The Prophecies of the Mayan Calendar

angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
I've watched these videos a few times and each time find them fascinating. They look at how a calendar is the dead center of a civilization. Our mass-accepted calendar directs our awareness in a specific direction. Everything in a civilization revolves around its calendar: due dates, bill dates, when we go to work, when we graduate, etc. "how many widgets can you produce by Wednesday?"...even our very intrinsic value is gauged by the calendar.

Our calendar is an insidious tool by it's focus on physical evidence, only. "The absolute dead centre of our civilization is focused on only physical evidence...the measurement of physical objects moving through space". This type of focus has resulted in the erosion of our sense of the sacred, to being about "stuff". This erosion of our awareness beyond the physical continues to go downhill. We see this with the holiday, Christmas, where it's become predominantly about "stuff" and what is given or received, rather than about meaning.

Our calendar has become the one and only calendar of commerce. All computers are programmed to it. And we "dogmatically" unquestioningly, and "faith"-fully follow along with the idea of what day it is.

These videos discuss the Mayan calendar perspective, and the prophetic view of reality. And how we are evolving, and where we can further expect to see evolution move through upcoming challenging times.

For example, we are moving from an era of overt shows of power, etc, into where ethics begins to be our prominant evolutionary focus. These videos also deal with "the quickening" we are facing, wherein massive change is happening so quickly many can barely keep up. And how some won't--what will fall away? What do we want to divorce ourselves of in order to adapt to this mass change? To have a overview, such as provided in these videos, is very helpful. In all, the changes we can expect, while vast and sweeping are evolutionary and about progress and increasing growth and betterment.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232

I was originally introduced to these videos on this board a few years back. I don't remember who posted them, but I am grateful to you, whomever you are! :)
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
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  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    Interesting perspective, angelica. I haven't watched these videos yet, but I plan on it. Just reading through your post made me realize how dependent I am on my day planner and Outlook during my work week. I would be lost without either of these two things. Insidious, indeed!!!! ;)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • Thanks for posting this video, I have had an interest in the Mayan calanderfor afew years now and this guy does a real good job of ilustrating how the calendar works.


    Hey Angelica what is your take on where we are at now in the calendar and what do you think of what is supposedly going to happen. The guy kind of lost me there at the end by going into all this ExtraTerrestial talk at about this time(2007). and do you see the corporate downfall that should be going on at this moment.
  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    I posted a big thread a while back on the mayan calendar. I still follow the calendar daily to see what each day's "flow" is. Today is the mayan day of "6-etznab" 6 being a calming, steady, stabilizing tone and etznab meaning flint, or knife and being a good day to cut away illusions and find peace of mind. Ian did a great job on those videos. I haven't watched them for a long time, but that was the beginning of my "path". Transformation and evolution of consciousness... It's evolution baby!!! Peace

    edit: here is a link to the original thread: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=214357
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    what is your take on where we are at now in the calendar and what do you think of what is supposedly going to happen.

    We are just coming close to the end of the 5th day period in the galactic cycle and entering into the 5th night period towards the end of Nov. Things are happing faster and on a smaller scale than the previous periods (each day and night section lasting 360 days now). What will happen? Anyone's guess. I sort of think that the CERN superconductor project may change the way we look at the universe. That is supposed to go live at the end on November. The key is maintaining a centeredness in the face of whatever presents itself to you! Peace!
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Thanks for posting this video, I have had an interest in the Mayan calanderfor afew years now and this guy does a real good job of ilustrating how the calendar works.


    Hey Angelica what is your take on where we are at now in the calendar and what do you think of what is supposedly going to happen. The guy kind of lost me there at the end by going into all this ExtraTerrestial talk at about this time(2007). and do you see the corporate downfall that should be going on at this moment.
    I do have my own understandings and visions that have been going on for years and it seems to be aligned with many of these wisdom traditions (and is inextricably inter-connected with them, as my own potential has been honed by them, too). And I do agree with any of these prophecies that see big changes and that recognize the massive imbalance we perptuate by being out of touch with natural universal principles.

    I don't as much see "downfalls" as I see segues and changes. It's the same as always: businesses and individuals must stay awake, aware and adapt to what they face. For example, in business, it's those that are aligned with natural life principles of meeting human need through service, progress, evolution, etc. that will make it. And as we progress, the bar is being pushed at all times, so we must practice higher and higher degrees of ethics, and so on in order to be cutting edge and competitive. Those that are not able to align with these principles, and who maladapt in other ways create their own "drag" that causes them to go against the grain and "fallout" and many different ways. In sometimes big or sometimes small ways. These are the learning experiences any business faces. As he talks about in the videos, things are stacked in favour of the universe. In my view, the "negativity" is ALWAYS for a higher purpose of growth. So any fallout we have will be about big and dramatic lessons we must learn as humanity. And it will help us grow to greater levels of awareness. There will always be continuity, and the harshness will continue to be balanced with excitement, growth, personal progress, achievement, etc.

