refineries and drill for oil in Alaska. That'll help...
As for Drilling for oil in Alaska. That reserve is labeled the Strategic Reserve for a reason. It was initially designated that during the Cold War because we needed fuel in case of a non-nuclear war with the Soviet Union. Now, there is no more Soviet Union... but do other nations pose a potetial threat to us? Russia? China?
I think they do pose a potential threat... not today... not tomorrow... but, 10 years from now? I do not trust Russia nor China. And I would rather have homegrown resources in our backyard in case we need to fire up our war machine, rather than having to secure resources in their neighborhood.
and I do not feel we should risk a future threat... just so we can continue our wasteful habit for about 4 years and the continue to hold the belief that cheap gas is somehow a birthright.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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stickfig13 wrote:How would it do that?
I'm an environmentalist. Building unneccesary oil refineries so you can support your addiction to oil seems like a bad plan to me.THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!
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Collin wrote:I'm an environmentalist. Building unneccesary oil refineries so you can support your addiction to oil seems like a bad plan to me.
define unnecessary. Currently the entire US society is built on oil. Everything. In the short term there is no alternative.... we should be further along than we are getting to clean energy, but right now... it's an oil based economy for the near future until some sustainable technology changes that.
no one is arguing this addiction is ridiculous and should have ended years ago, but currently the technology needed to end the addiction is not on the market or even close to it.
There hasn't been a new refinery for over 30 years. That's got to be an environmental issue right there. Surely there is better more efficient more environmentally friendly technology on the market currently and we aren't even talking about Coal Gassification yet.
And this is just the US... Look at China and India... that's a HUGE issue.
The sun and it's immediate derivitives (wind etc) are the only real alternatives as well as maybe an amalgamation of locally grown fuels I guess.... but wow do we have a lot of work to do.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0 -
Ethanol was such a stupid idea and I get a crack when super-ultra environmentalists rave about its future...maybe they should look at the draw-back of using farm land for "fuel" product instead of for food....so stupid....0
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_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:We need to build refineries and drill for oil in Alaska. That'll help...
Alaska will not quench America's need for oil...would be a drop in a large bucket....
Like I said last week get used to the prices the reliance upon oil is so huge now that you need to import oil/gas/etc. which automatically is going to increase the costs....North Americans (specifically America the most) have paid sub-value rates for their gasoline....finally it is catching up...makes me shake my head that so many people are shocked......0 -
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