Bill Maher on Daily SHow

callen
callen Posts: 6,388
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
Great stuff. The farce of magical religion is on its way out...may be a while but its going. Can't wait to see the movie.
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  • darthvedder81
    darthvedder81 Posts: 688
    Bill Maher is a doofus.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    Bill Maher is a doofus.
    nah...just takes a bit to understand his humour so many miss out.
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    He's funny and quite smart. But he often say's some stupid things.

    The movie looks interesting, i'll probably go see it if I have some time. Oh and another thing, he often seems to ignore many strong points against his own views or arguments. Even on his show, if he starts to lose the debate, he will throw in a great joke and move on.

    But anyway, he's a good voice in general.
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    Religion wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't have to hear people say things like "atheists are morally deprived" and "atheists don't have any beliefs" and so forth.

    Debbie Schlessinger once said on national tv, "Atheists are future muslims."

    And what really gets under my skin is when people say that America is about freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion.

    Of course when I hear comments like that, I can't help but feel somewhat threatened. But, most of all, they're just all around stupid comments with no basis in reality what so ever.

    And it begs the question: Why do so many people harbor opinions which are so fundamentally unsound?

    The answer is that in spite of all of our technological advancements of modern society, we still know next to nothing about how the human personality really functions. This gives way to an infinite number of false beliefs and misconceptions about what defines who we are.

    And among those false beliefs and misconceptions are the aforementioned which fuel my disdain for religion.
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  • sweetpotato
    sweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    While I agree that organized religion has its problems... and that fundamentalists in ANY religion are whackjobs, I don't agree that any person with religious beliefs is stupid or incapable of seeing things from a secular perspective as well. I think when we demonize all people of faith, we are doing exactly what we accuse them of doing, like saying that non-believers are by definition immoral or evil. It's a narrow way of thinking and in this day and age we can't afford more narrowmindedness.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Did anyone else see Stewart blow up on Congress? That was impressive.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    sweetpotato wrote:
    While I agree that organized religion has its problems... and that fundamentalists in ANY religion are whackjobs, I don't agree that any person with religious beliefs is stupid or incapable of seeing things from a secular perspective as well. I think when we demonize all people of faith, we are doing exactly what we accuse them of doing, like saying that non-believers are by definition immoral or evil. It's a narrow way of thinking and in this day and age we can't afford more narrowmindedness.

    Great point..and agree humans just have an inherent need for security. We evolved to be thinkers and thus recognized our environment. Religion was created as a tool to keep our sanity and to understand our environment. Exactly the same as the Greek Gods. We now though understand much of how our environment works and its in direct conflict with the Bible. Is there a god...who knows...but we do know the world isn't flat, we're not the center of our solar system and Noah didn't get two of each animal on a boat.

    There are leaders that understand this need to have security through a God and use it to reach and stay in power. Its just so simple its scary.

    We will though evolve...this charade can't last. Can it???
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Did anyone else see Stewart blow up on Congress? That was impressive.
    "No one's in control!!!!!!!"
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  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,577
    callen wrote:
    Great point..and agree humans just have an inherent need for security. We evolved to be thinkers and thus recognized our environment. Religion was created as a tool to keep our sanity and to understand our environment. Exactly the same as the Greek Gods. We now though understand much of how our environment works and its in direct conflict with the Bible. Is there a god...who knows...but we do know the world isn't flat, we're not the center of our solar system and Noah didn't get two of each animal on a boat.

    There are leaders that understand this need to have security through a God and use it to reach and stay in power. Its just so simple its scary.

    We will though evolve...this charade can't last. Can it???


    You're preaching to the choir, so to speak. I'm with you.

    And people who believe that there is a white haired man in the sky calling all the shots will explain it all with one word -- faith. It's a fail safe argument. One that science people don't have the luxury of making. We have to prove things with facts and evidence.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    meistereder wrote:
    You're preaching to the choir, so to speak. I'm with you.

    And people who believe that there is a white haired man in the sky calling all the shots will explain it all with one word -- faith. It's a fail safe argument. One that science people don't have the luxury of making. We have to prove things with facts and evidence.

    Am preaching to the choir LOL...the problem though is many that feel this way don't go out in our daily lives and point out the obvious to all the "believers"...no one questions it....its off limits.

    Really glad Bill made this movie..maybe others will finally get the balls to question.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    I like Bill Mahr but I have to say I don't approve of his constant bashing of religion. I can agree with his opinion on fundamentalist but to completely ridicule all religion is a bit over the top.
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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    I have no problem with educated intelligent people of faith.

    It's those that say a hurricane is god's wrath or those that pray to god to win a football game that drive me crazy.
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  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    The God/Jesus dichotomy was pretty funny.

    I'm not with him on his personal view of religion but that was brilliant. I could completely appreciate it.
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  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    sponger wrote:
    Religion wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't have to hear people say things like "atheists are morally deprived" and "atheists don't have any beliefs" and so forth.

    Debbie Schlessinger once said on national tv, "Atheists are future muslims."

    And what really gets under my skin is when people say that America is about freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion.

    Of course when I hear comments like that, I can't help but feel somewhat threatened. But, most of all, they're just all around stupid comments with no basis in reality what so ever.

    And it begs the question: Why do so many people harbor opinions which are so fundamentally unsound?

    The answer is that in spite of all of our technological advancements of modern society, we still know next to nothing about how the human personality really functions. This gives way to an infinite number of false beliefs and misconceptions about what defines who we are.

    And among those false beliefs and misconceptions are the aforementioned which fuel my disdain for religion.

    I totally agree with you on this.

    I am tired of people questioning my morals because I do not believe this fairy tale that I am supposed to simply because we are told to with blind faith.

    I do not understand how people do not question what they are told to believe. It has always been crazy to me.
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  • Speakers
    Speakers Posts: 252
    mammasan wrote:
    I like Bill Mahr but I have to say I don't approve of his constant bashing of religion. I can agree with his opinion on fundamentalist but to completely ridicule all religion is a bit over the top.

    Why?
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Speakers wrote:
    Why?

    Because he does not fully understand religion, and if you bash something that you do not fully understand. That's not a good thing.
  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    MrBrian wrote:
    Because he does not fully understand religion, and if you bash something that you do not fully understand. That's not a good thing.


    What makes you say he does not fully understand religion?
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  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    I think he understands religion perfectly, and recognizes it for the farce that it is.
  • Red Burrito
    Red Burrito Posts: 484
    JWBusher wrote:
    I think he understands religion perfectly, and recognizes it for the farce that it is.

    Exactly
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    QuestionAuthority wrote:
    What makes you say he does not fully understand religion?

    Based on his arguments during his last two tv shows, which I watched. He comes across as very narrow minded about religion for the most part.

    He has made many mistakes when speaking about religion. Many historical inaccuracies for starters.

    He does make some solid points and asks some good questions. But I think for the most part he's off base.

    Anyway, I'll check the movie out and I guess post any counter arguments on the board after. Should be fun.

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