Anyone else think that disney girl getting fired sends mixed messages?

Derrick
Derrick Posts: 475
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
Now, I'm well aware my brain is a little bit more accepting of nakedness than the average person, or the average parent for that matter, but I can't help but think Disney's swift action against that girl sends a poor message to children, particularly girls.

I'll be the first to admit I've not even seen the picture, so if it is overtly sexual or pornographic, I understand their action...but from what I've heard it's simply a nude photo. Why is our society so against nudity? If she'd been pictured shooting a gun would it have been worse? Are girls supposed to be so ashamed of their bodies that they cannot show them once they reach adulthood? Is this Taliban Afghanistan? I know that last question was loaded but seriously, why draw the line in the sand at nipples and pubic hair?

Ok, it's the weekend, back to drinking...

PS. don't feel free to post a link to the pic for my benefit, I'll probably see it sooner or later.
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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    I just can't believe people are stupid enough to take those type of pictures....they always end up surfacing. I really don't know can't say if she should get fired or not. But it's the Disney channel so it is kind of weird.
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  • AdmiralPepper
    AdmiralPepper Posts: 48
    Well, I wasn't sure what you were talking about, but I found a story about it on the net. Apparently it's a girl from the High School Musical thing, and she didn't get fired. It doesn't surprise me she wasn't fired, this High School Musical thing is a monster, I've never seen it, but everywhere I look there is a story on the news, a commercial, or some type of merchandise for it right in my face. And according to the story they are trying to get her, as well as the rest of the cast to sign up for a third of these High School Musical things. While she didn't get fired, I'm sure if it had been a girl tied to a Disney venture that wasn't as successful, she probably would have been fired before she could have gotten her clothes back on from the photo shoot.
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    Derrick wrote:
    Now, I'm well aware my brain is a little bit more accepting of nakedness than the average person, or the average parent for that matter, but I can't help but think Disney's swift action against that girl sends a poor message to children, particularly girls.

    I'll be the first to admit I've not even seen the picture, so if it is overtly sexual or pornographic, I understand their action...but from what I've heard it's simply a nude photo. Why is our society so against nudity? If she'd been pictured shooting a gun would it have been worse? Are girls supposed to be so ashamed of their bodies that they cannot show them once they reach adulthood? Is this Taliban Afghanistan? I know that last question was loaded but seriously, why draw the line in the sand at nipples and pubic hair?

    Ok, it's the weekend, back to drinking...

    PS. don't feel free to post a link to the pic for my benefit, I'll probably see it sooner or later.

    I'd say no biggie, it's a private company with an image that caters to children, not the government. As much as they are doing it to protect their image to what they feel their base consumer is, those that disagree can also choose not to buy disney stuff.

    guess they want to bow out quickly on this kind of stuff so if she ends up another Britney, they can be disassociated from it, lol

    with all the sex and violence on tv, it's kind of rediculous when these companies get up in arms over a simple nude photo
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    beachdweller wrote:

    with all the sex and violence on tv, it's kind of rediculous when these companies get up in arms over a simple nude photo

    That's the whole point of the High School Musical I guess...parents don't have to worry about all the sex and violence. Do we want a bunch our children to grow up to be like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, who can't keep their clothes on at all? What's wrong with holding people to a high standard? She makes the big dollars because of her pre-teen fans, but I guess she is 18 now, so it is time for her to battle with Britney and Paris.
  • Binaural
    Binaural Posts: 1,046
    An 18 yearold sent a nudie pic to her boyfriend, big deal. I could understand if it was a pic like her fisting someone in a Mickey outfit but she didn't do anything wrong.
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  • Indian Summer
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070908/en_nm/hudgens_nude_dc;_ylt=Ao7VRr2yodjOeqQSh52UBIZBr7sF


    Disney is backing her.
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  • Derrick
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    Ah, well if Disney is now backing her, then a lot of media outlets got their initial report wrong.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I think they would have had every right to fire her if they wanted to.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Indian Summer wrote:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070908/en_nm/hudgens_nude_dc;_ylt=Ao7VRr2yodjOeqQSh52UBIZBr7sF


    Disney is backing her.

    holy shit... so where do i find the picture?
  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    it's all about image and marketing. When a program caters to the 5-15 age bracket, you can't have your stars going around in their birthday best. That's the sort of stuff Ma and Pa in Iowa tend to get all boycott-y over.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Disney is one of the top media corporations in the world. They don't care what messages they send to children. They care about how many people they can sell to advertisers.
  • NoCode_inMT
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    Binaural wrote:
    a pic like her fisting someone in a Mickey outfit

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    godpt3 wrote:
    it's all about image and marketing. When a program caters to the 5-15 age bracket, you can't have your stars going around in their birthday best. That's the sort of stuff Ma and Pa in Iowa tend to get all boycott-y over.

    well then maybe they should be more concerned that Donald Duck never wears pants
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  • bootlegger10
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    godpt3 wrote:
    it's all about image and marketing. When a program caters to the 5-15 age bracket, you can't have your stars going around in their birthday best. That's the sort of stuff Ma and Pa in Iowa tend to get all boycott-y over.

    Yeah, imagine those crazy Iowa folks not wanting their daughters to grow up to be whores.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Yeah, imagine those crazy Iowa folks not wanting their daughters to grow up to be whores.


    Was this one of their daughters?
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  • TrixieCat
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    Derrick wrote:
    Now, I'm well aware my brain is a little bit more accepting of nakedness than the average person, or the average parent for that matter, but I can't help but think Disney's swift action against that girl sends a poor message to children, particularly girls.

    I'll be the first to admit I've not even seen the picture, so if it is overtly sexual or pornographic, I understand their action...but from what I've heard it's simply a nude photo. Why is our society so against nudity? If she'd been pictured shooting a gun would it have been worse? Are girls supposed to be so ashamed of their bodies that they cannot show them once they reach adulthood? Is this Taliban Afghanistan? I know that last question was loaded but seriously, why draw the line in the sand at nipples and pubic hair?

    Ok, it's the weekend, back to drinking...

    PS. don't feel free to post a link to the pic for my benefit, I'll probably see it sooner or later.
    If she had been fired, what is the mixed message?
    It has nothing to do with being ashamed of the human body.
    A mixed message would be if they were churning out mild porn or r-rated movies yet firing her for the leak of this picture.
    Personally, it doesn't bother me a bit. Nor am I offended. I have seen the picture. She is just standing there naked in what looks like her bedroom.
    What is appalling is the media so concerned with celebrity that they have to show zoomed in pictures of her bikini clad bum on the beach. That is not cool. Leave the poor girl alone to enjoy some time with her boy on the beach.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Was this one of their daughters?

    No, but it is probably someone that their daughters idolized and want to be like.
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    fuck disney, whats the picture like?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Yeah, imagine those crazy Iowa folks not wanting their daughters to grow up to be whores.

    maybe if sex wasn't a bad word and seen as something normal and to be discussed openly rather than shameful and to be hidden, their daughters wouldn't go nuts and turn whore the second they get a taste of freedom. coming from a conservative state, i've seen it happen the second they hit college.

    i also like how you mention their daughters... not a word on their sons. it's only the women we have to worry about fucking too much!
  • Binaural
    Binaural Posts: 1,046
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Yeah, imagine those crazy Iowa folks not wanting their daughters to grow up to be whores.
    She was naked, thats it. How do you turn on your significant other, with a picture of you in 8 layers of clothes?
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