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Warnings on WMD 'Fabricator' Were Ignored, Ex-CIA Aide Says

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edited June 2006 in A Moving Train
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/24/AR2006062401081.html?nav=rss_nation

Umm, in case there people out there that still believe the lies told by the Bushies were just based on "bad intelligence" please read. Can we all finally just admit they lied to us now and move forward!
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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sorry, this story is too factual and credible for the bush supporters to offer up a reply on it. well,there is one...he says he's writing a books o you'll either hear:
    -he's trying to sell his book
    or
    -sour grapes

    a few days ago a bushie demanded someone show proof that the administration lied...i gave a link to the white house's own site w/ a speech by bush where he said the IAEA's report said Iraq is 6 months away from a nuke...i gave 2 other links, one w/ the IAEA denying they ever said anything like that and the other w/ their actual report...of course the poster never came back to reply nor did any of the other supporters

    of course they fuckin lied! but you'll never hear any of them admit it, they'll fight it and rationalize it and justify it and make excuses as to why it really wasn't a lie
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    El_Kabong wrote:
    sorry, this story is too factual and credible for the bush supporters to offer up a reply on it. well,there is one...he says he's writing a books o you'll either hear:
    -he's trying to sell his book
    or
    -sour grapes

    a few days ago a bushie demanded someone show proof that the administration lied...i gave a link to the white house's own site w/ a speech by bush where he said the IAEA's report said Iraq is 6 months away from a nuke...i gave 2 other links, one w/ the IAEA denying they ever said anything like that and the other w/ their actual report...of course the poster never came back to reply nor did any of the other supporters

    of course they fuckin lied! but you'll never hear any of them admit it, they'll fight it and rationalize it and justify it and make excuses as to why it really wasn't a lie

    Come on, Bonger, you know it's semantics unless it involves Clinton's lie. Bush really believed we could build permanent bases with ease, I mean find those terrible WMD's hidden all over the country. What was it Rummy said -- something like we know where they are, they are north, south, east, and west of Baghdad.
  • mdg164mdg164 Posts: 206
    Coalition forces found some of Saddam's WMD. Why wasn't the public told?
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008568
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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    mdg164 wrote:
    Coalition forces found some of Saddam's WMD. Why wasn't the public told?
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008568

    "Since 2003," the summary states, "Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent," which remains "hazardous and potentially lethal." So there are WMDs in Iraq, and they could kill Americans there or all over the world.

    You could kill more americans all over the world with an inventory of baseball bats.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    mdg164 wrote:
    Coalition forces found some of Saddam's WMD. Why wasn't the public told?
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008568


    b/c the weapons were old, degraded and worthless
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • mdg164mdg164 Posts: 206
    El_Kabong wrote:
    b/c the weapons were old, degraded and worthless

    which remains "hazardous and potentially lethal"

    I am sure they didn't like the power that WMDs gave them, and decided to never make them again. And the U.S., like idiots didn't belive them. Would a mass murderer lie?
    09/02/00 09/05/00
    04/25/03 05/02/03 5/3/03 6/24/03 6/28/03 7/5/03 7/6/03 7/11/03 7/12/03 7/14/03
    09/28/04 09/29/04 10/01/04 10/02/04
    09/28/05 09/30/05 10/03/05
    5/24/06 5/25/06 5/27/06 5/28/06 5/30/06 6/01/06 6/03/06 6/23/06 6/24/06 7/22/06 7/23/06
    6/20/08 6/22/08 6/24/08 6/25/08
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    mdg164 wrote:
    which remains "hazardous and potentially lethal"

    I am sure they didn't like the power that WMDs gave them, and decided to never make them again. And the U.S., like idiots didn't belive them. Would a mass murderer lie?

    sorry, but degraded and unusable weapons are not the same thing as 'knowing where the mobile labs are'

    also:
    "A Pentagon official who confirmed the findings said that all the weapons were pre-1991 vintage munitions "in such a degraded state they couldn't be used for what they are designed for."

    so yes, they probably were bad to be near if they went off, but nowhere near the scale they are intended for. like comparing a sneeze to aids. i don't think it's as much a matter of 'deciding' to not make them anymore as not being 'able' to make them anymore

    as to would a mass murderer lie? of course they would, but your vice president and sec of def are also mass murderers w/ their decades of secret wars and their own mass graves
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    mdg164 wrote:
    which remains "hazardous and potentially lethal"

    I am sure they didn't like the power that WMDs gave them, and decided to never make them again. And the U.S., like idiots didn't belive them. Would a mass murderer lie?

    no.. that is not why.. its because chemical weapons are obsolete.. have no value.. he knew that - so did bush.

    Thats why he didn't have them and thats why we didn't need to invade even if he did
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
    Here you go BS,try to follow along.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    and Bush's ratings are better than ever!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576.html?cmpid=sf#ixzz3bzojmdl0
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    Gern Blansten said:

    and Bush's ratings are better than ever!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576.html?cmpid=sf#ixzz3bzojmdl0

    Great to bad he can't run for prez again oh yeah i forgot his brother is not to much difference just a bit taller ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    josevolution said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    and Bush's ratings are better than ever!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576.html?cmpid=sf#ixzz3bzojmdl0

    Great to bad he can't run for prez again oh yeah i forgot his brother is not to much difference just a bit taller ....
    Jeb is way better the His Brother.And quite a bit more moderate.As I've stated.He was my Gov for 8 years and did a damn good job.Credit where credit is due.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    Gern Blansten said:

    and Bush's ratings are better than ever!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576.html?cmpid=sf#ixzz3bzojmdl0

    People are idiots. Then again, they also like Bieber, Kartrashians, Twilight, top 40 Radio Disney crap, 50 Shades and Paul Blart so I'm not surprised.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    rr165892 said:

    josevolution said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    and Bush's ratings are better than ever!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576.html?cmpid=sf#ixzz3bzojmdl0

    Great to bad he can't run for prez again oh yeah i forgot his brother is not to much difference just a bit taller ....
    Jeb is way better the His Brother.And quite a bit more moderate.As I've stated.He was my Gov for 8 years and did a damn good job.Credit where credit is due.
    Is he running really every time they ask him his not sure , I'm not running j might be running I could be running but still just send me campaign $$$$ ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    I remember seeing this a while back.

    http://youtu.be/6kB2LOmo8Ao
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