I read about this story. I am not sure how they turned to come after him, when he left the safety of his home to shoot them. Plus the fact that he shot both of them as they were leaving makes me think he was more interested in shooting someone then stopping a crime. I mean you would think after he shot one the other would surrender. Plus if they had already broken in and were leaving, how is shooting them stopping any crime?
if he shot them on his property; and he was outside with 911; they had to have come after him. after all; they burgled his NEIGHBOURS house. he was in his yard with a phone and a gun. why did they leave in his direction?
he did stop a crime because the stolen goods were recovered. the fact that the one left alive didn't surrender makes me think he had a weapon too. the police won't release that information until the investigation is complete.
In case you do not know who he is, he is all over the news for shooting two young black guys who broke into his neighbors home and when they went to flee he told them to stop. He said they turned to come after him and he shot them both. They died on his property.
I am sure there are many people here who say that what he did was wrong but that is a load of crap. Its sad that they died but that kind of bullshit cannot be allowed. If they were breaking into my house I would expect my neighbor to do the same.
he was on the phone with the dispatcher for over 8 minutes. The cops took way too long.
make a difference eh? last i checked... yup... people are still committing crimes. i believe there was another one in chicago yesterday. damn, we were so close!
yeah, but don't worry. texans will know the difference and understand that boys will be boys. so you're safe... well, if you're white. if you're black... you're probably a thug.
you're doing your best to remove the criminal element in this case and make it about race; yet you say horn was itching to shoot someone anyway. you're talking out of both sides of your mouth like a democratic hopefull.
I know, your right but I put myself in that situation and I think I would do the same. I would sertenly try to stop them without killing them, but I would also not let them get away
he's not right. they were killed on horn's property. texas has a law that it's illegal to shoot someone in the back. and texas also has an express lane for the death penalty. the fact that he wasn't arrested on the spot tells me that they were not running away. texas law would give him the death penalty if he shot them in the back; no matter what colour they were. it was texas that jailed 2 border agents for life after shooting an illegal sneeking over the border. texas law is tough be it speeding or murder.
btw; did you teach your wife how to use a gun after your incident? if so; tell her the number one thing that gets an armed citizen killed by their own gun is hesitation. police are taught to use the "seven yard rule". 7 yards is the time it takes a practiced person to draw; aim; and fire. if you let them get closer; they'll disarm you. if they're armed; SHOOT. as fast as you can. NEVER shoot someone in the back. you'll go to jail.
I know, your right but I put myself in that situation and I think I would do the same. I would sertenly try to stop them without killing them, but I would also not let them get away
Yeah, whatever happened to a nice bullet in the leg, some good old incapacitation just so they are out of action long enough for the cops to come and they can receive a punishment befitting the crime, y'know, as opposed to being blown away for burglary.
Some hero.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
only 8 year old boys have heroes... and Joe Horn sounds like a name an 8 year old would give his first erection.
only in america will someone hero-worship killers
next thread... " i'm pregnant with Mark Chapman's twins"
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I would sertenly try to stop them without killing them
anyone who spells certainly as '..sertenly..' shouldn't be allowed to purchase a pack of balloons never mind own a fucking gun.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
anyone who spells certainly as '..sertenly..' should be allowed to purchase a pack of balloons never mind own a fucking gun.
Therein lies America's problem over other countries that allow the ownership of guns.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
In case you do not know who he is, he is all over the news for shooting two young black guys who broke into his neighbors home and when they went to flee he told them to stop. He said they turned to come after him and he shot them both. They died on his property.
I am sure there are many people here who say that what he did was wrong but that is a load of crap. Its sad that they died but that kind of bullshit cannot be allowed. If they were breaking into my house I would expect my neighbor to do the same.
he was on the phone with the dispatcher for over 8 minutes. The cops took way too long.
(Sorry that I did not post the story)
Not even your Ali quote can save you from that racist blurb.
They were thieves, burglars, period.
Not even your Ali quote can save you from that racist blurb.
They were thieves, burglars, period.
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God forbid I describe the color of a person in here. WTF? They were black no?
Quit pulling the race card. You have no idea what you are talking about.
And...........I just found out last night that they were illegal immigrants.
They have no business being here in the first place.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
God forbid I describe the color of a person in here. WYF? They were black no?
Quit pulling the race card. You have no idea what you are talking about.
And...........I just found out last night that they were illegal immigrants.
They have no business being here in the first place.
are you saying it's ok to shoot illegal immigrants...?
God forbid I describe the color of a person in here. WTF? They were black no?
Quit pulling the race card. You have no idea what you are talking about.
