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Robert Kennedy assasination

lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
was Sirhan Sirhan a Manchurian Candidate? very interesting and scary shit.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Very likely, I'd guess. And he might not even have fired the fatal shot. Forensic studies of audio footage of the shooting picked up lots of shots, and one firearm heard matched that of one of RFK's security guards. If any assassination looked like a conspiracy or team job with a patsy, it was that of RFK.
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/feb/22/kennedy.assassination
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    was Sirhan Sirhan a Manchurian Candidate? very interesting and scary shit.

    manchurian? no man he was palestinian. ;):p:D
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    You guys and your fucking conspiracies. ;)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    was Sirhan Sirhan a Manchurian Candidate? very interesting and scary shit.

    What have you got on this? I saw a documentary a few years ago on the subject. It pointed towards Sirhan having been hypnotized. It was very convincing. There's definitely more to it than what we've been told. And this isn't just 'conspiracy nut' stuff.
    There's a book or two on the subject that I've been planning to check out. Just haven't gotten around to it.
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    he's dead.

    all these years.
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What have you got on this? I saw a documentary a few years ago on the subject. It pointed towards Sirhan having been hypnotized. It was very convincing. There's definitely more to it than what we've been told. And this isn't just 'conspiracy nut' stuff.
    There's a book or two on the subject that I've been planning to check out. Just haven't gotten around to it.

    I was watching this.

    http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/3313/Overview

    while I think the american government has evolved into something more transparent, I do think this could have been done in the sixties. this was before a world of instant communication. I need to research more about this sirhan fella.
  • GauchoBGauchoB Posts: 224
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    was Sirhan Sirhan a Manchurian Candidate? very interesting and scary shit.
    No that would be Barak Obama
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae7H0aWFWNY

    Watch from beginning to end. This will show what was lost.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    ask Drifting...
    now there's a name i have not heard in a long time....
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    GauchoB wrote:
    No that would be Barak Obama

    Any credibility you might have gained in political discussions has been dashed because you proved you just have a personal dislike for Senator Obama.
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  • GauchoBGauchoB Posts: 224
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Any credibility you might have gained in political discussions has been dashed because you proved you just have a personal dislike for Senator Obama.


    Who cares what you think? I dont like Obama. At least my Signature doesn't emblazen my skewed political views.
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    This thread is so 1968!!!! ;):p
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    was Sirhan Sirhan a Manchurian Candidate? very interesting and scary shit.

    I find it a little puzzling how Sirhan Sirhan knew RFK was going to walk through the kitchen? RFK himself didn't even know he was going through there. At the end of the speech, after he says "my thanks to all of you and now it's onto Chicago and let's win there" he starts to go in another direction, but then someone decided they would turn around and go through the kitchen. Just seems odd to me that Sirhan Sirhan would wait for him there, and not outside the hotel....
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Eddie Better wrote:
    I find it a little puzzling how Sirhan Sirhan knew RFK was going to walk through the kitchen? RFK himself didn't even know he was going through there. At the end of the speech, after he says "my thanks to all of you and now it's onto Chicago and let's win there" he starts to go in another direction, but then someone decided they would turn around and go through the kitchen. Just seems odd to me that Sirhan Sirhan would wait for him there, and not outside the hotel....

    youve never misstepped in your life? never taken off or turned on your left foot when you meant to step forward on your right?
    i highly doubt RFK even knew is which direction the kitchen was. so naturally he'd have needed a little guiding.
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    catefrances wrote:
    youve never misstepped in your life? never taken off or turned on your left foot when you meant to step forward on your right?
    i highly doubt RFK even knew is which direction the kitchen was. so naturally he'd have needed a little guiding.

    yeah, maybe.....
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Eddie Better wrote:
    yeah, maybe.....

    pfft. :rolleyes: what kind of answer is that? :D:p

    i have to say, i am fan of RFK and think that with his death america lost a great man and along with him a huge chance.
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    catefrances wrote:
    pfft. :rolleyes: what kind of answer is that? :D:p

    i have to say, i am fan of RFK and think that with his death america lost a great man and along with him a huge chance.

    well I think you missed my main point. How did Sirhan Sirhan know RFK was going to go into the kitchen?

