Bill Maher on Daily SHow
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Great stuff. The farce of magical religion is on its way out...may be a while but its going. Can't wait to see the movie.
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The movie looks interesting, i'll probably go see it if I have some time. Oh and another thing, he often seems to ignore many strong points against his own views or arguments. Even on his show, if he starts to lose the debate, he will throw in a great joke and move on.
But anyway, he's a good voice in general.
Debbie Schlessinger once said on national tv, "Atheists are future muslims."
And what really gets under my skin is when people say that America is about freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion.
Of course when I hear comments like that, I can't help but feel somewhat threatened. But, most of all, they're just all around stupid comments with no basis in reality what so ever.
And it begs the question: Why do so many people harbor opinions which are so fundamentally unsound?
The answer is that in spite of all of our technological advancements of modern society, we still know next to nothing about how the human personality really functions. This gives way to an infinite number of false beliefs and misconceptions about what defines who we are.
And among those false beliefs and misconceptions are the aforementioned which fuel my disdain for religion.
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Great point..and agree humans just have an inherent need for security. We evolved to be thinkers and thus recognized our environment. Religion was created as a tool to keep our sanity and to understand our environment. Exactly the same as the Greek Gods. We now though understand much of how our environment works and its in direct conflict with the Bible. Is there a god...who knows...but we do know the world isn't flat, we're not the center of our solar system and Noah didn't get two of each animal on a boat.
There are leaders that understand this need to have security through a God and use it to reach and stay in power. Its just so simple its scary.
We will though evolve...this charade can't last. Can it???
You're preaching to the choir, so to speak. I'm with you.
And people who believe that there is a white haired man in the sky calling all the shots will explain it all with one word -- faith. It's a fail safe argument. One that science people don't have the luxury of making. We have to prove things with facts and evidence.
Am preaching to the choir LOL...the problem though is many that feel this way don't go out in our daily lives and point out the obvious to all the "believers"...no one questions it....its off limits.
Really glad Bill made this movie..maybe others will finally get the balls to question.
It's those that say a hurricane is god's wrath or those that pray to god to win a football game that drive me crazy.
I'm not with him on his personal view of religion but that was brilliant. I could completely appreciate it.
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I totally agree with you on this.
I am tired of people questioning my morals because I do not believe this fairy tale that I am supposed to simply because we are told to with blind faith.
I do not understand how people do not question what they are told to believe. It has always been crazy to me.
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Why?
Because he does not fully understand religion, and if you bash something that you do not fully understand. That's not a good thing.
What makes you say he does not fully understand religion?
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
Exactly
Based on his arguments during his last two tv shows, which I watched. He comes across as very narrow minded about religion for the most part.
He has made many mistakes when speaking about religion. Many historical inaccuracies for starters.
He does make some solid points and asks some good questions. But I think for the most part he's off base.
Anyway, I'll check the movie out and I guess post any counter arguments on the board after. Should be fun.
Because religion is not a negative as Bill Mahr likes to portray it. I personally am not a religious person but I'm not so naive to think that people who are are somehow less intelligent or have a mental disorder as Bill likes to say. The only problem I have are though who choose to force their religious beliefs onto others.
It's his job to be over the top and make people laugh. It's his job to entertain, not to teach ...
If you have a new perspective based on what he says ... if it makes you think ... well, good ...
But, let's not pump him up like he's some world renowned theologist.
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AMEN to that!
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
yes! Perfect.
I agree that religious people don't have a mental disorder. Maybe I have missed his point but my understanding is that he believes that the majority of people are religious and haven't really asked the hard questions about it. Blind faith.
It seems to be that his efforts are directed towards getting people to ask those hard questions. He even said himself last night something to the effect of "i'm not atheist because even that implies that I know the RIGHT answer and I don't claim that at all"
I don't have a problem with religon, as long as those people don't believe that everybody else is damned to hell because they don't believe the same way. That is where trouble starts. History has documented the effects of believing like this...
MrB,
can you give examples of or do you have links to the many mistakes or inaccuracies to which you're referring? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just asking for a specific example.
I actually disagree that he's narrow minded about religion. He was raised catholic, and himself has said he is "not an atheist". He just looks at the subject in a rational manner. We don't know. Nobody knows. People have the right to believe in what they want, as he has the right to express how ridiculous he thinks those beliefs are. Many good things have come from religion, but do they outweigh the bad? Wars, death, oppression, sexual abuse, on and on. Some see it as more harmful than good. Watch the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IcUumWzue4
Great video!
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
Why doesnt he fully understand it? I would say he understands it more than most religious people to be honest. Religion is simply stories passed down, and eventually written down by people who didnt have the slightest understanding of science, the world, the body, etc. So they made stories up to try to explain things they obviously did not understand.