And...........I just found out last night that they were illegal immigrants.
They have no business being here in the first place.
I don't praise a man for a situation in which he feels he must act in defense of life, limb, or property. Or even his neighbor's property. I'll defend his right to act on such a situation in such a way, but that doesn't make it any less tragic. There's a difference between us, and yours is of a bloodlust toward those who you think should be feared.
are you saying it's ok to shoot illegal immigrants...?
Come on goober. Of course not, but it just proves tha fact that we need to really do something about the situation in America.
I am sure there are people in here who think we should just let everyone come and go into this country as they please but that would ruin the world we live in period.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
God forbid I describe the color of a person in here. WTF? They were black no?
Quit pulling the race card. You have no idea what you are talking about.
And...........I just found out last night that they were illegal immigrants.
They have no business being here in the first place.
I believe Gue_Barium's point was, their race should not be an issue. Your story should have read "he is all over the news for shooting two young burglars". What the hell does their colour have to do with it? If they were white would you have said "Joe Horn is all over the news for shooting two white burglars"? Hell no. The fact that you don't see where offence could be taken in what you wrote is really indicative of everything being said here.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
he's not right. they were killed on horn's property. texas has a law that it's illegal to shoot someone in the back. and texas also has an express lane for the death penalty. the fact that he wasn't arrested on the spot tells me that they were not running away. texas law would give him the death penalty if he shot them in the back; no matter what colour they were. it was texas that jailed 2 border agents for life after shooting an illegal sneeking over the border. texas law is tough be it speeding or murder.
btw; did you teach your wife how to use a gun after your incident? if so; tell her the number one thing that gets an armed citizen killed by their own gun is hesitation. police are taught to use the "seven yard rule". 7 yards is the time it takes a practiced person to draw; aim; and fire. if you let them get closer; they'll disarm you. if they're armed; SHOOT. as fast as you can. NEVER shoot someone in the back. you'll go to jail.
btw; did you teach your wife how to use a gun after your incident?
I tried but she hates guns. She would rather not have them in the house but I believe that its better to have guns and not need them, then to need them and not have them.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I believe Gue_Barium's point was, their race should not be an issue. Your story should have read "he is all over the news for shooting two young burglars". What the hell does their colour have to do with it? If they were white would you have said "Joe Horn is all over the news for shooting two white burglars"? Hell no. The fact that you don't see where offence could be taken in what you wrote is really indicative of everything being said here.
Do you think I have a clan mask in my closet or something? I describe them as black so that makes me a racist? You'r nuts. You are reading into it way to much.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Do you think I have a clan mask in my closet or something? I describe them as black so that makes me a racist? You'r nuts. You are reading into it way to much.
I never said you were racist, it just implies an undercurrent of many white americans' belief that black people are criminals because of their race and not their personality, an undercurrent based on ignorance rather than instilled racism. Tell me why exactly it was necessary to make the distinction of race and if it makes sense, I will accept. As of yet, I can't see any possible reason.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Come on goober. Of course not, but it just proves tha fact that we need to really do something about the situation in America.
I am sure there are people in here who think we should just let everyone come and go into this country as they please but that would ruin the world we live in period.
ok there Vinnie Chesthair...
ruin the country, huh...? it's interesting that some, like you, blame immigration for all the ills of this country...
as for your hero, Killa Joe Horn, he should be put in jail...two wrongs don't make a right...I'm sure you subscribe the notion that we are a nation of laws, and shooting people and acting as judge, jury, and executioner is not legal...
ruin the country, huh...? it's interesting that some, like you, blame immigration for all the ills of this country...
as for your hero, Killa Joe Horn, he should be put in jail...two wrongs don't make a right...I'm sure you subscribe the notion that we are a nation of laws, and shooting people and acting as judge, jury, and executioner is not legal...
Vinnie Chesthair????
LOL. hahahaha.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I never said you were racist, it just implies an undercurrent of many white americans' belief that black people are criminals because of their race and not their personality, an undercurrent based on ignorance rather than instilled racism. Tell me why exactly it was necessary to make the distinction of race and if it makes sense, I will accept. As of yet, I can't see any possible reason.
what a bunch of crap
they were black, so what?
every newscast does the same thing.....take a freaking pill
every newscast does the same thing.....take a freaking pill
Did you even read my posts you moron?
If a newsreader read a story reading "Joe Horn is a hero across america for shooting two black people", are you telling me that the distinction of race there is irrelevant? Because that's what acoustic guy said. why not just "people"? Why the fuck does it matter what colour they were?