    This is very true personally, as well. The minute we step out of alignment with human service, progress and evolution--the minute we dig in our heels, and fight and separate, we create this fallout to learn from. Humans are so egotistical, and willful, and out of touch with these natural principles. We get kicked in the butt all the time by life. And we willfully ignore it and blame others, and consider our experiences "random". We grow begrudgingly and without our conscious awareness, while our egos state how much we deserve. We must learn to align with these natural growth stages, and the lessons we're being provided. If not, we are keeping ourselves out of touch with the life principles that are evolving us. By doing so, we keep ourselves separate from awareness, knowledge, and especially our own dreams and inherent birthright personal potential. We're at a level of evolution where the challenges are deepening in order to open us up so that we can exorcize our demons. And we're fighting that, sticking with ego and blaming the "other" guy. In the end, we'll continue to undermine ourselves until we resolve that internal struggle between our ego and our Spirit, and align with the BIG picture of Life. That's what it's all about. It's the stereotypical age-old struggle we all continue with.

    My main personal concern is for those who due to dysfunctional life pain are evolutionarily out of step. I care because I've been there--the pain is great. Things in life are challenging and the momentum is picking up and I believe will continue to accelerate greatly. When people resist nature and change and maladapt rather than adapt, they create so much pain and fallout for themselves. And like with money: the emotionally poor get emotionally poorer, while the emotionally rich get emotionally richer. I see people falling out big-time, and it's much worse yet, when they have children, and by passing on the same maladaptive patterns are perpetuating the cycles for new generations. I've known many people to fall out with death, suicide and ongoing personal blindness. I've been blessed to be able to resolve my key life paralysis and resistance and it's my purpose to make a difference with empowerment and awareness for others through these transitions.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    binger wrote:
    I posted a big thread a while back on the mayan calendar. I still follow the calendar daily to see what each day's "flow" is. Today is the mayan day of "6-etznab" 6 being a calming, steady, stabilizing tone and etznab meaning flint, or knife and being a good day to cut away illusions and find peace of mind. Ian did a great job on those videos. I haven't watched them for a long time, but that was the beginning of my "path". Transformation and evolution of consciousness... It's evolution baby!!! Peace

    edit: here is a link to the original thread: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=214357
    I do remember your thread. I was paying close attention to it, as I'm very curious about all of these spiritual prophecies that seem to say similar things. :) You are far more aware of the Mayan stuff than I am, for sure. My thing is in spotting generalities in spiritual or universal principles. If memory serves me, I'd seen the two videos listed here prior to reading your thread.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • I'm about half way into the first one. If starts off slow, but some really fascinating concepts are presented, not to mention a really interesting look into the Mayan culture.

    Dogma...who knew I would be applying that word to the very concept of time itself.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    I'm about half way into the first one. If starts off slow, but some really fascinating concepts are presented, not to mention a really interesting look into the Mayan culture.

    Dogma...who knew I would be applying that word to the very concept of time itself.
    I think it needs to be "slow" in order for these fascinating concepts to be presented in a way that truly effectively introduces them, and further builds upon them . In all, it's a very, very encompassing overview, imo. It's taken me a few full views, over the past two years, in order for me to be able to really accept some of these concepts, and to have an overview begin to truly gel in my own awareness.

    I was surprised with the dogma thing, and how applicable it truly is. We're all "sheep", when it comes right down to it. We're all part of the tribal mindset, at our core, whether we acknowledge it or not. In the chakra system, one of the chakras deals with integrating this fact, and being fully aware of it, and keeping this level of our being cleansed and clarified, in order to be at full effectiveness.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • what I find interesting is that we are at the end of the calendar. And my question is what happens then? does it revert back? im not quite clear on that.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    what I find interesting is that we are at the end of the calendar. And my question is what happens then? does it revert back? im not quite clear on that.
    My understanding is that we evolve as a majority to a state of conscious awareness of timelessness. We become centered in eternity...otherwise known as having a synthesized awareness rather than our current focus on linearity and cause/effect. This means we live in the moment awake to the fact of our co-creation of absolutely everything that happens.

