How about this...

Dirtie_Frank

pateljam wrote:

So a federal tax of 10% AND my current state tax of 8%... shit I don't know about that...

Not sure about the percentage just saying for example maybe 5%.

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Dirtie_Frank wrote:

No more income tax. How about a (Just throwing a figure out here) 10% tax on purchases? That would make everyone who purchases something, pretty much everyone, contribute. Even illeagal aliens would be contributing to the country to.

It's nice to see someone acknowledge that illegal immigrants DO pay taxes and contribute to the country. Thank you.

fugawzi

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

Even illeagal aliens would be contributing to the country too.

Illegal aliens do contribute to the country. They clean houses, help build houses, roofs, buildings, pick fruit, mow lawns, work at fast food restaurants doing all kinds of different jobs, the list goes on. They pay sales tax when buying things, they spend money putting it into our economy.

Dirtie_Frank

fugawzi wrote:

Illegal aliens do contribute to the country. They clean houses, help build houses, roofs, buildings, pick fruit, mow lawns, work at fast food restaurants doing all kinds of different jobs, the list goes on. They pay sales tax when buying things, they spend money putting it into our economy.

Maybe they should become citizens and wait like all the ones before them.

fugawzi

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

Maybe they should become citizens and wait like all the ones before them.

That's besides the point that you made, which wasn't really a point at all, because they DO contribute. Many of them do try to become legal citizens. Here's a thought. Maybe we, this country, should do a BETTER job of protecting and controlling our borders, thus not allowing illegals to enter illegally in the first place. Instead of the current situation, that basically encourages illegals to come in, knowing there probably won't be any consequence. Maybe that's because people who have that power actually want illegals working here, benefiting from their cheap labor, knowing the illegals won't really get much back in terms of a tax return or free medical care. It's not as simple as you suggest.

mammasan

There is already a plan out there like this, it's called the Fair Tax. It's a 26% national sales tax that would completely eliminate the current tax system and the IRS.

polaris

so what services would be funded by this tax?

Pacomc79

you have to have some sort of rebate that pays back everyone the tax money up to a certain monitary level like they currently do with tax credits, though these go to everyone via check or DD based on likely a social security number. Part of the IRS would just move into the role of determining what level of income should essentially be paying no tax... which would be the effect after the rebate.

That's the only way to make a sales tax not be regressive. It would simplify life and fund the government extrordinarily well though. I don't think you could adequately fund the government with a 10% sales tax though.

The group that came up with the fair tax originally found 23% was adequate to fund the government at least at the current level.

PJ_Saluki

Pacomc79 wrote:

...I don't think you could adequately fund the government with a 10% sales tax though.

The group that came up with the fair tax originally found 23% was adequate to fund the government at least at the current level.

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people who want a flat sales tax understand how much money income tax generates. They throw out a 10-percent figure because it's easy to swallow. It's a tax to fund the government, not a cheap tip for a shitty waitress. Ask the same people who want a flat tax if they want to pay $625 for something that used to cost $500 and I imagine their excitement about a flat tax would wane.

jeffbr

PJ_Saluki wrote:

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people who want a flat sales tax understand how much money income tax generates. They throw out a 10-percent figure because it's easy to swallow. It's a tax to fund the government, not a cheap tip for a shitty waitress. Ask the same people who want a flat tax if they want to pay $625 for something that used to cost $500 and I imagine their excitement about a flat tax would wane.

Excellent, so lets scale back the government so that it has to be funded w/ a 10% sales tax. Paying $625 for something that used to cost $500 wouldn't be a bad thing if all of the money that the government took from my income were actually in my bank account instead.