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an interesting article on the "liberal" media and the real numbers for live earth

stupidcorporatewhorestupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.alibi.com/index.php?story=19775&scn=news

I know it's from ad left wing rag in a secondary market, so do with it as you will but I thought this was food for thought.

It makes an interesting case for how "liberal" our media really is.
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  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    If the media is as liberal as everyone claims it is we would never have gotten into this stupid war and George Bush wouldn't be president. All of the media in this country is owned by what 4-5 conglomerations and I'm supposed to believe that they have a liberal slant. 9 out of 10 talk radio programs are conservative. I think the worst thing Bill Clinton did was sign the FCC agreement thus allowing this to happen. We need more balance if we want to have a strong democracy.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    It's Gore's fault..he went and ate the damn sea bass, and now we must all perish.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I don't get where liberal or conservative even come in on this article.

    The mainstream media only counted viewers on a fellow mainstream network (NBC) and ignored all of the other viewers. If anything it shows the egos of the mainstream broadcast networks.

    Why bring up political sides in this SCW?
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  • seagoat2seagoat2 Posts: 241
    I watched it on Sundance - cool little movies in between the music. here's an article I saved to my desktop.....discuss.....

    Billions tune into Live Earth concerts
    July 08, 2007 1:37 PM EDT
    LONDON, Jul 8, 2007 (UPI via COMTEX) -- An estimated 2 billion people turned on their radios, TVs, computers or went to one one of the worldwide venues for the Live Earth concerts.

    At London's Wembley Stadium Saturday, British DJ Chris Moyles revved up the crowd before launching into a set, The New York Times reported.

    "We're here to save the world," said Moyles at the start of the nine-hour show at Wembley Stadium. "Will you help?" he asked, to which the crowd responded "Yes."

    Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, who produced the environmental film "An Inconvenient Truth," inspired producer Kevin Wall to re-adapt the idea he used for the Live 8 concerts to global warming.

    Gore and Wall also requested the public commit to a seven-point pledge that includes demanding an international treaty to cut carbon emissions by 90 percent, working for energy efficiency at home and in the workplace, and reducing individual carbon pollution to become "carbon neutral."

    URL: http://www.upi.com
  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    binger wrote:
    We need more balance if we want to have a strong democracy.

    As Orwell turns in his grave...

    Yes, you're right! We need more BALANCE!! If only Noam Chomsky had his own TV show on cable news, then we could really hammer out these problems once and for all!!!

    LOL

    I love the term "balance" associated with our news programming. Balance it towards what political beliefs? Yours? Mine? What makes news balanced?
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  • stupidcorporatewhorestupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I love the term "balance" associated with our news programming. Balance it towards what political beliefs? Yours? Mine? What makes news balanced?

    god in heaven help me, I aggree with you

    there shouldn't be a balance or an imbalance

    just report the facts

    woodward and bernstien had no political agenda to repoting watergate they just reported the facts

    sigh...
  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    stupidcorporatewhore wrote:
    god in heaven help me, I aggree with you

    there shouldn't be a balance or an imbalance

    just report the facts

    woodward and bernstien had no political agenda to repoting watergate they just reported the facts

    sigh...

    Woodward and Bernstein had no agenda to hurt Nixon? Some say they did. The point is: it doesn't matter. If everyone from all political persuasions tries to get as much information about the other side as possible, the result is "balanced" because biases are then accounted for.

    If a liberal covers the Nixon watergate scandal and a conservative covers it also, the con might go easy on him but the lib won't. In the same way, if both a lib and a con cover Clinton's purgery, the lib will go easy and the con won't. This results in more accurate reporting.

    The key is: both perspectives need to work hard to find the facts, as you say. Currently, I think that's happening fairly well.
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  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Woodward and Bernstein had no agenda to hurt Nixon? Some say they did. The point is: it doesn't matter. If everyone from all political persuasions tries to get as much information about the other side as possible, the result is "balanced" because biases are then accounted for.

    If a liberal covers the Nixon watergate scandal and a conservative covers it also, the con might go easy on him but the lib won't. In the same way, if both a lib and a con cover Clinton's purgery, the lib will go easy and the con won't. This results in more accurate reporting.

    The key is: both perspectives need to work hard to find the facts, as you say. Currently, I think that's happening fairly well.

    If you think that it is "happening fairly well" then why do a majority of the American people still believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11?
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • HartydogHartydog Posts: 2,060
    binger wrote:
    If the media is as liberal as everyone claims it is we would never have gotten into this stupid war and George Bush wouldn't be president. All of the media in this country is owned by what 4-5 conglomerations and I'm supposed to believe that they have a liberal slant. 9 out of 10 talk radio programs are conservative. I think the worst thing Bill Clinton did was sign the FCC agreement thus allowing this to happen. We need more balance if we want to have a strong democracy.

    I saw this article before but the whole liberal media thing isn't a myth:

    http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/barro/bw/bw04_0614.pdf
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    binger wrote:
    If you think that it is "happening fairly well" then why do a majority of the American people still believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11?

    They choose to remain ignorant. That is their choice.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    Hartydog wrote:
    I saw this article before but the whole liberal media thing isn't a myth:

    http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/barro/bw/bw04_0614.pdf

    Think tanks? They base bias on Think Tanks. I'll say it again. If we have such a liberal media then why is Bush President and why are we in this mess?
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • HartydogHartydog Posts: 2,060
    binger wrote:
    Think tanks? They base bias on Think Tanks. I'll say it again. If we have such a liberal media then why is Bush President and why are we in this mess?

    Well there are all sorts of think tanks...liberal, conservative, middle of the road. And the media doesn't elect the president the people do.
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  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    Hartydog wrote:
    Well there are all sorts of think tanks...liberal, conservative, middle of the road. And the media doesn't elect the president the people do.

    The general public votes based on what information the media gives them.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    binger wrote:
    The general public votes based on what information the media gives them.

    Bush won the first election a lot due to Rove... he is a political mastermind. Bush won the second election due to Kerry is a moron and probably the worst possible candidate the dems could have put up. So if a democrat wins the next election the media will now be liberal? That is such a weak argument, and I use that term loosely because it's more of a fallacy than anything.
  • HuntingtonBeachNickHuntingtonBeachNick Posts: 80
    Live Earth for all the good it was trying to do was really really boring to watch. They did throw out some good info between bands and whatnot but wow boring.
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