why am I not surprised you feel this way. lets say by some miracle hilary wins the nom. would you vote for her? I didnt think so. guess what guy, many people on the obamamanic side feel the same way.
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No. You would be correct in assuming that i would not vote for hilary. There is no way in a frozen hell i would. Keep in mind, however that i say that not as an Obama supporter (though i am very much one), but as a citizen. If Obama had never been a candidate, i STILL would never vote for her. It has nothing to do with the bitter rivalry between the two. i also am not one of those who would cut off my nose to spite my face by voting for McCain as some, on both sides, are suggesting. A much more likely scenario would be me staying at home and watching a movie instead. If hilary manages to slime her way into the nomination, i will, most likely, not vote at all.
i also think its worthy of note that, though i'm definitely no republican, and i lean to the left, i have no party allegiances. Those card carrying democrats will more than likely vote for whichever candidate the party nominates. No democrat who oposes the war or is concerned with supreme court appointments will vote for McCain. i don't care what kind of shit their talking right now.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
No. You would be correct in assuming that i would not vote for hilary. There is no way in a frozen hell i would. Keep in mind, however that i say that not as an Obama supporter (though i am very much one), but as a citizen. If Obama had never been a candidate, i STILL would never vote for her. It has nothing to do with the bitter rivalry between the two. i also am not one of those who would cut off my nose to spite my face by voting for McCain as some, on both sides, are suggesting. A much more likely scenario would be me staying at home and watching a movie instead. If hilary manages to slime her way into the nomination, i will, most likely, not vote at all.
i also think its worthy of note that, though i'm definitely no republican, and i lean to the left, i have no party allegiances. Those card carrying democrats will more than likely vote for whichever candidate the party nominates. No democrat who oposes the war or is concerned with supreme court appointments will vote for McCain. i don't care what kind of shit their talking right now.
it just seems that many card carrying dems feel as passionate as you do about their candidate. I'd wouldnt be surprised if the many didnt vote. and in a race this tight, not voting hurts.
it just seems that many card carrying dems feel as passionate as you do about their candidate. I'd wouldnt be surprised if the many didnt vote. and in a race this tight, not voting hurts.
Its a scare tactic. "Nominate my candidate or i'll vote for McCain, damn it."
i call bullshit. Nader may benefit slightly from the current party division. McCain won't. He'll still beat clinton very easily, but it won't be because of a large number of democrat defectors. Independant voters are another story. Hilary will not get any. They will go overwhelmingly for McCain in a matchup with clinton.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Its a scare tactic. "Nominate my candidate or i'll vote for McCain, damn it."
i call bullshit. Nader may benefit slightly from the current party division. McCain won't. He'll still beat clinton very easily, but it won't be because of a large number of democrat defectors. Independant voters are another story. Hilary will not get any. They will go overwhelmingly for McCain in a matchup with clinton.
well the race is still close between obama/mccain. I think with all the BS going on with the democratic party, many independents may go to the right. thats why the play the game!
The Democratic party is definitely in trouble. Hillary and Obama are basically doing McCain's job for him without him having to spend a single penny. While the two of them duke it out and sling mud at each other more and more independents will slip through their fingers. They may not go McCain's way but more likely to a third party candidate.
The problem as I see it is that the Republicans have always been better organized. While McCain may not have the best support within his own party none of them will cross the aisle and vote for Hillary or Obama nor will they chance it by voting third party. They will stick to McCain because to them he is the lesser of three evils, at this point.
Just like in 2004 the Democrats will squander away what could have been an easy victory.
The only hope I can carry away from this election year is that enough people get sick and tired of the typical shit we are handed by the Dems and Reps and look elsewhere for a candidate to represent them. While a third party candidate will have no chance of winning the White House if enough people do vote third party it will hopefully send a message to Washington that the two party monopoly may be coming to and end. That they can no longer sit upon their thrown without fear of loosing their grasp on power.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
The Democratic party is definitely in trouble. Hillary and Obama are basically doing McCain's job for him without him having to spend a single penny. While the two of them duke it out and sling mud at each other more and more independents will slip through their fingers. They may not go McCain's way but more likely to a third party candidate.
The problem as I see it is that the Republicans have always been better organized. While McCain may not have the best support within his own party none of them will cross the aisle and vote for Hillary or Obama nor will they chance it by voting third party. They will stick to McCain because to them he is the lesser of three evils, at this point.
Just like in 2004 the Democrats will squander away what could have been an easy victory.
The only hope I can carry away from this election year is that enough people get sick and tired of the typical shit we are handed by the Dems and Reps and look elsewhere for a candidate to represent them. While a third party candidate will have no chance of winning the White House if enough people do vote third party it will hopefully send a message to Washington that the two party monopoly may be coming to and end. That they can no longer sit upon their thrown without fear of loosing their grasp on power.
That is what I'm thinking, too.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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A friend of mine really likes Mike Gravel. It really is kind of too bad that he didn't do better.
Isn't he going to continue on as an "Independent", or something like that?
i also think its worthy of note that, though i'm definitely no republican, and i lean to the left, i have no party allegiances. Those card carrying democrats will more than likely vote for whichever candidate the party nominates. No democrat who oposes the war or is concerned with supreme court appointments will vote for McCain. i don't care what kind of shit their talking right now.
he is now running as the libertarian candidate
it just seems that many card carrying dems feel as passionate as you do about their candidate. I'd wouldnt be surprised if the many didnt vote. and in a race this tight, not voting hurts.
Its a scare tactic. "Nominate my candidate or i'll vote for McCain, damn it."
i call bullshit. Nader may benefit slightly from the current party division. McCain won't. He'll still beat clinton very easily, but it won't be because of a large number of democrat defectors. Independant voters are another story. Hilary will not get any. They will go overwhelmingly for McCain in a matchup with clinton.
well the race is still close between obama/mccain. I think with all the BS going on with the democratic party, many independents may go to the right. thats why the play the game!
The problem as I see it is that the Republicans have always been better organized. While McCain may not have the best support within his own party none of them will cross the aisle and vote for Hillary or Obama nor will they chance it by voting third party. They will stick to McCain because to them he is the lesser of three evils, at this point.
Just like in 2004 the Democrats will squander away what could have been an easy victory.
The only hope I can carry away from this election year is that enough people get sick and tired of the typical shit we are handed by the Dems and Reps and look elsewhere for a candidate to represent them. While a third party candidate will have no chance of winning the White House if enough people do vote third party it will hopefully send a message to Washington that the two party monopoly may be coming to and end. That they can no longer sit upon their thrown without fear of loosing their grasp on power.
exactly
That is what I'm thinking, too.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde