Student Adds Memorial Stone for VTech Gunman

crittablescrittables Posts: 342
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
just curious what everyone's thoughts are on this. i can see the argument eitehr way.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/student-adds-memorial-stone-for-gunman/20070426115109990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Student Adds Memorial Stone for Gunman
Virginia Tech Senior Cites Moral Responsibility
AP
BLACKSBURG, Va. (April 26) - A senior at Virginia Tech said moral responsibility led her to add a stone for gunman Seung-Hui Cho to a memorial for his 32 shooting victims that was set up at Virginia Tech late last week.
The stone was later removed, but was restored by Wednesday morning.

Katelynn Johnson, a senior sociology-psychology major, identified herself in a letter to the Collegiate Times as the person who added the stone for Cho.

"My family did not raise me to do what is popular," she wrote in her letter to the campus newspaper. "They raised me to do what is morally right. We did not lose only 32 students and faculty members that day; we lost 33 lives."

In her letter, Johnson said she feared a backlash from students and possibly faculty members who did not agree with having a stone for the killer included in the memorial. But she said feedback since the letter was published has been largely positive.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    I would not want him as part of the memorial, but I sincerely hope that she does not take too much heat for this.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    that is an example of true courage
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    polaris wrote:
    that is an example of true courage
    I agree. Her parents should be proud of her.
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  • crittablescrittables Posts: 342
    polaris wrote:
    that is an example of true courage


    i agree. i think the gunmen's family probably appreciates it just as much as the victims families.
  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    i can see the argument for both sides of this, for and against having the memorial for him.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    polaris wrote:
    that is an example of true courage

    Not so sure about that. And I'm not sure she went about this the right way. Maybe a stone should be included for the killer, but perhaps bringing up the discussion first rather than just doing it, huh?

    Anyhow, my vote would be to not include a stone for the cause of the other stones, but I can definitely see the value and could be convinced otherwise.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Not so sure about that. And I'm not sure she went about this the right way. Maybe a stone should be included for the killer, but perhaps bringing up the discussion first rather than just doing it, huh?

    Anyhow, my vote would be to not include a stone for the cause of the other stones, but I can definitely see the value and could be convinced otherwise.

    my comment isn't about whether the stone should be there or not ... only about her actions ...
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    polaris wrote:
    my comment isn't about whether the stone should be there or not ... only about her actions ...

    And I don;t see how sneaking a stone for a killer in a memorial and then writing a letter about it equals courage.

    I think the policeforce that ran towards the building with a gunman that killed over 30 students is the definition of courage.

    But to each their own I suppose....
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    I'm not sure what I think about it, but my initial response is to believe that she did the right thing.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    And I don;t see how sneaking a stone for a killer in a memorial and then writing a letter about it equals courage.

    I think the policeforce that ran towards the building with a gunman that killed over 30 students is the definition of courage.

    But to each their own I suppose....

    because she acted in the face of popular opinion to do what she felt was morally right ... she owned up to what she did and was prepared to suffer any consequences ...
  • crittablescrittables Posts: 342
    And I don;t see how sneaking a stone for a killer in a memorial and then writing a letter about it equals courage.

    I think the policeforce that ran towards the building with a gunman that killed over 30 students is the definition of courage.

    But to each their own I suppose....


    courage doesn't just have to be about facing physical threats. there is the threat here of backlash from other students, not necessarily violent backlash. so i think it's courageous.
  • binauralsoundsbinauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    polaris wrote:
    that is an example of true courage

    True courage for putting a stone out for a mass murderer? Yah, REAL COURAGE!

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  • OneLoveOneLove Posts: 563
    It takes a big heart, and true compassion to do something like this.

    I'm not saying that everyone dosn't have a right to their opinions, or that they would be wrong to NOT want the killer included in the memorial, but at the same time, there is a grieving mother & family involved for this person too. The shooters life met a tragic end as well.

    For some reason when I first read this, I thought about ground zero in NY. I would have had a totally different reaction to someone memorializing the hijackers on 9/11. I don't mean to open up a whole other debate here, but I am not sure what the difference is beyond a gut feeling, a sense of sympathy that the VA tech shooter felt so enraged and depressed about his life that he felt he had no other options. The hijackers were something of a different breed to me.

    Its an interesting debate, and both sides have valid points.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    polaris wrote:
    because she acted in the face of popular opinion to do what she felt was morally right ... she owned up to what she did and was prepared to suffer any consequences ...


    Yeah, I can kinda see that....but 'true courage' is a bit strong. Maybe I'm making a big deal over semantics.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I can easily see both sides of this one. It's very encouraging, however, that everyone at VTech seems to be handling this like adults.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Yeah, I can kinda see that....but 'true courage' is a bit strong. Maybe I'm making a big deal over semantics.

    maybe ... maybe not - it's up to you to decide ... we can all define that word our own way ...
  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    the more i think about it, the more i disagree with it. i think the memorial should honor the victims, and as hard as i try, i just don't see him as a victim here.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    It reminds me of the Amish community after that shooting a couple of years ago. I do understand what she did and why she did it, but at the same time, I don't agree with it.

    If she wants to mourn or grieve the loss of Cho's life, I certainly respect that, but I don't think that it belongs with the rest of the innocent victims of the tragedy.

    She must be much more forgiving than me, because I couldn't do it... if someone shot and killed my friends or relatives or whatever, the last thing that I would want to do is honor them in some way.
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  • Shows she has a heart of kindness, but not necessarily one of courage. Besides, she wasn't celebrating him in any way, just highlighting the fact that 33 lives were lost.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    Shows she has a heart of kindness, but not necessarily one of courage. Besides, she wasn't celebrating him in any way, just highlighting the fact that 33 lives were lost.

    Yeah, but 32 of those lives were taken.

    Only 1 person planned to lose their life that day.

    I feel for his family, but they can have their own memorial for him.
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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    I wouldn't do it, but I can appreciate where she's coming from. The killer probably was once a normal person. It's easy for people to lose sight of that fact. Of course, it was easy for that asshole to lose sight of the fact that he was killing innocent people. Human life has never been incredibly valuable, I guess.
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