IMO Giuliani should be president
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I know I know you do not agree but he is the only one who I agree with when it comes to the issues.
To point out a few....
Abortion....pro choice, With that said, I do not think its ok to use it as a type of birth control. Regulate it.
Marriage....You and I do not have the right to tell people who to marry.
The American Borders....Secure the fuckers already.
Taxes.... Keep'em down
You can not argue the fact that he did a great job in cleaning up New York.
If you went there before and after you would understand.
Bring on the bashing baby.
To point out a few....
Abortion....pro choice, With that said, I do not think its ok to use it as a type of birth control. Regulate it.
Marriage....You and I do not have the right to tell people who to marry.
The American Borders....Secure the fuckers already.
Taxes.... Keep'em down
You can not argue the fact that he did a great job in cleaning up New York.
If you went there before and after you would understand.
Bring on the bashing baby.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
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Giuliani certainly was central in turning NYC around, but I think you fail to see the problem with using that as an argument for his presidency: his efforts in NYC could NOT have been accomplished with out Federal subsidy.
You need to understand this! Here is a quick article link i dug up with some relevance.
Sure, cutting your city's spending helps, but what was really key to "fixing" NYC was increasing revenues from subsidized sources! He got money by porkbarreling congress ... getting loopholes for allowing NYC to receive "extra" Medicaid funds, or by taxing out of state workers.
HOW IS HE GOING TO SUBSIDIZE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
Who else is there to steal money from when you are talking about the entire country? Thats it. Thats everyone and everything. There is no one left and no secret place to get that money from!
OH WAIT ... you mean ...
Besides finding more sneaky ways to tax you?
(like printing lots and lots of "money" -- which really does nothing more than STEAL wealth from YOU!)
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSk4SUpWVuY
not true.
McCain fucking proved that at the debates yesterday!
SMALL example!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I'm no dude! Dudette!
Agreed, we cant even afford our current military presence throughout the world and he wants to increase it. We can NOT afford what we have now, let alone what he would bring.
Why I would be afraid of Rudy as president:
He is basically ready to go to war with any country that even looks at us funny
I dont think he has the knowledge required on economics or foreign policy to be a serious candidate
His handling of the Bernard Kerik situation shows terrible decision making skills
It really bothers me that he doesnt have great support among NYC firemen and police
His strong supporter of The Patriot Act tells me he does not care about personal liberties, and individuals rights
I think his mis-use of city money and resources to shuttle his girlfriend around are terrible, and only show that with more power he will likely find more egregious ways to exploit his power
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Just his decisions on this guy will sink him real quick cause that guy is a sleazy crook.
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I am glad that most of the posts are not written in a nasty way, It lets me see other sides.
When posting here, please tell me who who think is a better candidate.
I do not think it would be a bad thing to increase our military, only b/c so many other countries hate us more then ever now, I am worried some might want to pick a fight. With that said, I DO NOT want to continue fighting wars.
I just want to be ready for one. You gotta defend yourself when attacked.
Rather have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
a. the constitution SPECIFICALY FORBIDS STANDING TROOPS IN TIMES OF PEACE.
Just FYI, take it or leave it if you don't like it, i guess.
it's only a goddamn piece of paper, but i certainly think we have plenty of muscle if we just don't use it wantonly and keep it ready for REAL times of need
and
b.
if America was not so damn arrogant, and willing to throw its troops at bullshit "occupations" and lies, we would have PLENTY of military power to take on ANY enemy that may want to do us harm ...
no one in the world has a military capable of rivaling ours ... even north korea with ONE MILLION plus in its marching army would have nothing on us ... how are they going to deploy those troops against us, how are they going to get a supply line to support those troops, air power to cover them, or anything else necessary to actualy wage a war against us that puts AMERICA in ANY danger?
Just think about it, before you fall for the paranoia.
Everything is okay.
Just call off the dogs, settle down, and let the world realize we really aren't the big bad bullies of the world ... it's just our asshat politicians!
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
I gotta say.............I could not agree more. Well played sir, well played.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
rudy is part of this military industrial complex - hence why his foreign policy is right in line with bush ... in my opinion - he has to be the worst choice for president as far as peace and liberties goes ...
There is no need to increase our military. As it stand we account for 49% of the worlds military spending. We spend almost as much as every other country on this planet compined. If you look at the top 25 countries when it comes to military spending, we are #1. We actually spend more than the other top 24 combined. Another thing to consider is where the funding for this military expansion will come from. If he is not going to raise taxes then where is the money going to come from. A) he is going to divert the funds from other areas or b) he is going to pass down the finacial burden to later generations.
As someone already stated Rudy did do a great job at reducing crime in the city. As someone who has been going into NYC since the Dinkins administration I have seen the turn around first hand and I applaud Rudy for a job well done. He did not do it alone though. I believe it was drifting who mentioned all the federal aid and how a significant portion of the finacial burden was placed on commuting workers. The NYC public school system also suffered under Rudy and the city was dead broke. If you where to compare Bloomberg with Rudy you would see that Bloomberg inproved the education system in NYC, decreased crime by a greater percentage than Rudy and brought the city out of finacial ruin without having raise taxes. He did so by cutting spending, something Rudy doesn't even know how to do.
Let's not even mention Rudy's ethics. Using tax payer dollars to have NYPD drive his mistress around. Then there is also the new stadiums for the Mets and Yankees. Even though NYC was finacially destitute he still oked the city to pay for half the cost of the new stadiums for both teams. Didn't even put it to a vote or hold town hall meeting to see what the public thought of this. The man is nothing short of a corporate whore who would continue to sell more and more of this country to special interests and corporations.
MANY years ago I said that if Rudy EVER became president I would leave the country. wah wah wah .....NOT READY TO GO!!!!!! RUDY IS BAD!!! (imho)
You mean that's not why they hate us? What could it possibly be then? You know what's really sad? When someone has the balls to say the real reason why they hate us, and then they get slammed by politicians (Rudy) pundits (Hannity, O'Reilly, really anyone at Fox) and ignorant voters alike. How will we ever get anywhere in this country when those who run for the highest office in the land continue to forcefeed us that pablum : they hate us because of our freedom
How about when he couldn't stop laughing at the tough questions Mr. Russert was asking him. This guy is the worst option for our country out of the whole entire lot, and it has nothing to do with the issues you raised...
That was great. That MTP should be mandatory viewing for anyone planning on voting for 9/11.
I thought his dentures were going to fall out, seriously.
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