    There is currently a fringe worldview that already perceives in such a way. The book "the Power of Now" epitomizes the fallacy of living in "time", and away from our consciousness of the fact that we co-create reality at all times. Other prolific authors/mystic/speakers, such as Alan Watts, among many others, represent such a view.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • angelica wrote:
    I think it needs to be "slow" in order for these fascinating concepts to be presented in a way that truly effectively introduces them, and further builds upon them . In all, it's a very, very encompassing overview, imo. It's taken me a few full views, over the past two years, in order for me to be able to really accept some of these concepts, and to have an overview begin to truly gel in my own awareness.

    I was surprised with the dogma thing, and how applicable it truly is. We're all "sheep", when it comes right down to it. We're all part of the tribal mindset, at our core, whether we acknowledge it or not. In the chakra system, one of the chakras deals with integrating this fact, and being fully aware of it, and keeping this level of our being cleansed and clarified, in order to be at full effectiveness.


    It definitely builds in momentum, and speed of delivery. It's starting to freak me out the more I watch it though because of the 2012 predictions.

    How interesting it must have been to live in that society.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    It definitely builds in momentum, and speed of delivery. It's starting to freak me out the more I watch it though because of the 2012 predictions.

    How interesting it must have been to live in that society.
    With your kind of open, naturally holistically-oriented perception, you'd have completely thrived in that kind of society.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    what I find interesting is that we are at the end of the calendar. And my question is what happens then? does it revert back? im not quite clear on that.
    A circle has no ending or beginning. A new start as we move into the next cycle. Astronomically speaking, the center of our solar system aligns crosses the mid-plane of the galaxy. As it has done in the past. Anyone's guess to what will happen. The mayan's had a fire ceremony ever 52 solar years. All the fires were extinguished in the village. All debts were erased and a new fire was rekindled at the temple that was used to relight all the new fires. A starting over. Cool concept I think.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    binger wrote:
    A circle has no ending or beginning.
    Very nice. :)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    thats kind of false...a circle does have a beginning... just ask the person who drew it.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    anyone who disagrees that the sun and the earth and the planets are a miracle in how they can accurately keep the concept of time...which is genious in itself.... and also that the stars and the sun and moon can't tell what direction we are going when we are lost... well i dont understand that thinking.
  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    macgyver06 wrote:
    thats kind of false...a circle does have a beginning... just ask the person who drew it.

    Smartass :-) When the circle is complete, it has no beginning or ending. If it is incomplete, it has a beginning and end and is called an arc. Peace.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • learned word of the day: entrainment

    I am really enjoying this video lecture Angelica

    Thanks for posting.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    angelica wrote:
    I've watched these videos a few times and each time find them fascinating. They look at how a calendar is the dead center of a civilization. Our mass-accepted calendar directs our awareness in a specific direction. Everything in a civilization revolves around its calendar: due dates, bill dates, when we go to work, when we graduate, etc. "how many widgets can you produce by Wednesday?"...even our very intrinsic value is gauged by the calendar.

    Our calendar is an insidious tool by it's focus on physical evidence, only. "The absolute dead centre of our civilization is focused on only physical evidence...the measurement of physical objects moving through space". This type of focus has resulted in the erosion of our sense of the sacred, to being about "stuff". This erosion of our awareness beyond the physical continues to go downhill. We see this with the holiday, Christmas, where it's become predominantly about "stuff" and what is given or received, rather than about meaning.

    Our calendar has become the one and only calendar of commerce. All computers are programmed to it. And we "dogmatically" unquestioningly, and "faith"-fully follow along with the idea of what day it is.

    These videos discuss the Mayan calendar perspective, and the prophetic view of reality. And how we are evolving, and where we can further expect to see evolution move through upcoming challenging times.

    For example, we are moving from an era of overt shows of power, etc, into where ethics begins to be our prominant evolutionary focus. These videos also deal with "the quickening" we are facing, wherein massive change is happening so quickly many can barely keep up. And how some won't--what will fall away? What do we want to divorce ourselves of in order to adapt to this mass change? To have a overview, such as provided in these videos, is very helpful. In all, the changes we can expect, while vast and sweeping are evolutionary and about progress and increasing growth and betterment.