    I agree with your thoughts on RFK.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Eddie Better wrote:
    well I think you missed my main point. How did Sirhan Sirhan know RFK was going to go into the kitchen?

    I agree with your thoughts on RFK.



    no no i generally don't miss points. main or otherwise. :p

    perhaps everyone knew? can't imagine it was some big state secret. you know how people love to talk. ;):)
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    catefrances wrote:
    no no i generally don't miss points. main or otherwise. :p

    perhaps everyone knew? can't imagine it was some big state secret. you know how people love to talk. ;):)

    yeah, maybe....

    lol :p
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Eddie Better wrote:
    yeah, maybe....

    lol :p

    btw you seen the emilio estevez film, bobby? if not you should. tis good.
    and whilst a fictionalisation is still worth a look. though tis less about bobby kennedy than it is about people at the ambassador on the day.

    btw i found this, you might be interested. ;):)


    http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~dlewis/crime.htm
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    catefrances wrote:
    btw you seen the emilio estevez film, bobby? if not you should. tis good.
    and whilst a fictionalisation is still worth a look. though tis less about bobby kennedy than it is about people at the ambassador on the day.

    btw i found this, you might be interested. ;):)


    http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~dlewis/crime.htm

    Yeah I own the movie Bobby. I bought it when it came out. It was ok. Was hoping it would have more to do with Bobby though......

    That was interesting. So it was a pre-arranged route. Ok, but what about this:

    http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~dlewis/compl.htm

    ;)
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Eddie Better wrote:
    Yeah I own the movie Bobby. I bought it when it came out. It was ok. Was hoping it would have more to do with Bobby though......

    That was interesting. So it was a pre-arranged route. Ok, but what about this:

    http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~dlewis/compl.htm

    ;)

    eyewitness reports are notoriously inconclusive, not to mention suspect due to trauma. thats why irrefutable physical evidence is so important.
    can you imagine being in that kitchen when kennedy was shot? talk about pandemonium and disbelief. you hear a gunshot, instinctually you duck and cover,no?
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    catefrances wrote:
    eyewitness reports are notoriously inconclusive, not to mention suspect due to trauma. thats why irrefutable physical evidence is so important.
    can you imagine being in that kitchen when kennedy was shot? talk about pandemonium and disbelief. you hear a gunshot, instinctually you duck and cover,no?

    true. but how do you explain the fact that sirhan sirhan was infront of him the whole time, yet the fatal shot was fired from behind?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Eddie Better wrote:
    true. but how do you explain the fact that sirhan sirhan was infront of him the whole time, yet the fatal shot was fired from behind?

    i can't. i wasn't there. someone is covering someone's arse. i know that. i am of the opinion that kennedy was shot by nefarious means by someone inside the US, if you know what i mean. he was a dangerous man to have in the white house. he'd proven that during his brother's term. to have robert kennedy not only in the white house, but in charge of the joint, would have made a whole lot of people mighty uncomfortable
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    catefrances wrote:
    i can't. i wasn't there. someone is covering someone's arse. i know that. i am of the opinion that kennedy was shot by nefarious means by someone inside the US, if you know what i mean. he was a dangerous man to have in the white house. he'd proven that during his brother's term. to have robert kennedy not only in the white house, but in charge of the joint, would have made a whole lot of people mighty uncomfortable

    yeah but did you know that at the time he was killed, he was significantly behind Hubert Humphrey in delegates? He might not have even secured the nomination. So why kill him?

    It would have been very interesting if he had lived and gotten the nomination and gone up against Richard Nixon. Can you imagine if Dick lost again, to another Kennedy!? :D
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Eddie Better wrote:
    yeah but did you know that at the time he was killed, he was significantly behind Hubert Humphrey in delegates? He might not have even secured the nomination. So why kill him?

    It would have been very interesting if he had lived and gotten the nomination and gone up against Richard Nixon. Can you imagine if Dick lost again, to another Kennedy!? :D

    yeah yeah, you are aware of the shenanigans it took to get JFK into the white house, right? joe kennedy would have stopped at nothing to get another of his boys that presidency. and this one was better than the last one, imo.
    anyhoo it would have been brilliant if nixon lost to a kennedy ...again. :D:D
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