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
every newscast does the same thing.....take a freaking pill
that maybe an expression of the problem, not normality.
would he have said "shot two white burglars" if they were white? By specifying the colour of people involved in a violent crime you end up assimilating this minority with violent crimes. And when the media does that repeatedly it does show some kind of problem. I don't think this is pc, just a basic reflex we learn to have (btw I'm not saying this is a problem with the us only)
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if he shot them on his property; and he was outside with 911; they had to have come after him. after all; they burgled his NEIGHBOURS house. he was in his yard with a phone and a gun. why did they leave in his direction?
he did stop a crime because the stolen goods were recovered. the fact that the one left alive didn't surrender makes me think he had a weapon too. the police won't release that information until the investigation is complete.
if you're my neighbour; i'd do the same.
NOT IN HORN'S NEIGHBOURHOOD!
you're doing your best to remove the criminal element in this case and make it about race; yet you say horn was itching to shoot someone anyway. you're talking out of both sides of your mouth like a democratic hopefull.
he's not right. they were killed on horn's property. texas has a law that it's illegal to shoot someone in the back. and texas also has an express lane for the death penalty. the fact that he wasn't arrested on the spot tells me that they were not running away. texas law would give him the death penalty if he shot them in the back; no matter what colour they were. it was texas that jailed 2 border agents for life after shooting an illegal sneeking over the border. texas law is tough be it speeding or murder.
btw; did you teach your wife how to use a gun after your incident? if so; tell her the number one thing that gets an armed citizen killed by their own gun is hesitation. police are taught to use the "seven yard rule". 7 yards is the time it takes a practiced person to draw; aim; and fire. if you let them get closer; they'll disarm you. if they're armed; SHOOT. as fast as you can. NEVER shoot someone in the back. you'll go to jail.
Some hero.
only 8 year old boys have heroes... and Joe Horn sounds like a name an 8 year old would give his first erection.
only in america will someone hero-worship killers
next thread... " i'm pregnant with Mark Chapman's twins"
anyone who spells certainly as '..sertenly..' shouldn't be allowed to purchase a pack of balloons never mind own a fucking gun.
Not even your Ali quote can save you from that racist blurb.
They were thieves, burglars, period.
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Doesn't matter, he was going to hide in his back yard, anyway.
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God forbid I describe the color of a person in here. WTF? They were black no?
Quit pulling the race card. You have no idea what you are talking about.
And...........I just found out last night that they were illegal immigrants.
They have no business being here in the first place.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Ok now that's funny.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
are you saying it's ok to shoot illegal immigrants...?
I don't praise a man for a situation in which he feels he must act in defense of life, limb, or property. Or even his neighbor's property. I'll defend his right to act on such a situation in such a way, but that doesn't make it any less tragic. There's a difference between us, and yours is of a bloodlust toward those who you think should be feared.
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Come on goober. Of course not, but it just proves tha fact that we need to really do something about the situation in America.
I am sure there are people in here who think we should just let everyone come and go into this country as they please but that would ruin the world we live in period.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
btw; did you teach your wife how to use a gun after your incident?
I tried but she hates guns. She would rather not have them in the house but I believe that its better to have guns and not need them, then to need them and not have them.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Do you think I have a clan mask in my closet or something? I describe them as black so that makes me a racist? You'r nuts. You are reading into it way to much.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
ok there Vinnie Chesthair...
ruin the country, huh...? it's interesting that some, like you, blame immigration for all the ills of this country...
as for your hero, Killa Joe Horn, he should be put in jail...two wrongs don't make a right...I'm sure you subscribe the notion that we are a nation of laws, and shooting people and acting as judge, jury, and executioner is not legal...
Vinnie Chesthair????
LOL. hahahaha.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
what a bunch of crap
they were black, so what?
every newscast does the same thing.....take a freaking pill
If a newsreader read a story reading "Joe Horn is a hero across america for shooting two black people", are you telling me that the distinction of race there is irrelevant? Because that's what acoustic guy said. why not just "people"? Why the fuck does it matter what colour they were?
that maybe an expression of the problem, not normality.
would he have said "shot two white burglars" if they were white? By specifying the colour of people involved in a violent crime you end up assimilating this minority with violent crimes. And when the media does that repeatedly it does show some kind of problem. I don't think this is pc, just a basic reflex we learn to have (btw I'm not saying this is a problem with the us only)
Ahh...all the newscasts do it, so it must be okay.
Just take a pill!
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awaiting payment...thank you for your biz!
there will never be another crime there again eh? yeah, i believe that.
And if it don't, well shit farr take 'em out there Pomeroy way and lern 'em there, too!