anybody see W.?

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

almost makes you feel sorry for the poor dumb bastard. kinda goofy and rushed. the actors felt like they were doing impressions instead of acting (good impressions though).

but not terrible. not good either.

T-Case

yeah i saw it on saturday, I felt the same way in that it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't really that good. You really do feel bad for him in the movie though, he just wanted his pappy to be proud of him

the wolf

fuck him, and his pappy!

sponger

Fuck...I knew that's what he wanted ever since he landed on that aircraft carrier and said, "Mission Accomplished."

He wanted to be just like his daddy who flew carrer-based fighter planes during WWII. That whole fucking war was just so he could be a war president and be a hero just like his daddy. I've been saying this for years, and I guess this movie is my vindication. I haven't seen the movie yet.

DrHeidi41

Is it even a good movie? My fiance really wants to see it, but I hate Oliver Stone. I have seriously never seen a movie of his I really enjoyed. It has nothing to do with the subject matter; I just think he's a crappy film-maker.

sponger

DrHeidi41 wrote:

Is it even a good movie? My fiance really wants to see it, but I hate Oliver Stone. I have seriously never seen a movie of his I really enjoyed. It has nothing to do with the subject matter; I just think he's a crappy film-maker.

Even Wall Street? You didn't like Wall Street? Platoon? The Doors?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I feel soo bad for the guy.... :rolleyes:

Strangest Tribe

DrHeidi41 wrote:

Is it even a good movie? My fiance really wants to see it, but I hate Oliver Stone. I have seriously never seen a movie of his I really enjoyed. It has nothing to do with the subject matter; I just think he's a crappy film-maker.

Really?

The People vs Larry Flynt?

Natural Born Killers?

Jack_C_Gregory

Strangest Tribe wrote:

The People vs Larry Flynt?

That was a Milos Forman picture:)

Strangest Tribe

WeaponX655321 wrote:

That was a Milos Forman picture:)

yeah but Stone was the executive producer

T-Case

sponger wrote:

Fuck...I knew that's what he wanted ever since he landed on that aircraft carrier and said, "Mission Accomplished."

He wanted to be just like his daddy who flew carrer-based fighter planes during WWII. That whole fucking war was just so he could be a war president and be a hero just like his daddy. I've been saying this for years, and I guess this movie is my vindication. I haven't seen the movie yet.

Im talking about the george bush in the movie, not the real one

Wobbie

the wolf wrote:

fuck him, and his pappy!

+1

nothinghead

I saw the movie on Saturday. Regardless of how you feel about the President, you can't possible convince me that was a good film.

It has doesn't really have anything to say and it takes like two and a half not to say it.

It was plotless. I get it, Stone was trying to make it character driven, but he didn't even succeed it that. It was more like a highlight reel of things you've already heard about and know.

I didn't buy James Cromwell, a fantastic actor, as George Sr. for even a second. Thandie Newton, like the rest of the cast with the exception of Brolin, didn't seem to be so much acting as doing a shitty impersonation.

The soundtrack, god it was terrible. I get that it was supposed to be kind of lighthearted or folksy or whatever to juxtapose the seriousness of what was happening on screen. But that does not make a compelling character piece. Instead, it serves to belittle the people on screen and make the whole thing come off as jokey.

And as for the jokes, this Bush administration has been riddled with gaffes and blunders. If you're going to make a "controversial" film just in time for the election (coincidence? of course not), why not have it pack a real punch?

In short, it's a movie that could have been great that instead gets bogged down in parodying real life events that will likely be forgotten in ten years. So, I guess if you're looking for cheap laughs, though they're few and far between to be sure, then go see this film. If you're looking for a serious, character driven film that tries to shed valuable insight into the last 8 years of the Bush Administration--skip it. You know what will happen in all the scenes, you've already heard the arguments and you're just going to be frustrated--unless of course you're like millions of other liberals who tends to revel in your disgust for the right. (not to say it doesn't work both ways, but the other half of that equation isn't really the audience for this film.)


/end rant.

stupidcorporatewhore

sponger wrote:

Even Wall Street? You didn't like Wall Street? Platoon? The Doors?

ummm JFK?? anyone?

g under p

The best thing about the movie (to which I've not seen yet) is the theme song my the band......

Talking Heads....*Once In A Lifetime* David Byrne rocks I once waited on the guy after a show on the *Speaking In Tongues Tour* 84-85' I think.

Peace

pateljam

hartamh wrote:

The previews look funny

See... thats it I was hooked by the previews and I thought it would be a funny film. It wasn't... Stone fell flat on his face with this film, it is clearly one of worst films he has ever made.

Its a shame because he had so much material to draw from, it seemed to be a no brainer...

sponger

T-Case wrote:

Im talking about the george bush in the movie, not the real one

There's a difference?

Anon

A US television reporter who appears in a movie that pans President Bush is in a critical condition after being beaten and stabbed in her own home.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=650781

pateljam

g under p wrote:

The best thing about the movie (to which I've not seen yet) is the theme song my the band......

Talking Heads....*Once In A Lifetime* David Byrne rocks I once waited on the guy after a show on the *Speaking In Tongues Tour* 84-85' I think.

Peace

That song is not in the film. It's only in the trailers... sorry...
Unless they play it during the credits... which I didn't stay for.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

pateljam wrote:

That song is not in the film. It's only in the trailers... sorry...
Unless they play it during the credits... which I didn't stay for.

they play it at the end i think.

DriftingByTheStorm

MrSmith wrote:

almost makes you feel sorry for the poor dumb bastard.

Alex has been ranting and raving about this for days, saying that this is so obviously a whitewash and an attempt at making the liberals feel sorry for the evildoer.

What he hadn't said yet was WHY Stone would make such a 180 in direction.
Today, talking to a fabled Kennedy researcher on his show, Alex asked his guest (Robert Groden) why Oliver Stone (who Groden worked with extensively on the making of the film, JFK) would suddenly become such an apologist for the establishment (before W. he did World Trade Center).

Groden didn't have much to say, except that he was very proud of their work together on JFK, but Alex DID have some input.

He said he had been told by "a bunch of hollywood insiders" that the government was holding a bunch of drug charges over Stone's head as blackmail -- both plausible, and entirely consistent with what agencies like the CIA and FBI have been doing for decades in order to keep things hushed up.

[In fact, that is one of the most obvious reasons why an agency like the CIA would want to use the maffia to assassinate people, because those agencies never need worry about their ganster assassins talking for threat of prosecution.]

Very interesting.

I haven't had a chance to watch this yet, Charlie Rose interviewing Oliver Stone about W., but i can't wait to see what Stone does or doesn't have to say to Mr. Rose -- a multi-year Bilderberg atendee and gate keeper himself.

I do know that the last time Charlie Rose interviewed Oliver Stone, he was still very much advocating government subversion. He actually got in to a little fit of words with Rose in defense of his position.

Anywho.