    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232

    I was originally introduced to these videos on this board a few years back. I don't remember who posted them, but I am grateful to you, whomever you are! :)


    anyone can sit secretly outside a window watching a family eat dinner wondering why they all reach for the turkey and the stuffing. The family if questioned could probably imagine whats its like to be the turkey thats being eaten...and i bet they come up with the same feelings as the person is feeling who is outside the window watching in secretly.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    binger wrote:
    Smartass :-) When the circle is complete, it has no beginning or ending. If it is incomplete, it has a beginning and end and is called an arc. Peace.

    im not being a smartass... if you dont believe a circle has a beginning, youre rejecting reality. Just because you cant see it and have no evidence or clues to where it may be..doesnt mean someone else doesnt.

    also..that being said...where did this concept of the circle come from... and whats the idea behind it
  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    macgyver06 wrote:
    im not being a smartass... if you dont believe a circle has a beginning, youre rejecting reality. Just because you cant see it and have no evidence or clues to where it may be..doesnt mean someone else doesnt.

    also..that being said...where did this concept of the circle come from... and whats the idea behind it

    Smartass comment was a joke of course. I'm not rejecting reality, but tell me all about the beginning of circles... I would like enlightenment on this.

    When did they start?
    What do they truely represent?
    What did the first circle look like?

    I always thought the circle started in the center with a point and grew from there. Literally, I get where you are coming from, but c'mon. Expand your philosophy a bit. Every thread seems to degrade into an argument that had nothing to to with the topic. This thread should not degrade into a debate over the validity of circles. Start a new one on circles. Peace my friend. (all in good humor)
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    binger wrote:
    Smartass comment was a joke of course. I'm not rejecting reality, but tell me all about the beginning of circles... I would like enlightenment on this.

    When did they start?
    What do they truely represent?
    What did the first circle look like?

    I always thought the circle started in the center with a point and grew from there. Literally, I get where you are coming from, but c'mon. Expand your philosophy a bit. Every thread seems to degrade into an argument that had nothing to to with the topic. This thread should not degrade into a debate over the validity of circles. Start a new one on circles. Peace my friend. (all in good humor)

    that first question you just answered on your own....

    the other 2 are for your own enjoyment.

    whammy
  • Q: What is the discrepancy between the rich and the poor? A: How much energy they each have available. Without enough energy available to everyone you (the rich) can manufacture a lack of anything"

    I like the way this guy talks.


    Some of his present day predictions are a bit off though. Is +/- a few years a big deal?

    not sure... it does get a little out there at the very end with the question and answer period. Prior to that....quite awesome.

    http://www.mayanmajix.com/lab_9underworlds.jpg
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Hahaha

    The calender was created for agricultural reasons. To support our growth of stuffs. It's the other way around. The calender doesn't cause our materialism, we do, it's the nature of nature.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Hahaha

    The calender was created for agricultural reasons. To support our growth of stuffs. It's the other way around. The calender doesn't cause our materialism, we do, it's the nature of nature.

    Straight up though that pyramid time period thing was freaky as hell.

    this thing
    http://www.mayanmajix.com/lab_9underworlds.jpg
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Straight up though that pyramid time period thing was freaky as hell.

    this thing
    http://www.mayanmajix.com/lab_9underworlds.jpg

    All civilizations have had theories like this. It's our power as humans to determine cause and effect which leads us to question and theorize about the origins of all things (a.k.a the causes).
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    All civilizations have had theories like this. It's our power as humans to determine cause and effect which leads us to question and theorize about the origins of all things (a.k.a the causes).

    It does seem to coincide with all the major developments in mankind.

    It's about 3 hours to watch, but it's not what you expect really. A lot of it is real world modern day relation.

    There is a lot of sense to what he is saying, regardless of the calendar. I found it quite thought provoking in the deterministic universe sense.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Hahaha

    The calender was created for agricultural reasons. To support our growth of stuffs. It's the other way around. The calender doesn't cause our materialism, we do, it's the nature of nature.

    One calendar was agricultural - The Haab-365 days. Another was prophetic - the Tun - 360 days Another astrological-The Tzolkin-260 days. The mayans had one of the most accurate time keeping systems of any recordable civilization known to date. Many experts agree on this. If they were so accurate with one, then it is conceivably possible they were accurate with the other. I follow the Tzolkin daily and have for a few years now. It is pretty accurate to me personally. Admittedly, that may be my own self-determinism. I could be completely wrong. But it's fun.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    It does seem to coincide with all the major developments in mankind.

    It's about 3 hours to watch, but it's not what you expect really. A lot of it is real world modern day relation.

    There is a lot of sense to what he is saying, regardless of the calendar. I found it quite thought provoking in the deterministic universe sense.

    I don't agree with the first 5 minutes. Especially the definition of consciousness and calendar
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I don't agree with the first 5 minutes. Especially the definition of consciousness and calendar

    And Thus Began The Ahnimus Calendar for the Circle of Disagreement For Posts on End on the Subject of His Divine Disagreements With Anything He Sure Don't Agree With and So It IS For It is So
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